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HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:00

A member of my family has given up her job due to depression and anxiety.

The GP is aware and shd has been having counselling.

Her h is not working, he's almost state pension age but not quite, and his work pension doesn't seem to be enough to keep them. He has COPD and other issues and doesn't want to return to work.

Does anyone know offhand if she could get any benefits in her situation?

I will obviously be advising her to go to citizens advice and the UC office too.

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Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 26/09/2024 15:25

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 25/09/2024 18:55

That's quite an assumption about someone you don't even know - and there may well be some kinds of work she could do, doesn't mean there is a lot of that kind of work available. Or anyone who would be willing to take her on, as we all know discrimination happens.

I know what you mean. When the request is PIP rather than support back into a different type of work it’s quite frustrating.

Notaflippinclue · 26/09/2024 15:22

Want to comment but darent

Gingerkittykat · 25/09/2024 20:57

She can claim new style ESA (employment and support allowance) which is for people who have paid NI contributions over the past couple of years. It is not means tested, she will need to get a sick note from her GP to start the claim.

She might also be eligible for universal credit as a couple but it depends on what her husband's pension income is.

Phen0menon · 25/09/2024 20:43

Her best bet is to focus not on what she can't do but instead to focus on what she can.

For a lot of people a change in occupation can help. One of the staff at my DC preschool had left a very stressful job with mental health. She switched to working 8.45 - 3.15 at the preschool, term time only, and was much happier.

XenoBitch · 25/09/2024 20:36

@HazelPlayer as your relative has been working up until recently, she may be able to claim contributions based ESA, which is not means tested... meaning her husband's pension will not be taken into account.
She would be better off making an appointment with her local CAB, and they can go over what she needs to do in regard to claiming.

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 20:26

Thanks for the help everyone.

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StMarieforme · 25/09/2024 19:45

In actual fact they do an online UC claim. UC will look at their health needs, meds etc, and make a decision as to whether the claimant is or is not fit for work. This is how it works. Be honest and truthful on the application. Do it today.

VeraYin · 25/09/2024 19:43

I would really try to help her find a low stress job. In my experience staying at home and isolating yourself can make anxiety and depression worse. Work can give routine and purpose and socialisation, I find these helpful.

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 25/09/2024 19:26

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 25/09/2024 18:55

That's quite an assumption about someone you don't even know - and there may well be some kinds of work she could do, doesn't mean there is a lot of that kind of work available. Or anyone who would be willing to take her on, as we all know discrimination happens.

The op agrees with me so back in your box love.

IveGotToGoToMeDads · 25/09/2024 19:03

citizens advice are great and will help with forms.

IveGotToGoToMeDads · 25/09/2024 19:02

Lcwra(limited caperbility for work related activity, pip and universal credit. Will have to be assessed as having limited caperbility for work and pip do assessment.

easylikeasundaymorn · 25/09/2024 18:56

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:34

I don't either.

But it's until she improves a bit and finds something.

(I would add to that that I personally haven't found not working to improve anxiety & depression, quite the opposite. It's what she could do without getting too stressed though).

Edited

this is the issue. Whether she was unable to do her previous job or whether she is unable to do any job, are two completely different things. If the first ,UC would be the most appropriate, with the aim of taking a breather, possibly getting support and then finding a new job. I think they used to give you up to 6 months to find a job in your desired field and after that you'd be expected to apply for anything and everything, and, yes in my experience they would check - obviously they wouldn't be able to definitively establish whether you'd done 36hrs exactly but they would expect details of what jobs you'd applied for, proof of application submitted, etc.

Whether the person actually put any effort into said application is of course not so easy to prove, and why so many adverts get applications from completely unsuitable candidates who clearly don't even want said job and are just tick boxing to get their UC/JSA.

For the second it would be PIP but that would require proof and at some point an evaluation.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 25/09/2024 18:55

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 25/09/2024 18:31

I don't believe that there's really nothing at all she can do for work

That's quite an assumption about someone you don't even know - and there may well be some kinds of work she could do, doesn't mean there is a lot of that kind of work available. Or anyone who would be willing to take her on, as we all know discrimination happens.

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:50

I just Googled ESA and got European Space Agency.

Edit; found it.

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Nonametonight · 25/09/2024 18:49

Her options are pip, ESA and universal credit.

Pip and ESA are not means tested. She will need to have assessments to see if she qualifies for help. Both benefits have big forms which she would be wise to get help filling out.

Universal credit is means tested. Her husband's pension would be deducted £ for £, and it's not an especially generous benefits so you might find she doesn't have any entitlement. Best way to check would be the turn2us benefit calculator.

If she does apply for universal credit or ESA she will need to submit sick notes while she waits for an assessment.

On UC, there's a possibility that she will be asked to look for work while she waits for the assessment

You asked whether her having given up her job would affect her being able to claim benefits. Benefits can be sanctioned at the beginning of a claim if the person is found to have quit there job without a good reason. Health problems are almost always accepted as a good reason.

C152 · 25/09/2024 18:41

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:24

she will need to do 36 hours a week looking for work

As an aside, one wonders how much time staff would have to spend checking that for each person on UC, and how effective the checks would be.

She'd be asked to keep a log of all her applications online, so the work coach can view it. They also expect you to apply for absolutely anything, not just something within your skillset. I guess if they doubted she applied to all the jobs she said she did, they could ring some of the companies to check whether an application had been received.

I think she would need significant medical evidence to get PIP, but she should try to claim UC in the meantime.

CitizenofGotham · 25/09/2024 18:39

I was on Universal Credit when I couldn't work due to anxiety for a couple of years. They were very understanding and supportive. They put me on some courses to benefit me and help me with my mental health and easing back to work.

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:34

Alcohol is also an issue.

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HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:34

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 25/09/2024 18:31

I don't believe that there's really nothing at all she can do for work

I don't either.

But it's until she improves a bit and finds something.

(I would add to that that I personally haven't found not working to improve anxiety & depression, quite the opposite. It's what she could do without getting too stressed though).

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HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:32

IsitaHatOrACat · 25/09/2024 18:30

Has she accessed talking therapies and mental health support OP? These services often have an employment adviser who can help.

She has been dealing with someone, but I'm not sure exactly what their role is.

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CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 25/09/2024 18:31

I don't believe that there's really nothing at all she can do for work

Sprogonthetyne · 25/09/2024 18:31

In the immediate, she could ask her doctor for a fit not, which she can then show to the jobcentre, so they won't expect her to look for work straightaway. If she's unable to work for a longer time, she will have a work capability assesment, where the jobcentre will assess if they think she would be able to work. If the assessment class her as either Low Capability for work, or low capability for work related activities, she won't be expected to work (though might need to do courses on the former), and her uc payment will also increase.

She could also apply for pip separately, which isn't administered through the jobcentre, and is to cover costs related to her disability. If she gets that her partner could then become her carer, and ask for the carers element to be added to their uc claim.

IsitaHatOrACat · 25/09/2024 18:30

Has she accessed talking therapies and mental health support OP? These services often have an employment adviser who can help.

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 25/09/2024 18:28

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:07

She left her job (after being encouraged to return following absence for anxiety, stress etc.) ..

I was wondering if the "thing" applied that used to; when people who left jobs of their own accord can't get benefits for a period.

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She couldn't claim jobseekers. But she isn't job seeking so it's fine.

HazelPlayer · 25/09/2024 18:24

she will need to do 36 hours a week looking for work

As an aside, one wonders how much time staff would have to spend checking that for each person on UC, and how effective the checks would be.

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