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MIL and her emotional support dog

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Moreacatperson · 25/09/2024 17:45

AIBU to not let MIL come round with her dog? She apparently can’t/won’t go anywhere without him (this has been the case for 10 months now) and it is causing tension.

I am terrified of dogs and also very allergic. I hate the smell and the hair and just don’t want one in the house. We were meant to host Christmas this year but after MIL told me ‘it’s not down to you - it’s down to MY son and he will override you on this and you can take antihistamines ‘ I cancelled it and let everyone know on the family WhatsApp that they all need to make alternative arrangements this year.

DH agrees with me as MIL only lives nearby so can easily leave the dog at home she just doesn’t like it as it’s not trained and is destructive when left alone and doesn’t have a crate. It’s more of a spoilt fur baby that she labels an emotional support dog (she just purchased the little vest it isn’t officially recognised as any kind of trained support dog)

I’ve told her not to bother me anymore if she wants to see DH / DC contact them directly and see them at her house or out

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Mumoftwochildrenand6furkids · 26/09/2024 17:53

She is out of order, I love cats and dogs and If you visit me they are around but no I dont take them with me when I visit people, your house your rules.

PotatoLove · 26/09/2024 17:49

Bloody cheek of your MIL! Glad you and DH have stuck to your guns regarding the dog being allowed in your home. Poor little dog must be a bundle of nerves itself.

MiaFeysImprobableBosom · 26/09/2024 17:45

I think there's always been people who find that caring for a dog is good for their mental health

Yep it's called a pet.

this just sounds like an excuse for people to take dogs to places that aren't appropriate

Not just dogs. I saw a "news" story a few years ago about an autistic bloke who thought that his autism was justification to take his pet cat into the supermarket. And people were actually going along with it.

(Note: I have an ASD diagnosis myself, and have known many autistic people as friends, acquaintances and family members, with many different expressions of their autism and differing support needs. I have advocated strongly for autistic people and their rights and needs, and been involved in various kinds of projects within services to drive improvement as well as some activism from outside. I still think that chap is taking the absolute piss.)

WhatNoRaisins · 26/09/2024 17:34

I think there's always been people who find that caring for a dog is good for their mental health but this just sounds like an excuse for people to take dogs to places that aren't appropriate.

WeAreNotCookingTheSpoon · 26/09/2024 17:34

How did she take you saying that nobody is welcome for Xmas?

I think you’ve done the right thing btw.

Allfur · 26/09/2024 17:25

Moreacatperson · 26/09/2024 17:17

She has various conditions that are genuine but the dog is just a pet it’s not trained in any way at all ! She has just labelled it ‘emotional support dog’. She has depression and anxiety.

Edited

If everyone who had depression and anxiety needed a support dog, there'd be a lot of dogs

Moreacatperson · 26/09/2024 17:17

Allfur · 26/09/2024 15:55

Is it really an emotional support dog, or did she make that up? If so, what's wrong with her?

She has various conditions that are genuine but the dog is just a pet it’s not trained in any way at all ! She has just labelled it ‘emotional support dog’. She has depression and anxiety.

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Allfur · 26/09/2024 17:10

thursdaymurderclub · 26/09/2024 16:52

you can't ask a person that! thats non of our business. As frustrating as some peoples 'needs' are, its not for us to ask

Fuck that, if it affects me i ask

OrdsallChord · 26/09/2024 17:06

Moreacatperson · 25/09/2024 18:08

She does that a lot , 3 months ago she let me know that as his mother she is his legal next of kin and wasn’t happy when I corrected her she had to get ‘legal advice ‘ to check . Apparently because DH had his house before we met and married she thought if anything happened to him that it would be hers 😂😂😂😂

Sounds like the dog is just one on a list of issues!

thursdaymurderclub · 26/09/2024 16:52

Allfur · 26/09/2024 15:55

Is it really an emotional support dog, or did she make that up? If so, what's wrong with her?

you can't ask a person that! thats non of our business. As frustrating as some peoples 'needs' are, its not for us to ask

TheDuck2018 · 26/09/2024 16:02

Moreacatperson · 26/09/2024 15:42

There wasn’t any point me putting in the message what had happened as that would have just opened up a conversation about it and I didn’t want to do that. I’m just exhausted by it all me wanted to keep it to a short message / statement and then just get on with planning a relaxing Christmas instead. Dh is still in the group I left as in general m trying to be on my phone less and all the excess groups don’t help with that so I’ve been leaving a few and now the family one too 😂

What was the reaction from the rest of the family when you told them you were cancelling?

Allfur · 26/09/2024 15:55

Is it really an emotional support dog, or did she make that up? If so, what's wrong with her?

Moreacatperson · 26/09/2024 15:42

There wasn’t any point me putting in the message what had happened as that would have just opened up a conversation about it and I didn’t want to do that. I’m just exhausted by it all me wanted to keep it to a short message / statement and then just get on with planning a relaxing Christmas instead. Dh is still in the group I left as in general m trying to be on my phone less and all the excess groups don’t help with that so I’ve been leaving a few and now the family one too 😂

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ABirdsEyeView · 26/09/2024 13:29

My only criticism is that OP didn't put in the family group chat that mil had said to her!

Well done on shutting that shit right down. She'd never step foot in my house again after what she said.

I think this attitude happens a lot when a man already owns his home and then gets married and the new wife moves in. The family still think of it as just his home and don't expect to change their behaviour to recognise that it's now someone else's home too now.
But you'd think that by the time a couple has kids the penny would have dropped. Especially when it's the wife doing all the work in hosting!

ICallPeopleDudeNow · 26/09/2024 09:34

phoenixrosehere · 25/09/2024 18:10

YANBU.

How 9% think you are, is baffling.

Wonder if they’re the type that think little of allergies and think people should seemingly “suck it up” for others.

Probably 9% of people think 'faaaamily' matters more than anything... the rest of us know how it sometimes works differently in the real world! Smile

TofuTart · 26/09/2024 09:21

We were meant to host Christmas this year but after MIL told me ‘it’s not down to you - it’s down to MY son and he will override you on this and you can take antihistamines

Take antihistamines?! As someone with allergies myself I'd be wanting to tell her to get stuffed.
She sounds absolutely foul.
Sometimes you can't "just take antihistamines."
Ignorant cow.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 26/09/2024 09:20

Moreacatperson · 26/09/2024 07:31

Exactly and they have 3 months to make alternative arrangements it’s not as if it is the 23 dec ! I found them all quite rude and very demanding in the past and I really wasn’t happy about doing it again. I’d been typing out messages then deleting trying to word it all nicely then not knowing what to say but her attitude gave me the confidence I needed to say ‘sorry but due to unforeseen circumstances we are no longer able to host Christmas this year - just wanted to let you all know in plenty of time so you can make alternative arrangements’

Good for you OP, but why didn't you just keep it factual - plans are being cancelled because of MIL's refusal to leave ddog at home?

MiaFeysImprobableBosom · 26/09/2024 09:20

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 26/09/2024 09:17

I wish more people understood this, thank you x

Asthmatic living with an asthmatic with COPD here — it's amazing how many people don't get it, and refuse to believe it when you tell them (if it's inconvenient to them).

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 26/09/2024 09:17

MiaFeysImprobableBosom · 26/09/2024 09:12

Not just the short-term risk of death (plus short-term discomfort, pain, inability to participate in activities, side-effects of drugs, inconvenience of seeking further medical care if necessary, etc.), either — there's also the long-term implications.

Asthma attacks cause lung damage. Scarred lungs work less well. Lung damage accumulates over a lifetime and can result in significant respiratory disability on top of existing asthma symptoms.

I wish more people understood this, thank you x

MiaFeysImprobableBosom · 26/09/2024 09:12

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 26/09/2024 06:53

FFS. Show your total ignorance about allergies in a couple of sentences.

I’ll say it slowly for those people who don’t seem to get it, and the willfully ignorant:

Allergies.
can.
kill.

My DH could take an antihistamine and he’ll probably still have an asthma attack (that could kill) that will need treatment.

She can take an antihistamine but she will still have an allergic reaction. She will still get sick. She will feel sick for days. Even with an antihistamine. The dog will leave hair and dander. That will cause allergic reactions later too. Or MIL can leave the fucking dog at home and not cause her DIL to be sick for days.

So yes. There are things called antihistamines, but there are also things like avoiding an allergen in the first place, which doctors will always tell you is the best course of action, because it’s the one where you won’t have an allergic reaction.

These threads always out the selfish fuckers who think allergy sufferers should make themselves ill for days for someone else’s pet choices. These threads out stupid people who think it’s as simple as taking a pill and it’s all better. No one needs to take the dog to Christmas dinner.

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Not just the short-term risk of death (plus short-term discomfort, pain, inability to participate in activities, side-effects of drugs, inconvenience of seeking further medical care if necessary, etc.), either — there's also the long-term implications.

Asthma attacks cause lung damage. Scarred lungs work less well. Lung damage accumulates over a lifetime and can result in significant respiratory disability on top of existing asthma symptoms.

thursdaymurderclub · 26/09/2024 09:03

surely if you are allergic this over-rides any other reasons for you not wanting the dog in your house? it isn't just the effects it will have on you on the day, its your day to day living in the house... it'll need a deep clean to get rid of lingering stray hairs etc. surely she would understand this? has she always been aware of this allergy? what do you do when you visit her house?

she sounds unhinged

TheCultureHusks · 26/09/2024 09:03

Honestly after all that shit the only thing I’d be sorting out is a conversation with DH where you say to him that either he puts her very straight on her position in your lives - ie very much below you, him and the children and not a person with any kind of deciding role in how you run your lives - either she understands that and gets to grips with it or she is out of all your lives - kids included, as you won’t be insulted and undermined in front of them. And never another Christmas!

phoenixrosehere · 26/09/2024 09:00

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 26/09/2024 07:49

It’s as if people don’t want to understand this.

Likely the types who say “… but it’s Christmas”. 🙄

phoenixrosehere · 26/09/2024 08:57

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 26/09/2024 05:27

There’s these things- called antihistamines. Christ one day out of 365 for a few hours.

You can tell from the thread op just doesn’t want to host- the dog is a smoke screen🤣just own it op.

Pretty rude and unkind to expect someone who is hosting for several days to have to be doped up to their eyeballs in antihistamines the whole time to accommodate one disrespectful person who could leave their pet at home.

Coruscations · 26/09/2024 08:46

Luxer · 25/09/2024 18:24

My SIL no longer speaks to us as she wanted to bring her dog to everything we hosted and we refused to have a barking untrained sausage dog in our home. We have 2 dogs who behave, don’t bother anyone and go to their spots when they’re asked. They don’t jump or slaver on visitors and don’t beg at the table either. After the second time of the demon sausage dog in our home we said no more. Of course SIL was invited but devil dog was banned after nipping my heels and peeing on a rug. Stand firm OP. MIL tried to claim it was SILs psychiatric assistance dog and said we were breaking the law refusing to have it in our home under the equality act 😂.

You should tell them to go to lawyers about starting legal action. At least it'll give the lawyers a good laugh.