Princess Diana Question?

Interesting. I don't suppose stringing a load of words into an inaccurate, unhelpful and ineffectual sentence would make me feel better were I in that position. But we can agree to disagree.

I dunno, if it was my daughter, it might help me to use whatever words i want

It's stupid to continue using the wrong label for it. It muddies the water a great deal and doesn't help anything at all.

Sorry for labelling a man who had sex with a child a 'pedo', I'll do better next time and go with 'nonce' instead.

Man abuses women.

Man gets found out.

Society blames a woman briefly linked to abusive man rather than the man himself.

Sigh.

This sums it up:
The shameless fixers who enable monsters like Al Fayed
I have to confess I shrieked when I read that Michael Cole – long-term publicist for the late Mohamed Al Fayed – can’t come to the phone these days, says Marina Hyde in The Guardian. Because there was a time when Cole could always come to the phone, usually to emit some “hugely pompous shitblast” in defence of his master, who is now the subject of multiple rape and sexual assault allegations. Cole is reportedly “in seclusion” dealing with the shock of the mounting claims that his boss was a prolific sex offender. I’ll leave readers to decide whether he has somehow forgotten about all the allegations he “personally batted away” during Al Fayed’s lifetime, or if he was simply the “worst publicist ever” for not being across the details. But we shouldn’t overlook the fact that it’s precisely because of men like Cole that Al Fayed “got away with it all”.
The Harrods owner was surrounded by spokesmen, lawyers, security goons, even doctors who performed “purity examinations” on young female PAs. He wasn’t the only one to do this, of course: Michael Jackson, Harvey Weinstein, Jimmy Savile – these “larger than life” men all had similar set-ups to insulate them from their disgusting crimes. Just look at the music mogul Sean Combs, known as Diddy, who has just been charged with crimes including sex trafficking and racketeering. He, too, presumably has a small army of lawyers, NDA experts and crisis PRs, all “working in perfect symphony” to keep their man out of trouble. This motley crew of enablers, enforcers and concealers are effectively the “sex-case industrial complex” – a whole “corrupt society” devoted to allowing horrible men to continue committing horrible crimes. Shame on them all.

Diana's father and stepmother had their hands deep in the Fayed pockets for years. Of course they knew what he was like and didn't care. Fayed thought he could buy his way in. People don't seem to understand that domestic workers, shopworkers, masseuses, admin staff, any employee really, all the support workers that facilitate the lives of the pampered rich, are seen as

1. Property for the time of hiring and
2. Non-persons who exist solely to serve them in any way they specify. AND serving them is an honour.

How many others could have offered security as in the guards, jets & yachts & chance to hang, protected, overseas? He was dumping his USA fiancé for her (?) She may have seen him only as a fling, did he & was he controlled by his father?

Could he have facilitated a life mainly/partly overseas, USA? For her?

Thinking Jackie Onassis - a love story or security second time around?

And NO secret on M A Fayed.

You'd be surprised how much time is spent gossiping in the circles in which Diana was brought up and lived.

Just as shocking though isn’t it? No amount of money would keep my mouth shut. Threat to life would obviously affect it but money no.

You've not read a lot about Dodi have you OP? Diana would have paid no attention to any warnings. And if Fayed senior couldn't get a British passport, be assured his son wouldn't have 'got' a royal. Couldn't happen.

Agree, and he was handsome and rich.

Rich yes, but Dodi "handsome"? He gave me the creeps actually. I found him smarmy.

Yes, Private Eye's been talking about sexual abuse allegations for at least 20 years; presumably while Al Fayed was alive victims were too scared to come forward officially, but it's not exactly been a secret.

All the more reason to accept him, given this establishment's record

Interesting that MAL never managed to become a british citizen, the establishment knew all about him.

I haven't wondered but I've no doubt that they did. Diana wouldn't let anything get in the way of money and raising her profile. She was a complete narcissist in the true sense of the word, not in the vastly overused sense that it is today. All that mattered to her was looking good and being praised. She was me, myself and I all the way.

I haven't thought about this but I imagine they knew he was a lecherous flirt but not that he was a rapist. He's unlikely to have told family members that he was sexually assaulting women. At the same time, I'm sure they noticed his predatory behaviour.

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Why are you even posting on it

Haven’t given it any thought whatsoever but Di was also good friends with Jimmy Saville. As was Charles.

No idea if she knew about Saville or Fayed being sexual predators but both were really creepy bastards and I don’t know how anyone could be friends with people who seem so “off”.

I'm sure he kept that side of himself well hidden from those not on his payroll

I'm sure they knew he wasn't a decent man who respected all women as equals. Given the time and the more lax attitudes, I'd imagine he was considered to 'have an eye for the ladies' and indulged in the way obscenely wealthy men tend to be. Diana would have probably claimed he was 'never anything but a gentleman to me'.

Well if you want to go down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole, maybe that’s why the establishment did away with her. You couldn’t have the future King related to yet another rapist, not whilst Priunce Andy is around.