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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:11

Has anyone else had a change of opinion about things that they’ve not really questioned and always just accepted before, in the last few years?
It could be since a became a mum, but I’m wondering if it’s more.
My Dd has been very ill recently and I’ve gained much better help, advise from less traditional Drs-think medical Drs who focus on naturopathy too, homeopathy and so on, I never knew anything about homeopathy before my Dd got ill. The results I’ve seen are incredible and much more positive that traditional things like antibiotics, painkillers and so on.
I used to be a teacher and loved it, but I’ve found myself really questioning if this is the right system and the right way of doing things and am increasingly doubting traditional schooling. Even the way the majority of us work, the 9-5, the commutes, snatched weekends with loved ones, the yearly holiday.
Maybe I’m just becoming an old hippie! 😂
Does anyone else feel like this?

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iwfja · 27/09/2024 00:05

You aren't in Austria are you OP?
Total and utter pain in the arse here trying to find doctors who aren't peddling all this bullshit on the side. Quite often a husband and wife team will work together. Husband is a GP, wife runs some kind of woo practice on the side (often isn't medically qualified) and GP refers patients to wife for woo treatments. (Before anyone has a go at me about the man being the GP and the woman doing the woo stuff, that's the way it is most of the time here. Austria still needs to catch up as far as equality goes).
Now we have homeopathic dentists cropping up. What the fuck. No way in hell am I going to a homeopathic/hollistic dentist.
We've even got homeopathic vets. I have to go miles out of my way to visit a vet who actually treats animals with proper medicine (and also diagnoses them properly with proper blood tests and equipment such as ultrasound) rather than doing some kind of woo bullshite feeling their energy and then prescribing fucking water in a little bottle.
All of this shite should be banned. But it isn't and they get really pissed off with you if you say (politely, I'm always polite even though I have ranted here) that you prefer non-homeopathic treatments.

MissEsmeWatson · 27/09/2024 00:04

I've found homeopathy hugely helpful for my asthma, OP. Do what works for your daughter, let others think what they want.

MaterCogitaVera · 27/09/2024 00:03

kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:56

I know! Is crazy, isn’t it. The water remembering.
My neighbor, a posh woman, proudly told me she was a Qualified Homeopath, so I googled it assuming it was natural alternatives like St John’s Wort, arnica etc.
I saw that it was just water & now think she is a bonkers quack.

Yep. If water has a memory, people who use homeopathy must all be getting massive doses of poop and sewage and dead fish every time they take a dose. I’m surprised they aren’t all coming down with cholera.

kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:56

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:36

Thank you.

It's sounds silly at my age, but I've never really known what homeopathy is.

It's quite interesting, I'm off to Google more.

Not that I'll be using it any time soon.

I know! Is crazy, isn’t it. The water remembering.
My neighbor, a posh woman, proudly told me she was a Qualified Homeopath, so I googled it assuming it was natural alternatives like St John’s Wort, arnica etc.
I saw that it was just water & now think she is a bonkers quack.

ManhattanPopcorn · 26/09/2024 23:52

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To be looking so differently now at Drs, schools etc etc
JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:52

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:49

@JanglingJack I'm not sure it was, it might have been dramatic response or it might actually be a sad story.
Gallows humour is used often, but idk

Well what's said is said now.

Let's not analyse it. Well I'm not as I'm going to bed. Finally.

I did think it was just a really dry joke.

If not apologies.

pinkfleece · 26/09/2024 23:50

You know that homeopathic 'medicine' is chemically the same as water? The benefit is placebo, it's basically counselling.

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:49

@JanglingJack I'm not sure it was, it might have been dramatic response or it might actually be a sad story.
Gallows humour is used often, but idk

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:45

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:33

I saw that post, I feel there's some missing details, but decided to kep scrolling because i couldn't decide the "tone"

Edited

Oh, sorry, I thought it was a joke.

Either way it made me laugh. It's been a long night!

SophiaCohle · 26/09/2024 23:41

The benefits of alternative medicine are largely in the metaphorical laying on of hands. Spending an hour with someone who takes a full and wide-ranging history, really listens, and is therefore able to help you join the dots between the physical, psychological and environmental factors in your problems is therapeutic in itself even before any kind of treatment is contemplated.

This is the kind of healing art that very few NHS doctors have the time for anymore, even the good ones, and lots are not that good tbh.

However, most alternative treatments are either pointless (homeopathy, kinesiology, reiki, I'm looking at you) or are just things that feel nice (aromatherapy, reflexology etc). If they cheer you up and do no harm, go for it. But if you've got cancer or need a coronary bypass or are in danger of losing your sight or can't feel your legs, then you need a proper doctor, and I think if it comes to that, then you will probably find you think so too.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 26/09/2024 23:40

I no longer trust doctors, and I think hospitals are a dangerous place to be.

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:36

kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:31

Homeopathy is really a strange idea … please do a real google of it. It’s water that remembers substances that have been diluted many many many times. It’s water. Please don’t pursue this branch of alternatives.
It’s water … scam scam scam. Save your money. It should be illegal.

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Homeopathy is based on a series of ideas developed in the 1790s by a German doctor called Samuel Hahnemann.
Hahnemann’s thinking was based on the belief that a substance that causes certain symptoms can also help to remove those symptoms.
A second central belief is based around a process of dilution and shaking called succussion.
Practitioners believe that the more a substance is diluted in this way, the greater its power to treat symptoms.
Many homeopathic remedies consist of substances that have been diluted many times in water until there's none, or almost none, of the original substance left.
Practitioners of homeopathy claim that it can treat an extremely wide range of conditions, including physical conditions such as asthma and psychological conditions such as depression.

Thank you.

It's sounds silly at my age, but I've never really known what homeopathy is.

It's quite interesting, I'm off to Google more.

Not that I'll be using it any time soon.

Molly499 · 26/09/2024 23:34

Homeopathy is widely used in Europe. In France a lot of GP's are trained in this field, it is available on the NHS equivalent. I have seen great results as a preventative treatment and also in an acute situation. I don't understand why the UK is so against it.

Thistooshallpass24 · 26/09/2024 23:33

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

I saw that post, I feel there's some missing details, but decided to kep scrolling because i couldn't decide the "tone"

BarbaraHoward · 26/09/2024 23:33

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

Wtf.

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:32

@JanglingJack 😮

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Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 23:31

So…if I can see my Dd is a certain way and I give one of these pills and I see the change fairly quickly, a real, physical change..then we’re both imagining it?
I’ve given maybe Ibuprofen at times and not seen a huge effect, even though I’d expect to and would be waiting and wanting it.
Im not stupid or crazy, I can only say what I’ve seen and I can’t explain it at all. Many many other parents saying the same, trying a myriad of things, some working, many many others not, Why would we all be only receiving a placebo effect only with them.
I don’t know, maybe I am going crazy, but I’ve seen it

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kookoocachoo · 26/09/2024 23:31

Homeopathy is really a strange idea … please do a real google of it. It’s water that remembers substances that have been diluted many many many times. It’s water. Please don’t pursue this branch of alternatives.
It’s water … scam scam scam. Save your money. It should be illegal.

——-
Homeopathy is based on a series of ideas developed in the 1790s by a German doctor called Samuel Hahnemann.
Hahnemann’s thinking was based on the belief that a substance that causes certain symptoms can also help to remove those symptoms.
A second central belief is based around a process of dilution and shaking called succussion.
Practitioners believe that the more a substance is diluted in this way, the greater its power to treat symptoms.
Many homeopathic remedies consist of substances that have been diluted many times in water until there's none, or almost none, of the original substance left.
Practitioners of homeopathy claim that it can treat an extremely wide range of conditions, including physical conditions such as asthma and psychological conditions such as depression.

JanglingJack · 26/09/2024 23:30

AngelinaFibres · 26/09/2024 22:58

I worked for a headteacher who went down the homeopathy route. She died.

You gave me my first snort! Laughter wise. Thank you. You win.

bergamotorange · 26/09/2024 23:26

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

It's not dangerous in itself, because homeopathy basically does nothing.

But it's dangerous to turn to homeopathy instead of using proven medicine.

There's been extensive investigation of the effectiveness of homeopathy. There's no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition. www.nhs.uk/conditions/homeopathy/

WhappleBee · 26/09/2024 23:25

I have a medical condition and absolutely love my medication and some of the treatment I’ve received over the years- it’s helped massively. However, I used to be a firm believer in traditional medicine only but acupuncture, reiki and oils have really helped too! My mum has done long distance reiki on me without telling me and each time I’ve managed to get good sleep for the first time in days/weeks and I wake up to a text that she’s done it! So don’t believe it is a placebo, just don’t have a scientific explanation for it yet!

same for schooling. I’m a teacher and I do know a lot of great teachers but I’m no longer convinced that the school structure is fit to purpose and I don’t think I would necessarily choose the same path for myself or my future children.

BarbaraHoward · 26/09/2024 23:25

OP do you know what homeopathy is? I think sometimes people think it's like herbal medicine, but it isn't. Homeopathy claims that water has memory, and so dilutes whatever is to cure the disease at hand on huge quantities of water. It claims that the more you dilute it the stronger it becomes, which no one who's drunk squash could believe. There's zero evidence it works, and it's been tested a lot because if it did work it'd be cheap and easy and low on side effects.

AgileGreenSeal · 26/09/2024 23:24

I definitely do not trust doctors now the way I would have done in the past.

Moonshiners · 26/09/2024 23:23

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

OP there have been 100s of clinical trials proving homeopathy is a load of bollocks.
Herbal medicine can work but not homeopathic remedies.
Acupuncture has been clinically proven for many things but not homeopathy.
It a purely placebo effect. The placebo effect can be very strong and beneficial but it's nothing to do with the sugar pill.

titchy · 26/09/2024 23:21

Loveafridaynightchippy · 26/09/2024 22:51

Why is homeopathy dangerous?

Have you actually tried it? Definitely not placebo for my Dd at the moment, I can see the effects, may depend on what it’s treating, I have no idea
Dd treated with all the usual traditional medicines too, I just thought it was interesting

If she's being treated with traditional medicines as well as homeopathy why are you attributing her improvements to the homeopathy? Hint - stop the homeopathy, continue with the traditional. Improvements will remain and you'll be ££ better off!