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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:21

If you read the link about the placebo effect you’ll see what I mean.

I’m not saying ‘you’re imagining it helps’. I’m saying that the homeopathic medicine itself has no effect but the placebo effect of taking the medication and believing it might help does have a very real, measurable impact. It’s more effective on some people than others and some conditions than others but it’s really amazing.

ReluctantSwimMum · 26/09/2024 23:21

Are you sure you're referring to homeopathy, OP? Water sugar pills?

Maybe you mean natural or herbal medicine? Some of such have active ingredients.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 26/09/2024 23:20

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:17

@Birdscratch But they actually are saying it’s working, these people try numerous different things, why would they believe that would sbd not the other things 🤷🏻‍♀️
All I know is when I’ve given my Dd one of the treatments, I do see results and fairly quickly. I’m a very skeptical person, never used it before and not one to fall for any bs, so I just don’t know what’s happening then

What's happening is you're falling for bullshit.

echt · 26/09/2024 23:18

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:13

@echt Not surprised why? I don’t have any evidence, just from what parents say has helped their children, can we all be wrong, I don’t know.
I’m not a stupid person, if I saw no benefits, I’d throw it in the bin

Because a belief in the efficacy of homeopathic medicines means the critical faculties aren't really working. There is zero evidence that it works, And yes, you can all be wrong.

You can be sure that any improvements are nothing to do with what your child is taking unless that natural medicine has a scientifically- tested chemical in it, like the digitalis in foxgloves or the salicin in in white willow bark, which is similar to aspirin.

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:17

@Birdscratch But they actually are saying it’s working, these people try numerous different things, why would they believe that would sbd not the other things 🤷🏻‍♀️
All I know is when I’ve given my Dd one of the treatments, I do see results and fairly quickly. I’m a very skeptical person, never used it before and not one to fall for any bs, so I just don’t know what’s happening then

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TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 26/09/2024 23:16

Homeopathy is a fantastic treatment… for dehydration. It’s just water.

ChoccieCornflake · 26/09/2024 23:15

Swelling and bruising very likely would go down on its own.

Autumnweddingguest · 26/09/2024 23:14

Summerhillsquare · 26/09/2024 22:19

"Less traditional doctors" doing homeopathy - so not doctors then? Beware the grift OP, they are capitalising on the rationing and under funding of public services.

I know some trad doctors who also practise homeopathy. I once had to take a teenage tourist to a doctor when he jammed his hand in a tube door and it bruised badly and swelled up. She prescribed him some homeopathic tablets which made me very suspicious of her at the time. But they brought the swelling and bruising down overnight. I learned to be a bit more open minded from that.

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:14

I had to look up those conditions. It’s perfect for that. The placebo effect is very real and very effective. Anything that causes no harm, is totally safe for DC and provides some relief must be welcomed by parents.

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:13

@echt Not surprised why? I don’t have any evidence, just from what parents say has helped their children, can we all be wrong, I don’t know.
I’m not a stupid person, if I saw no benefits, I’d throw it in the bin

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Viviennemary · 26/09/2024 23:12

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 22:27

The placebo effect is a powerful thing.

Exactly. That is all it is.

TheSquareMile · 26/09/2024 23:11

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:25

@nothingcomestonothing She had them and they didn’t help the problem the same way homeopathy seems to be. I know, I never even knew or bothered about it before, but ur really does seem to be working.
Definitely not discounting traditional ways and obviously realise the importance of antibiotics etc-however, there are other ways alongside traditional methods and other doctors who seem to know much more about the link between the gut and the brain for example. A lot of traditional doctors don’t seem that knowledgeable about many things these days in my experience (I’m not in the U.K..could be this, I don’t know)

@Loveafridaynightchippy

Which country do you live in, OP?

echt · 26/09/2024 23:10

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:08

If you see any group dealing with the horrors of Pans/pandas, you will see that it works, for whatever reason. I have no idea how or why

Why am I not surprised? Where's your evidence?

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2024 23:10

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

Homeopathy mimicks the credibility, cues and language of medicine with no evidence base
They have clinics white coats consultations treatments and allude to efficacy and evidence base. There is absolutely no evidence base for homeopathy. Nil.Nada
Placebo effect is powerful, your conscious and unconscious approval of the homeopathy is powerful. Recovery and healing process is falsely attributed to homeopathy
Youre experiencing a malaise and there are plenty charlatans who’ll have a well rehearsed script and pseudoscience faux medicine way to rinse you of your cash

Tomorrowisyesterday · 26/09/2024 23:09

There are forms of alternative medicine that are more effective than homeopathy (well, it wouldn't be hard)
I do rate things like acupuncture and reflexology, for example. Mostly for pain relief.

AhBiscuits · 26/09/2024 23:09

Homeopathy is complete bollocks. Alternative medicine is just products that haven't been proven to work. Products that have been proven to work are just called medicine.

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:08

If you see any group dealing with the horrors of Pans/pandas, you will see that it works, for whatever reason. I have no idea how or why

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/09/2024 23:06

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 22:47

It hasn’t cured it. As TheYearofSmallThings said it’s helping to identify possible treatments.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/ai-speeds-up-drug-design-for-parkinsons-ten-fold

And this article needs to be read in the understanding that researchers needs to puff up the value of their work to secure funding.

Delphiniumandlupins · 26/09/2024 23:05

harrumphh · 26/09/2024 22:30

Absolutely not, if anything I'm leaning more the other way. AI has already basically cured Parkinson's, it's incredible.

Ridiculous and untrue.

CherryHinton · 26/09/2024 23:04

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?
Medicine.

(Edited to add - the stuff that seems to work gets tested, and produced safely, and becomes part of established, prescribed, mainstream treatment)

Birdscratch · 26/09/2024 23:02

Homeopathy is never dangerous in itself. It’s water. The only risk is if you stop ‘conventional’ treatment that is essential because of it.

Naturopathy could be dangerous unless you know the precise contents of the herbal ‘medicine.’ (As well as if it leads to stopping needed ‘conventional’ treatment.) Some herbal medicines have been found to contain hidden ‘conventional’ drugs eg eczema treatments that contain hydrocortisone. There’s also the risk that of some herbs can clash with conventional medicines (like St John’s Wort and antidepressants) or in quantity cause kidney or liver problems. Unlike the ‘conventional’ medicines, there’s no guarantee that they’re subject to the same quality control or random testing to ensure the dosage is constant - a 500mg paracetamol tablet is going to have 500mg of paracetamol in it.

suburberphobe · 26/09/2024 23:02

OP,

MN is not into generally into alternative medicine. Just dismiss it as woo.
They don't even bother getting informed.

I had endometriosis and although I took the doctor's pills (stopped early) I know I was also helped with homeopathy, healing and acupuncture. It worked!

Got pregnant within 3 months.

Follow your own path in life. Your intuition is your guidance.

KnottedTwine · 26/09/2024 23:01

People who believe in homeopathy are either stupid, deluded, or both.