Labour PIP benefit cuts

The misinformation on this thread is shocking people really have no clue what pip is and how difficult it is to get and why it has the lowest fraud rate out of all the benefits by a significant amount. Uc fraud rate is over 12% and pip is 0.4 % as you need so much medical evidence there is absolutely no way of getting it without

Where I live woman next door claims every benifit including pip, claims to have a bad back, every summer I see her carrying crates of budweiser. Been out of work all her life.
4 adults in other house, not one of them has ever worked,and are claming pip etc..., all got arms, all got legs, all got a brain refuse them. All go socialing down the pub and that and go on annual holidays.
Theres a woman further up the road, nowt wrong with her and never had a job in the 30 years i've known her, watches wide screen tv at night.
Another woman who has had 7 children, not a single one of them work Her children are 19-30 odd years old. Her 2 youngest sons are 19 and 21 never had a job claim all benifits.
If people can work then they should work, where is the pride sitting at home if your able.

Not for adults it doesn't. Apart from getting the 1 bedroom rate for housing if under 35. There's only extra money for LCWRA or LCW before April 2017.

No it can't their completely separate you can recieve lcwra without pip. Pip has nothing to do with uc

Yes but it if a.person is in receipt of both PIP and UC ,the PIP can.have a positive affect on the UC award

Why do you think that pip is £1600 per month? Enhanced pip for those with the worst disabilities is less than half that amount. Standard rate pip is much less than enhanced

@Staunchlystarling like I said, asset wealthy is not same as cash in the bank wealthy.
Whatever something may be worth, you can't access that immediately like cash in the bank.
Of course, one could argue that they should liquidate their assets but again you can't do that just like that... so, with the announcement of winter fuel allowance cut to actually not receiving a payment, I just think there is not enough time.

Pip numbers are rising because the nhs is failing.

Have they defined "working people" as "linked to unions"? I must have missed that. Do tell me where that's been stated. In any case almost anyone in employment can join a union.
I'm a pensioner who's still working self employed and part time. I don't think I have to be careful what I wish for, thank you.

Pip is already incredibly difficult to get

This I claim pip and work part time I use all my holidays on medical appointments. I have zero life outside of my part time job as I'm recovering from my shifts.

I’m on PIP and voted Labour. I’m marginally worried because that’s how I roll. I reckon I’d be more worried if the Tories had got back in seeing as it was them who started this unrest against ill and disabled people with their voucher scheme shit.

Bullshit do you have any idea how hard pip is to get and how much evidence you need

Yes as if you’re 8 million of assets you’re clawing yer arse skint.

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He is a toad.

But are they really millionaires ?? Asset wealthy is not the same as cash in the bank wealthy🤷🏼‍♀️

Most people seem to have given the Tories years before the penny dropped that they were essentially inept. Why after 3 months are people already disappointed with this government ? As usual it’s like bloody football. No sooner has one manager been sacked, the new one is almost immediately criticised on the basis of a few matches.
Absolute short termism and an inability to delay gratification. Unless of course you’re the Conservative Party who always have the benefit of the doubt.

The UC uplift that those of us on legacy benefits weren't entitled to. There didn't seem to be as much uproar about that.

It went to court and we lost.

A bit of common sense would show that a more humane threshold for WFA would take all the anger out of this particular cut. It seems like such an unnecessary mis-step.

Not only do they always know somebody who’s taking advantage of the benefits system but that person is apparently happy to shout about it in great detail for all the world to hear.

I’ve never encountered this; it’s like a parallel universe.

Ugh these threads always bring out the best.

They always know someone who apparently is taking advantage of the benefits system for disabled whilst forgetting that the majority who receive benefits do work (not that pip has any relevance to working.)

Try not to worry OP. I get PIP. I'm just ignoring it all until I see an official policy announcement.

There’s no real evidence to suggest that raising taxes paid by wealthier people will cause an exodus. They don’t want to uproot their lives any more than anybody else.

What we’re seeing from the new government isn’t about raising revenue; it’s about rhetoric, laying out their stall. It’s about a centre right Labour government attempting to prove that they can replace the Tory party, using those of us who are ill, disabled or otherwise marginalised as evidence of their pro-business, anti socialist stance.
It’s extremely disappointing.

Well Labour are more interested in 'working people' and have a definition for that. Linked to unions

Pensioners can't strike and neither can people on benefits (well they can but not related to benefits solely), so be careful what you wish for.

Essentially the government cannot cut any benefits because some vulnerable minority will lose out. They can’t cut taxes because the stretched middle class will moan, they can’t increase taxes on the very wealthy because they’ll up sticks and leave, they can’t make any changes to WFA because pensioners are all poor and vulnerable and heating their homes with a candle (despite 27% of pensioners being millionaires).
So how on earth are they supposed to rebuild the country ?

Exactly. ETA the only people they didn't target were pensioners because they thought that's where their core vote was.