Child identifies as a wolf ... WTF?

The $64000 question!

How do you tell the difference between a genuine trans woman and a man who is using the identity as an excuse?

The first few comments were transphobic.
Trans-woman are not men, that’s the whole point. Yes there have been cases of apparently trans-women committing rape etc, however I would imagine that they aren’t actually trans and instead using that ‘identity’ in order to gain easier access to women. A genuine trans-woman is no more likely to rape someone than another woman is, nor are they anymore interested in seeing someone’s bits than any other woman. Astonishing that this needs to be pointed out. Although, given the fact you can’t see past what genitalia someone has determining their character, probably not so astonishing.

I've heard that people spread rumours without evidence, like saying "I've heard" at the start of an alarmist comment.

There is a competition for girls who ride hobby horses around courses. And we’re not talking 6yos either. Even one girl howling at how unfair the competition or some such was!

The council doesn't formally acknowledge his Identity. A counsellor does. Why do people keep falling for all this??
We have very little detail on this - we don't know the age, whether he moves or behaves like an animal, there is no agreed definition in or out of school about species dysphoria.
This is a proxy argument for gender issues and anyone who swallows this whole needs to have a real long think about what is going on - in their heads.

There is a link though because people saying they are a different sex to what they were born as and people saying they are a different breed to what they were born are both scientifically impossible.

its ridiculous for a teenager to identify as a lion
it’s offensive for a white person to identify as a black person
it’s concerning for a 42 year old to identify as a 12 year old
it’s fine for a man to identify as a woman and he should be allowed to use all the women only spaces and the young girls and women must be ‘calm and kind’ about this because of course it’s completely fine. Even though it’s as scientifically impossible as the other things on the list, including identifying as animals, which is what this thread is about. You honestly can’t see the link? Concerning

quoted wrong person. Sorry

Why can’t we just encourage people to be happy in their own skin with who they are? Over a hundred years society favored the fat, it showed they were eating well. Skinny ones worked and barely subsisted. Then everyone wanted to be thin. Now everyone wants to be a group oppressed 50- 200 years ago? Everyone also wants to support people with mental illness so everyone is identifying as depressed and anxious it’s hard to tell the true suffering from the ones just sad and worry too much.

Sex is determined at conception, observed during pre-birth scans or at birth and gender is a social construct.

You're not being unreasonable with the wolf thing but you totally lost my vote with the men identifying as women comment, that's just ignorant.

I totally get identifying as a different gender to that you were assigned at birth, but a wolf? Nope. My brother in law is a dippy hippy who dresses as trees and whatnot to go to stonehenge. He says his first wife was a raven. Frickn dipsht!

Exactly what I would do. Surely it's the only thing that makes sense?

By the way, to those saying it's made up, there were two terms at the gig I was at yesterday wearing cat ears and a tail with normal clothes, mind you there were assorted spidermen, Princesses and members of paw patrol too, the difference I suppose was that the others were preschool aged!

@Portakalkedi

You hit the nail on the head, parents don't want to use the word no. Starts with the gentle parenting when what kids need are fair but firm boundaries. Having fun dressing up even as a teen is ok but parents need to be clear, no you are not a wolf/dog/cat/whatever you are just pretending and no you don't wear your play clothes to school!

'Gross' 'nasty' 'phobes' - you're the one calling people names. Can't you be kind?

Look, I understand that people don't want to believe that their fellow humans are into this shit, but it doesn't take much investigation to confirm that adults getting sexual kicks out of animal cosplay exist. Unfortunately.

The reality is, if someone identifies as a helium balloon, they will not float away.

This thread is putting me off Mumsnet. I didn’t realise how many gross people were on here looking for something to be nasty about. Agreed with @GiddyDuck.

This is using an unrelated story about a kid who dresses up as a wolf and being linked to Trans people which the ‘phobes’ are lapping up.

Gotta be honest, you’re the ones sexualising it all too? When I was younger I loved rabbits and I used to crinkle my nose like a rabbit cause I thought it was cool. Let’s all stay calm and kind and not get riled up by clickbait.

The idea probably came from one of teenage vampire movies/series

Or offer up a live one, set it loose on the playing field, and tell them to go fetch.

It would be good if you could reference the transphobia you are talking about.

However in a more general sense, men thinking they have the right to access women's single sex spaces - prisons, shelters, changing rooms - does impact women, yes. Astonishing that this needs to be pointed out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rdpdm4r4ro

I don’t get the whole kids being allowed to identify as animals, but the transphobia on this thread is appalling. Does it actually impact any of you if someone identifies as a different gender to the one they were born? Honestly they’re not asking you to donate your womb or anything, just live and let live!

Speak for yourself. All the kids in our extended family and friend circle were/are all hardworking, respectful and ambitious. Not all necessary academics but all have a strong work ethic.

It's a shame people like you write off a whole generation of kids like that. It must be difficult for them to hear/read that all the time.

I'm sure there are some, but nowhere near as many as the Daily Mail brigade will have us believe.