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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 16:36

@GiddyRobin What’s wrong with saying a month then?

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Autumnweddingguest · 27/09/2024 15:50

Boobygravy · 27/09/2024 04:26

Probably Arnica.
Arnica does work for inflammation.
Lots of people use it.

Yes, I think it was arnica.

nothingcomestonothing · 27/09/2024 15:39

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:39

@RedToothBrush NOPE!

I truly hope that you’re never in a similar situation as us at present, but if so I recommend certain homeopathy pills over Ibuprofen for inflammation for example.

It's literally water. How do you think it's doing anything for inflammation?

twomanyfrogsinabox · 27/09/2024 15:27

Its difficult to say anything if we don't know what your DDs problem was. It might be something that comes and goes and coincidentally it has been better while using the homeopathy alongside traditional treatment. It may be the traditional treatment has taken a while to kick in and in the meantime you started homeopathy so it looks like that was the cure. It may be something that eventually gets better by itself.

I believe in acupuncture, homeopathy I find very difficult to believe in because the 'medicine' has virtually no active ingredient, and the less the better apparently so plain water should be best of all.

GiddyRobin · 27/09/2024 15:19

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 15:17

@GiddyRobin You don’t need to *Suggest anything to me, I’ve done nothing else for the past month, endless researching, private Drs & hospital. I’m a parent and a damn good one at that. My Dd is almost better, just some inflammation left, which has almost gone due to the homeopathy, but thanks for the patronising advice.

A month? Oh well, there you go.

Good luck, anyway, OP. Hope your daughter's health stays well, and that's sincere.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 15:17

@GiddyRobin You don’t need to *Suggest anything to me, I’ve done nothing else for the past month, endless researching, private Drs & hospital. I’m a parent and a damn good one at that. My Dd is almost better, just some inflammation left, which has almost gone due to the homeopathy, but thanks for the patronising advice.

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pinkfleece · 27/09/2024 15:11

ImthatBoleyngirl · 27/09/2024 15:10

Sorry to derail the thread a little, but my Dad suffers from Parkinsons and needs round the clock care. He has Lewy Dementia and very limited mobility (sometimes he can walk/feed himself, sometimes not). How has AI cured PD? It's so painful watching him deteriorate every day, so any info would be wonderful!

It hasn't. @ImthatBoleyngirl is talking out of his/her backside.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 27/09/2024 15:10

harrumphh · 26/09/2024 22:30

Absolutely not, if anything I'm leaning more the other way. AI has already basically cured Parkinson's, it's incredible.

Sorry to derail the thread a little, but my Dad suffers from Parkinsons and needs round the clock care. He has Lewy Dementia and very limited mobility (sometimes he can walk/feed himself, sometimes not). How has AI cured PD? It's so painful watching him deteriorate every day, so any info would be wonderful!

GiddyRobin · 27/09/2024 14:40

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:37

@GiddyRobin Been to three separate ones, thanks, don’t tell my what to do with my daughter 👍

Then I'd suggest asking for referals, being pushy, and everything else we as parents need to do when their child is unwell in some way. Relying on a placebo will only blanket the problem.

But, your child, as you say.

MissEsmeWatson · 27/09/2024 14:39

Outofthere · 27/09/2024 12:12

All of Mumsnet: It’s water. It’s fake. It’s placebo effect.

OP: No it’s not.

May I offer a cheaper miracle cure? A wet paper towel works wonders in most UK primary schools. Can be used for any bump or scratch, across the forehead for headaches, back of the neck for sickness.

Not all of Mumsnet at all.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:39

@RedToothBrush NOPE!

I truly hope that you’re never in a similar situation as us at present, but if so I recommend certain homeopathy pills over Ibuprofen for inflammation for example.

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TheSquareMile · 27/09/2024 14:39

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:18

@Comedycook I use them too, always have done, always will. I was just commenting that I’ve tried something else that appears to be working in a better way for my Dd, how, I don’t know, but it is.

@Loveafridaynightchippy

What kind of treatment is it, OP and for a condition of what kind?

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:37

@GiddyRobin Been to three separate ones, thanks, don’t tell my what to do with my daughter 👍

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MissEsmeWatson · 27/09/2024 14:37

Shouting doesn't make you right, people!

GiddyRobin · 27/09/2024 14:35

RedToothBrush · 27/09/2024 14:31

PLACEBO EFFECT!

THATS WHY!

Came to say exactly the same thing.

When I've got a cold, I don't blitz my soups. I leave them chunky with broth. Why? Because my brain tells me it's more nutritional. This is, in fact, utter horseshit. I feel better while I'm eating it but it doesn't actually fix my cold. Nor does the soup. It's just soothing.

Take your child to a doctor, OP.

RedToothBrush · 27/09/2024 14:31

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:18

@Comedycook I use them too, always have done, always will. I was just commenting that I’ve tried something else that appears to be working in a better way for my Dd, how, I don’t know, but it is.

PLACEBO EFFECT!

THATS WHY!

Loveafridaynightchippy · 27/09/2024 14:18

@Comedycook I use them too, always have done, always will. I was just commenting that I’ve tried something else that appears to be working in a better way for my Dd, how, I don’t know, but it is.

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GnomeDePlume · 27/09/2024 14:16

@Thepeopleversuswork throughout this thread there has been repeated conflation of homeopathic, holistic and naturopathic therapies.

Homeopathy and holistic therapies do no actual harm. Holistic therapies can do a lot of good. The caveat is so long as they are used alongside conventional medicine.

So I wouldn't want to see them banned though I believe they should be regulated.

Naturopathic remedies on the other hand can be a menace. Herbal remedies sound harmless but they can be very dangerous with no true control of dosage of powerful chemicals.

I take shed loads of warfarin for a blood clotting disorder. If I were to start taking natural remedies either alongside or instead of my warfarin it could kill me either by causing clots or by causing uncontrollable bleeding.

ThreeTescoBags · 27/09/2024 14:05

Justice4Friend · 26/09/2024 22:30

Years ago my school friend had ear ache that wouldn't go away even with ear drops.

Her grandma told her to piss in a steel bowl, grandma warmed that piss up on the hob, when it cooled down, put the piss in my friend's ears, even the good one. Friend has never had ear ache again decades on.
Side effect - now known as Piss Ears.

🤣🤣🤣 piss ears!

I think if someone put hot piss in my ears I'd be reluctant to admit to any future earaches as well!

pinkfleece · 27/09/2024 14:00

Mablesyruo · 27/09/2024 13:18

We used to have an actual NHS homeopathic hospital in my city, and there is still the NHS centre for integrative care (former Glasgow Homeopathic hospital)…you’d be surprised that rational medical professionals do sometimes do use it!

I think you'll find that all the NHS homeopathic hospitals now do other things, they don't do actual homeopathy, including that one in Glasgow. There will always be doctors who are guided by their wallets, sadly, those are the ones who offer homeopathy privately.

yikesanotherbooboo · 27/09/2024 13:33

@Outofthere
Period pains too !

Thepeopleversuswork · 27/09/2024 13:23

@TempestTost

I think you are too gentle on conventional medicine. It's not just that it can seem cold and impersonal, it can be practiced this way, it can be damaging, doctors can ignore the actual outcomes and health goals of patients.

Thats certainly true. There’s much that is structurally problematic about the infrastructure of health. There are well documented problems with resource. The medical establishment is conservative, patrician and doctrinaire. And actually accessing conventional medicine is really soul destroyingly difficult.

But the thread of your argument is really problematic. It pushes people to believe that quackery like homeopathy is a solution because patients feel like they are being “heard”.

Its really not OK. Feeling that the medical establishment doesn’t hear them should not be an excuse for people who are at best naive and scientifically illiterate and worst manipulative to sell useless and potentially dangerous products to sick people.

I understand the shortcomings of conventional medicine but this is a dangerous dichotomy and it drives more people to seek out this sort of nonsense.

Why is homeopathy not illegal? As far as I can tell it’s not even regulated. I think it’s an absolute scandal tbh.

RhubarbAndCustardSweets · 27/09/2024 13:22

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Mablesyruo · 27/09/2024 13:18

Summerhillsquare · 26/09/2024 22:19

"Less traditional doctors" doing homeopathy - so not doctors then? Beware the grift OP, they are capitalising on the rationing and under funding of public services.

We used to have an actual NHS homeopathic hospital in my city, and there is still the NHS centre for integrative care (former Glasgow Homeopathic hospital)…you’d be surprised that rational medical professionals do sometimes do use it!

GiddyRobin · 27/09/2024 12:51

No. I like knowing that there's proper medical care out there for my children if and when they need it.

DS had a milk and soya allergy and reflux as a baby. Even when the milk allergy was under control, his reflux was so bad he was vomiting as he was feeding. It was fucking horrendous; his mouth was so inflamed from the acid and I can't imagine what his insides must have felt like.

The wife of one of DH's friends was into this homeopathy nonsense. Telling me I should be offering a two month old baby all sorts of "cleanses", sending me links to herbal treatments. Fuck that. He got put on liquid omeprazole and was a different child within a week.

Equally, I have coeliac disease and I've had these sorts telling me it'll all be cleared up with charcoal, apple cider vinegar, raw milk, and marshmallow root or whatever other ingredients. No. I have a lifelong disease only managed by not eating gluten. Which I found out about because the nice doctor shoved a tube down my throat and inspected my insides.