To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

Lots of me are damaging the crap out of themselves with roids etc tho

People can only buy what's available to buy unless they make their own clothes. Therefore they're buying what's in 'fashion'.

Women are pressured to look youthful, various creams are advertised that are said to help with this and women buy them.

Women are socialised to wear makeup and to shave body hair.

Women are pressured to look thin and many go on diets.

You can deny all you want that no woman in Britain feels this pressure and I'll show you how much money they hand over to achieve it.

Women have been practicing body modification for as long as there have been women. Women rotted their faces with lead powder in the tudor times and fainted from corsets in the 1800's. We should hardly be surprised that people risk their health for their looks now too. Very sad all round.

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I thought western men hate Brazilian buts , but prefer slim, tall, blonde women with some boobs but not bums - blimey

I think that the first reaction should not be to blame "society" and the expectations it puts upon us, but to blame the stupidity and shallowness of the women themselves who go along with it. She knew she had five kids to raise and still chose to take the risk for the sake of a bulbous backside. It's on her really.

I’m not the poster you are addressing but I live in an average standard British town. When I look around me most women have different styles. I don’t believe women are all lemmings who buy, wear and do things because they are told to like robots. People might get inspired to do things from others, but because they like it rather than thinking they HAVE TO because society says so.

Some unfortunately aspire to look like clowns and have the fake lips etc, but it’s always down to personal choice. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

Probably explains why I’m single then… 😒

As the story unfolds I imagine info will come out about him influencing her over a long period of time and essentially grooming her into more and more expensive procedures.

If that's a picture of the actual person who would look at it and think here's the kind of person. I want injecting large quantities of foreign matters into my body?

It beggers belief

Absolute freak.

Unfortunately we live in a society infused with societal pressure. We're socialised to behave in a certain way according to sex, we buy clothes that are available due to fashion, we copy looks that we see around us, we shave because it's the norm.

I find it difficult to believe that you don't conform in anyway to British culture.

Botox is not completely safe, there is still a risk.

It was probably absolutely fine. Nevertheless, it was clearly an insecurity of hers and she could have changed it without putting her life at severe risk. That's the beauty of some exercises, you can change your body if you want to, but people want quick fixes unfortunately.

@user47 who on earth would trust anyone who looks like that to work on them?! He’s a mess.

Saw photos of his ‘studio’ too - a typical home set up with a a battered sign on the back gate.

The woman who died looks like she’s changed her facial appearance a lot in the last couple of years since she started working in aesthetics - a very dangerous slippery slope

I’ve seen 16 year old with lip fillers - they look awful but think they look amazing 😩

I was thinking the same thing.

Good grief. Why on earth would she go to him?!

Don't. It is in poor taste to start a discussion like that now.

Maybe i will shave, maybe i won't. Why do you shave ? Is it because you don't like the hairs or is is because a man may let his gaze fall upon you or because a magazine told you too? I hope it is because you don't like them.

Why would anyone have a procedure from this work of art, is beyond me!

It is so sad women feel the need to modify their bodies. There are many things "wrong" with mine, including a small flat bum, but who cares? I'm healthy and alive, that is all that actually matters.

It hasn't seemed to affect my long happy marriage, my friendships or my career 🤷

I wonder whether you will feel the same when it’s your chin that’s hairy. I held out for ages, but am now shaving weekly as the facial hair is somewhat embarrassing.

So is Mary Beard. She had to defend her natural state though.
One can always find exceptions.

But even on super intellectual super feminist MN, I never see threads saying " I really admire Mary Beard". What I see mostly are threads saying " I really admire Abby Clancey or Kate Middleton". It wasn't always this way.

Mine fell off after a period of ill health and inactivity. Never thought I’d miss it 🤣