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Labour PIP benefit cuts

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Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:01

Can someone help me please?

I'm absolutely spiraling. I've just read up about the Labour conference and everything about PIP reforms.

I'm absolutely panicking. I feel like giving up. I'm on PIP with mental health.

I do work. Part time.

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harrumphh · 25/09/2024 21:54

There were only 2 new policy announcements in the conference and neither of those were related to PIP. I watched the whole thing.

No way are they going to announce anything about PIP when there's still so much backlash about winter fuel.

caringcarer · 25/09/2024 21:54

I would imagine it's because if you get top level PIP for care and mobility and are claiming UC too then they pay you extra for having a disability too, so really you get credited and paid twice for being disabled. It happens with children who claim DLA and then parents get paid extra because they have a disabled DC too. I would think if they wanted to reduce disability payments they would stop people being paid twice for disability payments once from PIP/DLA and then again through UC. I have read that Labour want to crack down on mental health issues too particularly those who suffer from Anxiety and are too anxious to go out to work. I don't know the answer maybe working from home might help if they get anxious going out. The previous Tory government were considering introducing vouchers instead of cash for the disabled. I don't know how that would have worked for services but I suppose ok for disability aids or incontinence pads etc.

beeloubee · 25/09/2024 21:51

Mainoo72 · 25/09/2024 21:30

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/25/long-term-sick-need-to-get-back-to-work-where-they-can-says-starmer

Like to see this prick with a delayed diagnosis of broken neck like me plus tethered cord with no treatment from NHS return back to work. What a Prat. People are long term sick for a reason, another out of touch politician.

Evilartsgrad · 25/09/2024 21:43

Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:35

He's disgusting

Oh give over. People should work IF they can. Because it's usually good for you. Hardly even mildly controversial.

Miley1967 · 25/09/2024 21:39

mrshoho · 25/09/2024 21:23

As far as I know the maximum pip payment is around £800 per month so not sure where you are getting £1600.

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Probably combining highest rates of PIP with standard UC and LCWRA or ESA support group.

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 25/09/2024 21:35

@mrshoho

My relative gets disability benefits and she brings in

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Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:35

He's disgusting

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Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:33

Thanks everyone.

This is why I don't pay attention to the news. I honestly don't know what made me read it tonight.

For what it's worth I do work part time. I worked full time until 18 months ago.

Always worked whilst battling manic depression.

Makes me feel like a scrounger.

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Miley1967 · 25/09/2024 21:33

I think it is just scaremongering, but it does need massive reform.

DinosaurMunch · 25/09/2024 21:30

It's true that we have too many people long term sick. They have announced plans to tackle this with increased preventive health care. Not slashing benefits

luckylavender · 25/09/2024 21:27

Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:16

In the media.

Newspapers.

The government hasn't said anything. Newspapers make up stuff.

MyPeppyTaupeFox · 25/09/2024 21:27

Please don't panic OP. My understanding is that they are talking about getting people out of work into work (so people on ESA for example).

EsmeSusanOgg · 25/09/2024 21:26

There's been extensive media coverage of an IFS (Institute of Fiscal Studies) report that has suggested PIP eligibility changes/ level changes could save money. The report also says that many people receiving PIP would face hardship. This is one piece elf budget speculation being reported. The actual report from the IFS seems fairly 'here's the pros and here's the cons' and quote balanced. But there's been a fair few alarmist headlines about this online. Separately the PM said that they would be cracking down on benefit fraud.

I'm guessing this is what OP is refering to? OP, try to not focus too much on the headlines if you can.

Putting · 25/09/2024 21:26

The Big Issue article doesn’t say anything about PIP being cut.

The other link regurgitates something from an IFS paper where they propose different things, most of which won’t happen.

Until something is announced formally then it’s just scaremongering so best not to listen to it / read it.

user1471453601 · 25/09/2024 21:26

@Mainoo72 yes the government are talking about getting people back into work - by cutting NHS waiting list s. I haven't heard a word about cutting PIP.

I think, if you simply want to make a political point, your comments are fair enough -though they are wrong. But to frighten the opening poster by seeking to agree that the government are planning to cut benefits for people with disabilities/illness?

not on. No such thing has been said.

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Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:26

MeMyCatsAndI · 25/09/2024 21:25

Not PIP there on about ESA.

Very different, but it's BS anyway. They'd plunge thousands into poverty.

OK thank you xx

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MeMyCatsAndI · 25/09/2024 21:25

Not PIP there on about ESA.

Very different, but it's BS anyway. They'd plunge thousands into poverty.

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Stickytoffeepudding6 · 25/09/2024 21:25

hoglets · 25/09/2024 21:19

please stop posting this nonsense. None of this is true otherwise you would provide some links. It's total BS.

I've just posted the links. I'm not good with phones and IT stuff.

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mrshoho · 25/09/2024 21:23

something2say · 25/09/2024 21:20

Stop panicking. It may not affect you.

FWIW I worked in one place where one lady received £1600 pcm and spent it all on stuff that later had to be donated. Her disability qualified her, but her actual need was for a part time voluntary job as she was lonely for people, not stuff.

I then worked somewhere else where one man was in a wheelchair and couldn't tolerate any interaction or he would self harm until he bled. He absolutely doesn't need £1600 of the taxpayers money each month.

Hopefully people like this will be re means assessed. Along with those who receive that amount, never spend it and regularly get benefits cut off because it gets saved and they go over the threshold....

As far as I know the maximum pip payment is around £800 per month so not sure where you are getting £1600.

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discoballdave · 25/09/2024 21:20

PIP is not long term sick. They're talking about long term sick absence from work/ineligibility to look for work. You can get PIP while full time employed regardless of your salary.

Please don't be concerned. It's unlikely they'll go for PIP at all.

something2say · 25/09/2024 21:20

Stop panicking. It may not affect you.

FWIW I worked in one place where one lady received £1600 pcm and spent it all on stuff that later had to be donated. Her disability qualified her, but her actual need was for a part time voluntary job as she was lonely for people, not stuff.

I then worked somewhere else where one man was in a wheelchair and couldn't tolerate any interaction or he would self harm until he bled. He absolutely doesn't need £1600 of the taxpayers money each month.

Hopefully people like this will be re means assessed. Along with those who receive that amount, never spend it and regularly get benefits cut off because it gets saved and they go over the threshold....

hoglets · 25/09/2024 21:19

please stop posting this nonsense. None of this is true otherwise you would provide some links. It's total BS.

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