To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

I feel nothing but compassion for beautiful young women who are putting these poisons into their faces to conform to beauty standards.

Every year there's a different body part girls are meant to be working on; bum, breasts, the thigh gap...these industries thrive on women's insecurities. They're bombarded with messages about how they need to change in order to be worthy.

It's very easy to dismiss women who are doing what we're all doing in one way or another.

@poppyzbrite4 I'm with you 100%. Societal pressure and influence often operates on a level we aren't always conscious of.

Some people seem totally idiotic - but they shouldn't be exploited or allowed to carry out these ridiculous procedures.

Some people are significantly more vulnerable or living in a delusion and really don't fully appreciate what they're doing. Look at the state of Katie Price. Or that grotesque cat woman. These industries should not be allowed to get away with it. These people are clearly being exploited! Yes and maybe alot of them are not the full ticket. Even more reason to protect them.

No easy answers though sadly. We can't shut down Tik Tok and all the other influences we have now.

You weren't giving an example you were talking about yourself as though nothing I said was true because you didn't do it.

Can you answer the question since you're so adamant?

How come these industries which are specifically aimed at women, are so lucrative?

Even if the procedure had been a success, what an example to set five young girls. This should be seen as a mental illness or extreme folly, to want to do this - someone like this needs help and/or stern words. And I also wonder about the partner in all this - if there are men who encourage their partners to do these things, they should be ashamed.

Actually just noticed the page has been taken down,it was there a couple of hours ago

All this society Vs individual choice. It's both, isn't it.

Clearly this current trend is the product of society and in particular, social media.

But at the same time, as an individual she made a choice which was foolish and didn't prioritise her children. The overwhelming majority of women have no difficulty whatsoever in resisting the "pressure" to spend thousands on risky and unnecessary cosmetic procedures - and I suspect for the most part that's because they have better sense.

It's a tragedy for that poor woman and most especially her children. And in our own way, I'm sure each of us is a fool. Being foolish shouldn't be a death sentence. Better safeguards / regulation should exist to protect people from this particular unwise decision, in my opinion.

Can only respond with insults? Clearly, I was giving an example!!!

I am one of many, many women who don't buy into this shit. We exist. Feel free to stick with the boring, cliched stereotypes. I guess you're one of them.

Carry on, I cba with you.

It’s so sad. I’m angry that the supposed qualified person who did this still hasn’t removed the before and after of this dead woman from their Facebook page

Some of these posts are pretty cruel and in poor taste tbh. @Applesonthelawn

I get irate seeing people who are so plastic and looks obsessed myself. But the lady died, and has kids who don't ever need to hear half of this cruel criticism.

As with many things, the actual level of risk is not clearly understood. Some people believe these beauty practitioners are more capable and all knowing than they are. She was naive and ill informed.

The industry is exploiting people terribly. Look at all these celebs with ridiculous faces. There's a surgeon/ practitioner going along with all this. Some people therefore won't question it. Add something like body dysmorphia into the mix.

I believe she had no clue on earth this could actually happen to her.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be happy with how you look although recognising that some current "beauty" standards are always unattainable and should be ignored is necessary. Then there is is the utter dysmorphia that lead this woman into think having fillers put in her backside by unqualified people who have deformed themselves was a good idea.

At least in my youth we realised that few of us were ever going to be catwalk models meeting some impossible "ideal", as cosmetic surgery was only for Hollywood stars and the super rich. We therefore just got on with things with slap and a dodgy perm.

Western men prefer white models? Is that what you're saying? What Western men?

I'm a thin girl with a big booty and boobs and huge curly brown hair. I'm an ex model but not very tall and I have yet to have a man turn me down because I'm a curvy brunette. In fact most men have commented on how nice my ass is.

I understand that you think the world revolves around you but I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was talking about the pressure in society to conform to certain expectations.

Could you explain why the beauty, diet, fashion and anti aging business are thriving, multi dollar industries? It's a head scratcher since no woman buys into them.

DH and I were saying exactly the same thing today @AngeloMysterioso

What a waste of a young woman's life. And yeah, those poor wee children. Knowing their mama died because of a vanity procedure. Devastating. 😢

I think that then runs the risk of it being even more dangerous as then dodgy underground clinics would just perform these procedures.

There are plans afoot to only allow doctors, nurses and dentists to perform things like botox, which I believe will make it much more safe.

Not everything in the shops is considered to be high fashion!

You're reducing women into helpless idiots who buy into every trend there is to fit in!! All clothes available are not 'fashion'. I personally prefer to buy what suits me and what is practical. I don't dress for anyone - I like wearing lovely clothes because they make me feel good about myself.

I don't buy 'fast fashion'. I never have and never will. I choose items that are primarily classy, classic and well-cordinated, most importantly that they suit my body shape, but preferably something I'm not going to meet Mary, Jane and Anne wearing down the street.

I wear makeup for the same reason - it makes me feel good about myself. I wear it less often since Covid and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. I wear quite basic makeup compared to my daughters who have a plethora of brushes, lotions, potions, creams, skin enhancers, most of which I haven't even heard of! I don't care!

Although I probably should at my advanced age, I don't use any creams to make me look more youthful. I cleanse and I tone. I don't even moisturise. I have naturally quite good skin.

I haven't been on a diet in so long now I don't even remember. My appetite reduced as I got older and I lost weight naturally.

I hand over very little money for beauty products. Most of it is just a con anyway.

So you can take your stereotype and kiss it goodbye. Women are not all the same and you do us a disservice by claiming that we are!

Then you're an anomaly. You don't wear makeup, shave, dye your hair, diet, buy clothes from shops or use anti aging products.

My point about fashion is that we have no choice about what's available to buy in the shops, not that people throw out their clothes every season.

Such asses have been on black and latina women for years, and yes we've been mocked plenty for them. That's what happens when you don't fit the beauty standard of the time.

How can ANYONE look at that "Lip King" guy and his assistant, and come to the conclusion that he is just the person to inject your face/arse.

But as I said the ones doing this are doing it because they want to. Personal choice. Not pressure from society.

And the fashion comment only applies if you are the type of person who throws out every item of clothing you own regularly. Most people don’t do that. They add to what they already have, therefore developing a style of their own.

Im a woman and I don’t do a lot of what you have listed.

I am overweight. A close family member just went abroad and nearly died due to a gastric sleeve. She was "lucky" she made it back to the UK... Let's just say that.
I said similar to my husband...that I'd rather be the "fat mum" than leave my kids without one.
(Though my kids are spurring me on to do it naturally anyway...)

I described her as acting all female dog, can't remember the exact verb and CBA to look back. Maybe you need to brush up on your reading, not me, if you can't see the subtle difference!!!🙄

What tosh.No normal person wants injections in their honey in order to inflate it like a blow up doll.