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To think that 5 children growing up motherless because their Mum wanted cosmetic surgery is absolutely tragic *edited by MNHQ

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AngeloMysterioso · 26/09/2024 14:10

And actually a damning indictment of the state our society and the pressure placed on women to conform to increasingly ridiculous and unattainable standards of “beauty”??

A woman in her early-30’s has just died after having a Brazilian butt lift procedure in Gloucestershire, leaving 5 children who will now grow up without their mother. She’s not even the first woman to die after this procedure, which is known to be the most dangerous cosmetic surgery procedure commonly available- just the first to die after having it done in the UK.

What the fuck is going on?? Why are women literally putting their lives on the line trying to mimic some cartoonish Kardashian aesthetic? Is it that we place so little value on our own lives or so much value on appearance? Is it that these surgeries and treatments which were once the preserve of the rich and famous, are now available to pretty much anybody and can be performed by people with next to no qualifications?

I feel so angry for that woman, and desperately sad for her children.

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DadJoke · 26/09/2024 15:05

It's a 1/4000 chance of death. People take that level of risk for sports all the time - you just judge this choice as morally less worthy. Do you get as angry at people who drink?

BunnyLake · 26/09/2024 15:05

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 14:57

Because you were brought up in a society where shaving is a social norm. That's social pressure to look a certain way. You're denying the concept of social pressure while conforming to it. And don't make up excuses about how it was a personal choice you just happened to discover one day; it's expected that you'll shave and you capitulated.

It’s also social pressure to not smell like you haven’t washed for a week. Not all social pressures are the same.

KnottedTwine · 26/09/2024 15:05

suburberphobe · 26/09/2024 15:01

Why is the bum enlargement so risky compared to all the other cosmetic surgeries like boob jobs, nose etc?

I know someone who died on the operating table having a boob job. Desperately sad for her family and partner.

All medical procedures carry a risk.

Yes but the person carrying out your boob job on the operating table is a qualified medical doctor who can talk you through the risks of surgery and anaesthetic. And who is trained to know how to carry out the procedure and what to do if things go wrong. And you are in a hospital, with lots of other professionally trained staff for support.

You are not in a shed in someone's back garden, being injected by someone who has no qualifications other than a few GCSEs.

Cattery · 26/09/2024 15:04

It’s pathetic. The sheer vanity. Surely the woman had better stuff to be getting on with

SerendipityJane · 26/09/2024 15:04

I'm angry is legal to offer it,

Try and ban it, and see who objects most (after the people who profit from it).

mitogoshigg · 26/09/2024 15:02

I'm angry is legal to offer it, and angry on behalf of her kids. She chose to go ahead, why? But I accept some people are quite frankly not smart enough to decipher medical advice and vain

sandyhappypeople · 26/09/2024 15:02

RedRobyn2021 · 26/09/2024 14:35

Because it is our society and culture that has made her think she needs this surgery

This constant desire to perform for the male gaze

Constantly putting our value into the way we look

Because it is our society and culture that has made her think she needs this surgery

No it isn't! I'm quite shocked at the amount of people saying she has had this done to conform to society or to look a certain way for a man.. what a load of cop out rubbish which conveniently excuses women from making poor decisions.

Society and culture may influence our likes/dislikes, and normalise things, but it doesn't MAKE you do anything you don't already want to do, the only reason people have these things done is because they want them, they have access to them and they want to look a certain way for themselves.

suburberphobe · 26/09/2024 15:01

Why is the bum enlargement so risky compared to all the other cosmetic surgeries like boob jobs, nose etc?

I know someone who died on the operating table having a boob job. Desperately sad for her family and partner.

All medical procedures carry a risk.

tryingagaintoday · 26/09/2024 15:01

If all those posters performatively weeping their crocodile tears for those children actually gave one shit about them they would not be slagging off their mother on a public site.

Shame on all of you who have done this.

SleepToad · 26/09/2024 15:01

Function · 26/09/2024 14:14

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

Strangely I don't know one man who finds the Kardashian arse attractive, same with lip fillers and botox. I a man and have a wide circle of friends from 22 to 75....whenever it comes up we all agree it's not an attractive look.
Sadly it's the cosmetics industry and women's own insecurities putting them at risk

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 15:01

WeekendFreedom · 26/09/2024 15:01

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

you say this thread is about women but you brought men on the thread by your own question to begin with.

She’s already covered this upthread.

WeekendFreedom · 26/09/2024 15:01

Function · 26/09/2024 14:18

Sure - but this thread is about women. Men take up enough airspace elsewhere.

Sure - but men don’t seem to be dying from BBLs in the same way. Why’s that?

you say this thread is about women but you brought men on the thread by your own question to begin with.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 15:00

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 26/09/2024 14:55

If anyone walks into a salon and sees two practitioners with the botched asthethic that the owner and their assistant had, then my advice would be to RUN. Honestly they looked like Frankenstein’s monster’s family.

Do you have a link? I can’t find anything beyond 2 people were arrested for manslaughter.

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 15:00

Ohmychristdawn · 26/09/2024 14:58

Of course it's driven by the male gaze. You're naive in the extreme if you can't see this.

So she wanted to look good for men, or for her man? Because any man worth his salt cares not how plastic a womans face looks or how fat her bum is.

Victoriawould24 · 26/09/2024 14:59

Having read about this I suspected that the woman may have been from the traveller community where an additional pressure on women and girls exists to look a certain cosmetically enhanced way.

  • I am basing my assumption on my lived professional experience.
poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 14:59

sharpclawedkitten · 26/09/2024 14:45

I've shaved under my arms since I first discovered hair there, I didn't like it, nothing to do with the male gaze.

However, I don't see why women have to shave their legs, but have done it since I was about 17. That is societal pressure. BUT there's a very significant difference between shaving and having unnecessary surgery or injecting unnecessary chemicals into our bodies.

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I was responding to a poster who doesn't agree that there's such a thing as social pressure to look a certain way. Women are expected to shave their body hair in the UK. There is social pressure on women to shave and to deny that is disengenuous.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 14:59

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 14:57

Because you were brought up in a society where shaving is a social norm. That's social pressure to look a certain way. You're denying the concept of social pressure while conforming to it. And don't make up excuses about how it was a personal choice you just happened to discover one day; it's expected that you'll shave and you capitulated.

Exactly

itwasnevermine · 26/09/2024 14:59

@poppyzbrite4 I didn't shave until I was probably 18 or 19. I never have my legs out as I'm mostly at work or at home in gym leggings (because I choose to workout for my health, not for men), and work I'm either in trousers or long, floaty skirts.

Is it not a bit sexist to say I, as a woman, can't have a preference about my own body without it being down to men?

tryingagaintoday · 26/09/2024 14:59

I see you have linked to the article yet ignored the plea in it from the bereaved husband for people not to engage in public conversations like this about his wife out of respect for the feelings of the five children who have lost their mother.

You must know the sort of comments you will attract starting this conversation on here. Couldn't you have just chatted in RL to people you know, where no-one but you and them will ever hear your words, rather than leave all the comments incited by this post as a permanent public record on a site available to literally anyone in the world?

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 26/09/2024 14:58

Toddlerteaplease · 26/09/2024 14:54

@poppyzbrite4 yes. But because I want too. Not for any other reason. I don't care what other people think of my looks.

So you know your wants but this woman didn’t?

deeahgwitch · 26/09/2024 14:58

Alectoishome · 26/09/2024 14:20

I feel angry AT that woman, rather than for her. Perhaps that's wrong of me, obviously I do feel horrified for her. But when I think of her children, I feel rage at her vacuous stupidity, why was she thinking about the size of her arse when she had 5 children to raise.

I agree with you.
But we will be flamed probably.

TheBadLuckOfTeelaBrown · 26/09/2024 14:58

We can blame society, but in the end as adults we are responsible for our own decisions. This woman did something very stupid indeed and society cannot be blamed for the stupidity of individuals. Every procedure comes with risk it is up to us to decide if that risk is worth it just to have a bigger arse. SMH

Ohmychristdawn · 26/09/2024 14:58

Lafondah · 26/09/2024 14:49

I dont think its men at all. Its competing against other women. Do you think her wrong'un of a boyfriend wanted an arse full of filler?

Of course it's driven by the male gaze. You're naive in the extreme if you can't see this.

MusicLife80 · 26/09/2024 14:57

It’s incredibly sad there is a quite a group of women who want to look like this lady. And there is no stopping them, she was unrecognisable from her early photos. It’s so so sad. Those poor kids.

poppyzbrite4 · 26/09/2024 14:57

itwasnevermine · 26/09/2024 14:44

@poppyzbrite4 because I have a physical preference for how my own skin feels?

Because you were brought up in a society where shaving is a social norm. That's social pressure to look a certain way. You're denying the concept of social pressure while conforming to it. And don't make up excuses about how it was a personal choice you just happened to discover one day; it's expected that you'll shave and you capitulated.