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School bus driver refused to drop my daughter home

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Theherringbones · 26/09/2024 21:09

My year 9 daughter gets the school bus service home from school everyday. Its a private service for her school only and It’s about a 50 minute journey.

Tonight there is an unusual amount of traffic on the roads. The driver refused to drop my daughter at her (home) stop as it would take him too long to get there. He said he would drop her somewhere 15 minutes away and she would have to have someone pick her up. She was in tears in the phone to me. The usual 50 minute trip took him about 80 minutes.

The bus stop she was dropped at is a clear run to our home as it’s the back roads and there was no traffic on them. I know that it would have taken him an extra 15 minutes to drop her home, but it is his job!

I was stuck in the middle of the traffic in the opposite direction, trying to collect my other child and had to make all sorts of crazy arrangements with friends to get to her. Luckily I made it just in time.

I had words with him and he was completely rude, ignorant, aggressive and arrogant about it. He refused to give me his name and said it would have take him too long to take her home (it would have been an extra time for him) and there wasn’t another option.

How can a private bus service that is the only reason she can attend this school, refuse to drop her home? Am I being unreasonable or should he have dropped her home, no matter what?!

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Sartre · 27/09/2024 12:08

YANBU. I’m concerned about the driver’s lack of responsibility for the children in his care tbh. The fact he thought it was acceptable to leave 13 year olds stranded so far away from home in the dark, in an area where they can’t safely walk home anyway is quite worrying. Complain to both the school and bus company.

GoBackToTheStart · 27/09/2024 12:06

I didn't dig, Google linked. More likely OP has distorted the information to avoid being identified and it is the same thing.

You think it's more likely that Op has entirely changed every detail of the situation other than "traffic", "bus", and "daughter" so that she can post it on MN (for what, drama?), than there being two instances of drivers behaving poorly due to traffic this week?

But regardless, there are always too sides, and a senior school child needs to be able to navigate situations without crying.

A child, senior school or not, should not be put in the position Op's DD was, particularly not when they are vulnerable.

Yes, everything is a learning moment, but being so dismissive of a likely autistic child's reaction to something stressful she hasn't experienced before, is deeply unpleasant.

Bayern · 27/09/2024 12:02

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 11:55

I didn't dig, Google linked. More likely OP has distorted the information to avoid being identified and it is the same thing.

But regardless, there are always too sides, and a senior school child needs to be able to navigate situations without crying.

Or.... That is not the OP....

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 11:55

GoBackToTheStart · 27/09/2024 11:50

Did you bother to read the thread before digging through google for something you think is a "gotcha"?

I didn't dig, Google linked. More likely OP has distorted the information to avoid being identified and it is the same thing.

But regardless, there are always too sides, and a senior school child needs to be able to navigate situations without crying.

GoBackToTheStart · 27/09/2024 11:50

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 10:18

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic/

Nothing is clear cut, the article sounds awful but the comments are different. 5 mins walk for senior school children isn't really an issue .

This might not be you but the circumstances are no doubt similar. Year 9 should be able to walk a short distance

Did you bother to read the thread before digging through google for something you think is a "gotcha"?

RanchRat · 27/09/2024 11:33

If someone left my kid far from home by the side of the road in the dark I would fucking hunt him down.

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 11:28

noworklifebalance · 27/09/2024 11:05

I thought the OP spoke to him via her daughter’s phone, not in-person, and the daughter was left at the bus stop with the assumption that she would be safe because other children were getting off there, too.

OP has said that she didn't speak to the driver on the phone. So it must have been in person i.e she got to the bus stop before the bus drove away.

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 11:27

ThisPresetIsSelected · 27/09/2024 11:14

We do not know that he was going to abandon them. That's something posters have made up. We actually do know that he didn't just drop them off and drive away because OP was able to go and talk to him. It's equally possible that he would wait until they were picked up or until a replacement bus/driver/taxi could be provided.

Right, so instead of driving the extra 15 mins to do the contracted trip to her home stop, you think he was intending to kick back and stop still at the unscheduled stop for an unpredictable length of time until everyone could make alternative arrangements in heavy traffic?

Yes quite possible, if the issue was related to driving hours (and the fact that the traffic conditions would mean a normal 15 minutes drive would take much longer than that). Bus drivers normally are in contact with their depot. He would have likely had good information about the state of the roads and times to travel between places.

ThisPresetIsSelected · 27/09/2024 11:14

We do not know that he was going to abandon them. That's something posters have made up. We actually do know that he didn't just drop them off and drive away because OP was able to go and talk to him. It's equally possible that he would wait until they were picked up or until a replacement bus/driver/taxi could be provided.

Right, so instead of driving the extra 15 mins to do the contracted trip to her home stop, you think he was intending to kick back and stop still at the unscheduled stop for an unpredictable length of time until everyone could make alternative arrangements in heavy traffic?

noworklifebalance · 27/09/2024 11:05

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 10:16

We do not know that he was going to abandon them. That's something posters have made up. We actually do know that he didn't just drop them off and drive away because OP was able to go and talk to him. It's equally possible that he would wait until they were picked up or until a replacement bus/driver/taxi could be provided. That's clearly something OP needs to ascertain when she calls the bus company - what should happen in this situation.

Things happen that stop buses progressing as planned, all the time (round us at the moment, it's flooding and yes, we have school children left at places other than their usual stop). There should be a contingency plan in place. Maybe this is the contingency plan (ask children to call parents, if they cannot be picked up proceed to Plan B). Personally I'd find that a perfectly acceptable contingency plan.

What we do know is that OP's DD was safe. She was not "dumped" or "abandoned" anywhere. She was collected by a parent. I absolutely agree OP should follow up and work out what happened and what the plan is if the bus can't get to the assigned stop. But based on what she's posted, we do not know the driver did anything wrong.

I thought the OP spoke to him via her daughter’s phone, not in-person, and the daughter was left at the bus stop with the assumption that she would be safe because other children were getting off there, too.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/09/2024 10:54

iwfja · 27/09/2024 09:34

So many posts on here saying "she had her phone on her", i.e. it's not a problem.
Interestingly on the threads where schools ban children bringing phones into school at all (rather than banning them from class, collecting them in etc) you get endless posters bashing the OP and saying the child doesn't need a phone for the journey to and from home. Yes, they do, for incidents like this and no, there aren't phone boxes all over the place like when I was at school in the 90s.

So totally true as well.

That there are no phone boxes is something people are completely blind to.

Inslopia · 27/09/2024 10:53

I’m pretty sure he actually hauls the bus himself, like a heroic wee pony. And he pays the parents, not the other way around, while the children get out little riding crops and make him go faster while taunting him with their tiny voices.

Brilliant 😆😆😆

Fluffyelephant · 27/09/2024 10:50

LilBowWow · 27/09/2024 08:56

What if the driver was late for his volunteer shift at the orphanage? He probably only drives the bus out of the goodness of his heart.

This post sums up Mumsnet 😂

Stompythedinosaur · 27/09/2024 10:42

I think it's obviously unreasonable to have left her, and I hope you get some answers when you raise it.

artictern · 27/09/2024 10:36

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 10:18

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic/

Nothing is clear cut, the article sounds awful but the comments are different. 5 mins walk for senior school children isn't really an issue .

This might not be you but the circumstances are no doubt similar. Year 9 should be able to walk a short distance

This is clearly not the same scenario. And I’m not sure the comments section are exactly a damning indictment of that situation. Most sound like they’re written by troglodytes.

iwfja · 27/09/2024 10:34

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 10:18

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic/

Nothing is clear cut, the article sounds awful but the comments are different. 5 mins walk for senior school children isn't really an issue .

This might not be you but the circumstances are no doubt similar. Year 9 should be able to walk a short distance

The OP's daughter was dropped off at a stop 15 minutes drive away from where she was supposed to be dropped off.
That is not a 5 minute walk

LittleBearPad · 27/09/2024 10:26

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 10:18

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic/

Nothing is clear cut, the article sounds awful but the comments are different. 5 mins walk for senior school children isn't really an issue .

This might not be you but the circumstances are no doubt similar. Year 9 should be able to walk a short distance

It’s clearly not the same story as the Romsey children were on their way to school and it wasn’t 7pm in the evening.

OP’s child wasn’t left in a town centre either but on a country road.

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 10:21

Coruscations · 27/09/2024 10:08

In trying to make OP's concerns sound unreasonable, you've artistically left out the basic fact the bus stop in question was 15 minutes' drive away from the stop at which the driver was paid to drop the child off. The driver effectively announced he wasn't going to fulfil his contract and it was up to other people to sort it out. How is that OK?

Suppose you paid a taxi to take you to a specific destination and, half way through the journey, he told you he was going to drop you 5 miles away, he wasn't going to refund you, but it was OK because you could phone a relative who might or might not be available to collect you and there might be other people around - how happy would you be?

I wasn't talking about OP's concerns. I was talking about posters who were unable to read the OP and were making things up, in exactly the same way that you were. Everything I said has been actually posted on this thread by other people.

artictern · 27/09/2024 10:20

LilBowWow · 27/09/2024 08:56

What if the driver was late for his volunteer shift at the orphanage? He probably only drives the bus out of the goodness of his heart.

I’m pretty sure he actually hauls the bus himself, like a heroic wee pony. And he pays the parents, not the other way around, while the children get out little riding crops and make him go faster while taunting him with their tiny voices.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 27/09/2024 10:18

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic/

Nothing is clear cut, the article sounds awful but the comments are different. 5 mins walk for senior school children isn't really an issue .

This might not be you but the circumstances are no doubt similar. Year 9 should be able to walk a short distance

School bus driver abandoned pupils in middle of road due to heavy traffic

The mum of a Romsey School pupil is calling for a bus driver to be sacked after children were left on the side of a road due to traffic.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24609113.romsey-school-bus-driver-abandoned-pupils-due-traffic

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 10:16

SoupDragon · 27/09/2024 09:58

The bus driver didn't know the OP would be able to collect her.
No buses went to her home from that bus stop.
It is the bus driver's job to drive the children to the designated bus stops, not to just abandon them somewhere.

We do not know that he was going to abandon them. That's something posters have made up. We actually do know that he didn't just drop them off and drive away because OP was able to go and talk to him. It's equally possible that he would wait until they were picked up or until a replacement bus/driver/taxi could be provided. That's clearly something OP needs to ascertain when she calls the bus company - what should happen in this situation.

Things happen that stop buses progressing as planned, all the time (round us at the moment, it's flooding and yes, we have school children left at places other than their usual stop). There should be a contingency plan in place. Maybe this is the contingency plan (ask children to call parents, if they cannot be picked up proceed to Plan B). Personally I'd find that a perfectly acceptable contingency plan.

What we do know is that OP's DD was safe. She was not "dumped" or "abandoned" anywhere. She was collected by a parent. I absolutely agree OP should follow up and work out what happened and what the plan is if the bus can't get to the assigned stop. But based on what she's posted, we do not know the driver did anything wrong.

LittleBearPad · 27/09/2024 10:10

The desperation to make this ok is extraordinary.

It wasn’t ok

I imagine he’ll be sacked. If he isn’t he’ll be on a written warning and the school will likely require that he is not assigned to any of their routes.

Coruscations · 27/09/2024 10:08

redskydarknight · 27/09/2024 09:45

It works both ways though.

There have equally been an awful lot of posters who have turned this into the bus driver abandoning a 9 year old on their own in a random place miles away from anywhere and expecting them to walk 2 hours home in the dark.

Not a 13 year old dropped off at a normal bus stop with lots of other children where mum was there to collect.

In trying to make OP's concerns sound unreasonable, you've artistically left out the basic fact the bus stop in question was 15 minutes' drive away from the stop at which the driver was paid to drop the child off. The driver effectively announced he wasn't going to fulfil his contract and it was up to other people to sort it out. How is that OK?

Suppose you paid a taxi to take you to a specific destination and, half way through the journey, he told you he was going to drop you 5 miles away, he wasn't going to refund you, but it was OK because you could phone a relative who might or might not be available to collect you and there might be other people around - how happy would you be?

lifebyfaith · 27/09/2024 10:03

What if op didn't have a car? What if the child was attacked on route home? The situation beggars belief. I would be livid and make a strong complaint.