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Princess Diana Question?

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PassingStranger · 26/09/2024 12:35

Has anyone wondered if Diana and Dodi or just Dodi knew about Mohammed Al Fayed the creep?
I guess we will never know?
If they had both been alive now and still together it would have surely been a news item though?

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EdgeOfSixty · 28/09/2024 12:40

godmum56 · 26/09/2024 14:45

Is it true that Kier Starmer was in the CPS at a high level when the decision was taken not to prosecute AlFayed?

I was waiting for KS to be blamed. Didn't take long.

User14March · 28/09/2024 12:34

@OverthinkingOlive actually I think billionaire protectors were her fast becoming her only option for freedom & happiness as she wanted to experience it. They were not thick on the ground,

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 28/09/2024 11:31

godmum56 · 28/09/2024 11:17

a crate of baked beans is not a millionaire businessman who owns facilities used by the Royal Family.

quite. and it would be down to police to ensure their safety not the CPS.

it would be down to the royal family advisors to talk to the individuals of the royal family about rumours of moral conduct. not the cps

godmum56 · 28/09/2024 11:17

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 28/09/2024 11:08

Did the ceo of Sainsbury’s happen to know about the crate of baked beans that were sold two months out of date in their Cardiff store in 1995?

probably not.

he wouldn’t have known everything that was being investigated at that time. Let alone when police were involved in hushing it up

a crate of baked beans is not a millionaire businessman who owns facilities used by the Royal Family.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 28/09/2024 11:08

godmum56 · 26/09/2024 14:45

Is it true that Kier Starmer was in the CPS at a high level when the decision was taken not to prosecute AlFayed?

Did the ceo of Sainsbury’s happen to know about the crate of baked beans that were sold two months out of date in their Cardiff store in 1995?

probably not.

he wouldn’t have known everything that was being investigated at that time. Let alone when police were involved in hushing it up

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 28/09/2024 11:04

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 26/09/2024 15:11

The last series of The Crown isn’t going to age well.

Thank goodness.
it might make some people realise it’s fan fiction.

OverthinkingOlive · 28/09/2024 11:03

User14March · 28/09/2024 10:52

@OverthinkingOlive would it? Could she have found semi permanent escape to the USA or overseas without a hugely wealthy protector with own security detail? Aristotle Onassis wasn’t attractive to Jackie Kennedy for his moral superiority & good looks.

MAF wasn't the only wealthy protector in the world. Diana would never have ran out of options.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 28/09/2024 11:02

TinySmol · 28/09/2024 10:18

I wonder if the palace knew about Fayed......

I’m sure they did. Fayed was always rumoured to have a massive chip on his shoulder about not being accepted by the aristocracy and royals (pre Diana & dodi). It was rumoured to be part of his reasoning behind buying harrods to try and buy acceptance by British aristocracy.
i wonder how much of Diana’s relationship was an added bonus to winding the royals up. I don’t think it was ever going to last.

you also have to remember it was different times, women were seen as culpable in their fate for being alone with men like this. It didn’t matter the power difference, or age difference. It was not that long ago, yet generations in terms of how women’s assaults were viewed. It would have been seen as mutually beneficial. She gets special treatment and promotions, he gets favours. Everyone’s happy (accept they obviously aren’t). How many times were those employed in the 90’s or 00’s hear “she slept her way to the top”

User14March · 28/09/2024 10:52

@OverthinkingOlive would it? Could she have found semi permanent escape to the USA or overseas without a hugely wealthy protector with own security detail? Aristotle Onassis wasn’t attractive to Jackie Kennedy for his moral superiority & good looks.

OverthinkingOlive · 28/09/2024 10:46

I imagine Diana probably knew a lot of things about a lot of high profile people but turned a blind eye as long as she was living in the luxury she was accustomed to. She had many good points and it's tragic she died so young but she wasn't the perfect angel she's been made out to be since her death. I doubt her fling with Dodi would have made it to Christmas 1997.

TinySmol · 28/09/2024 10:18

I wonder if the palace knew about Fayed......

godmum56 · 27/09/2024 09:16

Whether · 27/09/2024 08:34

The CPS determines what can be prosecuted based on evidence brought to them by the police. They don’t independently start locking people up.

The police, who incidentally, had a sponsored Harrods patrol car (?!). MAFs Head of Security is ex MET and was threatening victims and their families etc. So not the police’ finest hour again was it.

Don’t make it political about KS when it’s quite clear there was a massive cover up wayyyy before anything even got to the CPS. The evidence may also not have reached a threshold.

Apparently a spokeman for KS has said that "the case did not come across his desk" and that "he had no knowledge of it"

Whether · 27/09/2024 08:34

godmum56 · 26/09/2024 14:45

Is it true that Kier Starmer was in the CPS at a high level when the decision was taken not to prosecute AlFayed?

The CPS determines what can be prosecuted based on evidence brought to them by the police. They don’t independently start locking people up.

The police, who incidentally, had a sponsored Harrods patrol car (?!). MAFs Head of Security is ex MET and was threatening victims and their families etc. So not the police’ finest hour again was it.

Don’t make it political about KS when it’s quite clear there was a massive cover up wayyyy before anything even got to the CPS. The evidence may also not have reached a threshold.

GreatMistakes · 27/09/2024 08:27

Why does she need to be dragged into this. She's been dead for over 25 years, let the poor woman rest.

DragonGypsyDoris · 27/09/2024 08:20

PassingStranger · 26/09/2024 14:03

Anyone?

Desperate for attention?

tattychicken · 27/09/2024 07:43

I doubt it. It's always been by subscription or buying a hard copy from a newsagent. The podcast is relatively recent but really only gives a taste of the publication.

It's been around for about 60 years now and is rarely wrong about the corruption and dodgy dealings it reports on.

KenAdams · 26/09/2024 23:06

FlyHalf · 26/09/2024 16:09

Yes, Private Eye's been talking about sexual abuse allegations for at least 20 years; presumably while Al Fayed was alive victims were too scared to come forward officially, but it's not exactly been a secret.

Slightly off topic but they seem to have been banging the drum about so much over the years that's eventually turned into a "scandal". I only listen to their podcast but might start reading it too. Wonder if it's free on Libby or something?

User14March · 26/09/2024 22:55

@x2boys she was then much more seriously than previously, looking for escape, money, security & protection. The Al Fayeds could provide this.

x2boys · 26/09/2024 22:30

Nobody can say for certain and Diana had a lot of faults but she wasent a stupid women I think Dodi was a distraction ,i don't think she would have had a long term controversial relationship. ,with someone like him dhe was the the mother of a future monarch when all said and done

LlynTegid · 26/09/2024 18:12

Let Princess Diana rest in peace.

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 26/09/2024 18:02

Staunchlystarling · 26/09/2024 14:48

Agree, and he was handsome and rich.

people have to remember Diana had lots of partners, Christ will carlings marriage ended as Diana was the OW.. Fair play, she was single. And sure she wasn’t big into the sisterhood, doing someone else’s husband. But dodi was just the last one list before she passed, they are only linked as they died together, in the early stages of their relationship.

Yep, just posted on this.

She could make up a football team (and subs) with the number of men she was with. The sham of a marraige traumatised her so I don't blame her seeking out men who actually gave her attention, although not condoning her being the OW obviously. I dont think she'd ever have settled with one man (just like Margaret and her list of lovers after her equally sham of a marraige).

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 26/09/2024 17:52

x2boys · 26/09/2024 14:09

I dont.think it was a long term relationship
I thought it was a bit of a fling that ended tragically?

Yes, I'm thinking fling too.

Diana had a lot of men on the go.

GrazingGoat · 26/09/2024 17:50

Fulham Football Club knew and took steps to protect their players.

AmeliaEarache · 26/09/2024 17:41

Dodi and all at Harrods knew, it wasn't a secret there. Look at the number of people involved in the various aspects of cover up.

I doubt Diana would have a clue - predatory men don't boast to women about this, they boast to other men.

But what a bloody weird question to ask - would a woman dead for over 25 years know about the rapist asshole father of the current boyfriend?

Andante57 · 26/09/2024 17:37

@BunnyLake
This is by Charles Moore in the Spectator

Reporting on Mohamed Fayed was one of the great frustrations of editing a newspaper in the 1990s. We all knew he behaved appallingly in numerous ways, and we believed he was sexually assaulting women. But so great were the legal and security walls around him that we failed to breach them. He could terrify existing and former employees into silence. At last, that dam is broken. But it is infuriating to hear Fayed now described as ‘close to the royal family’. So far as I know, he was not close to anyone royal. Through his son Dodi, he became (arguably) close to Diana in the last months of her life, but by then she was not royal, having lost that status on her divorce the previous year. One of Fayed’s specialities was publicly insulting the royal family, especially Prince Philip. The suggestion that it was somehow protecting him is tragicomical