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Aibu to just want a home for me and my dc!?

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chubbycake · 26/09/2024 20:52

Looking for a rental property for me (38 year old woman) and two dc (3 and 6) I work full time self employed and we get a UC top up. Total income £32k. We come from rental properties with no black marks.

We are leaving because my soon to be ex husband is an abusive horrible man.

NO ONE will rent to us in our area. They say I have to earn at least 30x the annual rent (which would be on average 39k) They all make excuses to avoid being discriminatory but one of the lettings agents claimed a property was not suitable for children as it had stairs… 😩

Private landlords are pretty much non existent.

I’m really struggling. What do single parents do? I have offered a guarantor and I have money ready for a deposit too!

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Boomer55 · 16/10/2024 16:54

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 27/09/2024 09:45

@chubbycake would rather not say the specific area but its a city and the average is £1300 a month. wow that is high rent! I only charge 460 for 2 beds with double glazing, central heating, new kitchen and garden!! scotland!

My area is approx £2800 pm for a basic 2 bed flat. Areas vary tremendously.

Cryingatthegym · 16/10/2024 16:45

Hey, sorry you're having such a tough time. Is there anyone who could act as a guarantor for you? As that may make landlords more willing to rent to you. That's what I've ended up doing, although it doesn't solve the problem of extortionate private rents.

Hang in there, sorry it's so shit.

Orangesandlemons77 · 16/10/2024 12:40

chubbycake · 10/10/2024 21:07

Hi, Just thought I’d come back and update this thread because we are getting absolutely nowhere and I’m feeling very disheartened.
No one will rent to me, and the rents I am finding are going to be only just affordable. I have an appointment to view one with a private landlord on Saturday (my first viewing i’ve been able to secure!) but its expensive and would leave me about £200 a month to live on after all outgoings are considered.
I’m honestly considering staying with my husband until we can get a social housing property.

I'm sorry to hear this. Would a refuse be of use, if you went there surely you might qualify for some temporary accommodation? maybe contact somewhere like Woman's aid. Kind thoughts

chubbycake · 10/10/2024 21:07

Hi, Just thought I’d come back and update this thread because we are getting absolutely nowhere and I’m feeling very disheartened.
No one will rent to me, and the rents I am finding are going to be only just affordable. I have an appointment to view one with a private landlord on Saturday (my first viewing i’ve been able to secure!) but its expensive and would leave me about £200 a month to live on after all outgoings are considered.
I’m honestly considering staying with my husband until we can get a social housing property.

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LondonOx · 05/10/2024 14:54

chubbycake · 27/09/2024 14:11

Yikes. My guarantor would be my parents, but they are retired. Would they not be suitable in that case?

Sorry! Didn’t see this until now. They can still be your guarantor if retired (particularly if they own their own home) but they’d still need to meet the thresholds with a combination of savings/pension income which is a big ask given the multiples. Agents also vary as to whether they’ll accept multiple guarantors per tenant, or need it to be a single one.Guarantors can can also qualify if they have significant savings.

chubbycake · 27/09/2024 16:46

Cryingatthegym · 27/09/2024 16:43

Well done @chubbycake 👏fingers crossed for a positive outcome for you.

I briefly got my hopes up today when I saw I was in position 1 for a council house... but quickly dropped to position 2.

Ah well, we keep going.

You never know tho! You might still get it. My sister was number 8 and was offered a property.

Good luck.

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Cryingatthegym · 27/09/2024 16:43

Well done @chubbycake 👏fingers crossed for a positive outcome for you.

I briefly got my hopes up today when I saw I was in position 1 for a council house... but quickly dropped to position 2.

Ah well, we keep going.

chubbycake · 27/09/2024 16:22

Update : I have spoken to womens aid and also a local DV charity who have sign posted me to a council housing rep. I have left them a voicemail and sent an email explaining my predicament. Hopefully something will come from this.

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Fluffyhoglets · 27/09/2024 15:03

GoodEveningMiss · 27/09/2024 14:43

I think a guarantor must be in full time employment

If they have the financial means to pay rent that might also be accepted.

OP please speak to housing. You need a homeless assessment and you need to disclose and be ID'd as a victim of domestic abuse. But stress you cannot stay there. Get a letter from your brother in law if necessary. You need them to find you homeless and give you extra priority on your housing application ASAP. Then you.might get some success if you're only 100 down the list with no priority at all.

If you are wanting help with finding a private rent they do offer bond schemes and know LLS who will accept people who want to rent and will accept the council bond.

GoodEveningMiss · 27/09/2024 14:43

I think a guarantor must be in full time employment

chubbycake · 27/09/2024 14:11

LondonOx · 27/09/2024 12:25

Having worked in tenant vetting, the industry standard maximum for rent is that you need to have a gross annual income of 30x monthly rent. The only way out of that is a guarantor (usually they need to earn 36->42x the monthly rent) or paying upfront. If you don’t meet these criteria the landlord generally won’t be eligible for rent protection insurance on your tenancy so they are exposing themselves to a lot more risk.

(not defending the situation just giving additional context for why you’re coming up against this limit)

Yikes. My guarantor would be my parents, but they are retired. Would they not be suitable in that case?

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Cattery · 27/09/2024 13:19

@DriedFlowersLiveForever I didn’t jump on anyone. I was wondering why millions of people were on lists waiting to be upset about being offered a secure home for life. You’ve trotted out the old council house/estate clichè which is misinformed and outdated

DriedFlowersLiveForever · 27/09/2024 13:14

Cattery · 27/09/2024 10:18

@Cryingatthegym How is it “upsetting to think about ending up in a council house” when millions would love the chance and are currently on neverending waiting lists?

I can easily understand why it could be upsetting to have to move into council housing.
I currently live in a relatively nice three bedroom home of my choosing in an area that I like.
If I was to split with my husband and I had to move into the council housing my area has to offer I would be devastated. Plenty of regular antisocial behaviour, unkempt houses that are not looked after, huge drink/drug problems, teens out in big groups until all hours of the night, regular visits from the police with sirens blaring at all times of the night....I wouldn't choose to live there, I don't think many people would!
I think social housing is made out to be some kind of utopia on mn, a few people have struck lucky and got a quaint little home in a nice village or a huge flat in an expensive city centre but most social housing is on sprawling estates with massive problems with antisocial behaviour and drug issues.
I don't think it is fair to jump on someone for being upset with what potentially will be a big lifestyle change.

LondonOx · 27/09/2024 12:25

Having worked in tenant vetting, the industry standard maximum for rent is that you need to have a gross annual income of 30x monthly rent. The only way out of that is a guarantor (usually they need to earn 36->42x the monthly rent) or paying upfront. If you don’t meet these criteria the landlord generally won’t be eligible for rent protection insurance on your tenancy so they are exposing themselves to a lot more risk.

(not defending the situation just giving additional context for why you’re coming up against this limit)

Scleverley84 · 27/09/2024 12:22

Have a look on Open Rent, its a site with Private landlords, Hope all works out for you c

GoodEveningMiss · 27/09/2024 11:32

Women's aid can find you a hostel place

It may be further away though. But that's a roof at least

MistressoftheDarkSide · 27/09/2024 11:19

Some things that people don't know about the way councils deal with people seeking help due to imminent homelessness is that part of the process is demanding contact details for relatives so they can ask them to house you. Given that for many people asking for help from the authorities is a last resort when all other options have been exhausted, I found this most unhelpful.

Fluffyhoglets · 27/09/2024 11:12

And as you have a housing application in already that waiting time will also help.

Fluffyhoglets · 27/09/2024 11:11

Council homelessness service/housing options and make an application for social housing.
You're in priority need and if you have the means to private rent if they help you find somewhere.
You should also end up in a higher need band if you are homeless and that will really help you get social housing too.
Bid on housing association properties as well as the rents are usually a bit higher so less people bid on them.

Cattery · 27/09/2024 11:02

@Cryingatthegym Yes there should be more social housing. The private rents are ridiculous because landlords are exploiting the housing shortage. Millions of people are bidding for secure tenancies every month. It’s very sad x

Cryingatthegym · 27/09/2024 10:44

Cattery · 27/09/2024 10:18

@Cryingatthegym How is it “upsetting to think about ending up in a council house” when millions would love the chance and are currently on neverending waiting lists?

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as insensitive or judgemental. I meant the worry and upheaval of moving to a different, unknown and unchosen by me area, and the drastic change in living standards that have suddenly been thrust upon me. Of course social housing is a wonderful thing and I'd be lucky to be offered a property.

Orangesandlemons77 · 27/09/2024 10:25

chubbycake · 26/09/2024 21:35

I have tried, there are literally none!

Have you tried sites like Nextdoor? I have seen sometimes, people making a personal connection with someone on there who has a house / flat to rent..

Threelittleduck · 27/09/2024 10:20

Different situation but we were made homeless because our landlord wanted to sell. We couldn't afford private rent, with the conditions they insisted on.
Had to go HA route. They dragged their heels helping until I started phoning every day to ask if any of our bids had been successful. We also couldn't do hostels or B&B due to having two children with additional needs.
Two weeks before we got kicked out we were successful on binding for a house.
I know you aren't keen to go down that route but it may at least give you somewhere to live while you look for something else.
Also as your partner is abusive I am sure you will be a higher priority.
Other than that try Facebook and ask friends or family if they know of possible properties.

Cattery · 27/09/2024 10:18

@Cryingatthegym How is it “upsetting to think about ending up in a council house” when millions would love the chance and are currently on neverending waiting lists?

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 27/09/2024 10:13

@Cryingatthegym your low rent is more mind blowing to me than OP's! £1300 is pretty average around here too. It's grim. I have never believed in overcharging the rents. why make it difficult for the tenant to save for their own flat. I charge around the same as the councils and my flats are in better condition with any repairs required being done within 24-48 hours. i also do not take deposits. my tenants tend to stay for a good long while. people actually want a flat rental from me rather than anyone else.