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Feeling very uneasy and not sure what to do.

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BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 14:01

I can’t believe I’m typing this- it gets weird.

We’re visiting the UK from another country and staying in a 4-star hotel in central London for seven nights. Just me and my husband (both in our 40s), we’ve prepaid for our stay.

When we arrived to Room A, we realised we were looking right on to Thames Water building works so there was noise but we knew we’d be out and about all day so not overly bothered. However, after our first night, we were subjected to hammering and drilling and general building noise in the room next door to us. It was so bad that our wardrobes were vibrating. This was at 10am on a Sunday morning and we were going out for the day so figured we’d see if it was a once-off.

Morning two and the noise was worse and started at 8am. I was hoping it would be short-lived but after showering etc I walked into the hallway and it looks like a lot of rooms were having work done as room doors were open, there were debris bins outside and builders coming and going. The noise was unreal.

So I went to reception, explained the issue and was told they’d move us but didn’t have a room until other guests checked out so we were to pack our luggage and they’d move it all, and we could collect keys when we return.

We were perfectly happy with that, packed our bags and left the hotel (together) for the day a bit before 10am, collecting keys to Room B that night when we returned to the hotel after 11pm (perfectly sober! Before anyone asks). As promised, our luggage had been moved for us and the room was of the same category as A but without all the noise issues.
That was Monday.

This morning (Wednesday), we were having a late morning when our room phone rang and the General Manager asked if he could come up to speak to us.

On arrival, my husband met him at the door. I was sitting in the room (had assumed he’d come in but they started the conversation at the door).

He referenced that we’d asked for a move and asked if there was an issue with Room A. Husband reiterated that room was fine but noise was an issue, especially from the works within the hotel.

GM then goes on to say that housekeeping have reported an issue with Room A and did we know anything about it? Apparently, when housekeeping attended the room this morning (Wednesday- we had left it Monday morning) they found that someone had urinated heavily all over the bed, floor, and bathroom, soaking the quilt and mattress.

At this stage, I moved from where I was inside the room and asked the GM to step inside because this is a conversation I really didn’t want to have overheard. It’s a busy hotel and people were walking past.

At the risk of sounding like I’m protesting too much- I can categorically say that we did not do this. Just to be clear. We’re perfectly normal people who don’t go around pissing on carpets. There was no urine anywhere when we left the room on Monday morning, and we didn’t step foot in to it after that.

The GM had a notebook and said he needed to investigate the matter. I said fine and went through the timelines with him of our move on Monday. I think both my husband and I appeared quite shocked because we genuinely hadn’t expected this.

I asked if the urine had been present when the person who was moving our bags from Room A to B had been in, but he couldn’t tell me (so I’m assuming not as surely they’d have noticed?)

My husband and I were very factual- we’re sorry that hotel staff had to deal with this but we were not involved. At this stage, the GM changed tack and said he was more concerned from a wellbeing perspective and wanted to make sure that the person who did this didn’t have some kind of a medical issue that meant they required additional supports. We assured him that we do not have any medical issues.

He thanked us and left.

I’m feeling very uneasy. I’m so uncomfortable with the inference that we did this. We’re staying for another three nights and have pre-paid (over £2k) and the hassle and expense of finding a new hotel now would be a nightmare.

I get that the GM has to investigate issues like this, but I think coming to us without any clear timelines and not being able to answer the questions we had put us in a position almost like we’re having to prove we didn’t do this.

To be honest, this has really put a dampener on our trip. Walking through reception earlier, I felt embarrassed and that staff were looking at us. Probably an element of paranoia but it’s genuinely how I felt.
We’ve stayed in this hotel a number of times over the years and have never had any problems.

I’d love to know people’s thoughts on this one, especially if they’ve worked in hotels. I’m hoping this is the end of the matter but I’m wondering what a fair response would be if he comes to speak to us again?

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TheBerry · 30/09/2024 17:56

Personally I’d find that quite funny. It certainly wouldn’t spoil the trip or put me in a bad mood.

Providing the GM accepted my story and didn’t try to accuse me or anything.

Honestly can’t understand why people are suggesting you complain? If anything, you could complain about the noise spoiling your first couple of days.

Just reframe it as an amusing story to tell your friends later 🤷🏻‍♀️

ByPeachBiscuit · 29/09/2024 22:26

Would there be a record of your previous stays with no prior issues? I’d be equally as angry as you are OP.

OverthinkingOlive · 29/09/2024 21:31

Agree about you not leaving the hotel as it will make you look guilty, I feel bad for the manager. He's just doing his job and it can't have been an easy conversation to have. A complimentary bottle of wine would have been a nice touch though.

Did the room have an open window? I'm wondering if a cat / fox got in?

Delphiniumandlupins · 29/09/2024 21:18

I think the GM had to speak to you, simply because you were known to have been in the room. He probably found it a difficult conversation too. He seemed to backtrack quite quickly, although if you were the kind of people to pee all over a hotel room I'm not sure if you would admit it. I'm not sure whether he should have asked to come into your room or waited to be invited.

I do think an email, initially to GM, would be a good idea to express how disappointed you have been with the hotel, compared to previous stays. The building work shouldn't have been going on next to your room - what if you had wanted to stay in or work? He shouldn't have approached you about the damage to the room, two days after you vacated, without investigating when it occurred. He has made you feel uncomfortable about staying longer.

Tbh I don't think hotel staff will be looking at you askance. It's much more likely the builders were responsible.

pikkumyy77 · 29/09/2024 21:03

Mugaloaf · 29/09/2024 20:35

Did they look up? Maybe with all the building work going on, a pipe may have burst somewhere and it's dirty yellow water rather than urine?

Yes this seems far more likely!

Chocolatebuttonsandprosseco · 29/09/2024 20:59

I wouldn’t be angry either, he has to ask. Sounds like someone pissed all over the bed and said they found it like that.

StormingNorman · 29/09/2024 20:37

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 20:54

I’m still dwelling on this and feeling angrier.

Does anyone know who is generally above the GM of a large hotel? Is there typically a Director of Operations for each hotel, or do I need to approach the corporate office? At the moment, I want to send an email to document the issue. I also want to ask for an update on the “investigation”.

This is a hotel in a large chain- imagine Radisson or similar.

There’s probably a UK & Ireland manager for the group, but I wouldn’t complain.

He handled an awkward conversation awkwardly. Just get over your embarrassment. I can’t think why the three of you didn’t just have a giggle about it at the time.

Mugaloaf · 29/09/2024 20:35

Did they look up? Maybe with all the building work going on, a pipe may have burst somewhere and it's dirty yellow water rather than urine?

Chillimuma · 29/09/2024 20:30

It’s really rude but try not to let it bother you for too much longer if you possibly can.

as you’ve pointed out, it wasn’t there when your bags were moved, therefore you’re innocent. GM will later reflect on that and realise he’s been an idiot.

i think this will blow over

Onethinnyatatime · 29/09/2024 20:10

I don't quite understand why you're so upset. The General Manager was investigating the issue, not accusing you. He might have thought this was caused by someone with a medical condition as he suggested or that the problem existed before your arrival, etc. He probably could have handled it better by simply asking if the noise was the only issue with the room or if you noticed anything else. Once you confirmed it was just the noise, he should have left it at that, apologised again for the inconvenience, and maybe offered a complimentary bottle of wine.
Personally, I think this might have been caused by an animal, possibly a cat that somehow got in.
Try to laugh it off and consider it a funny travel anecdote. Don’t let it ruin your trip.

Welshmonster · 29/09/2024 19:46

Why wasn’t the room
cleaned on the same
day and put back into service as they were planning on leaving you in the room with all the noise etc. they can’t come back 2 days later and claim it was you.

Didimum · 26/09/2024 08:40

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

Not unless he was rude, aggressive or insisted I was the culprit. It doesn’t sound like he was. He’s the general manager and has a duty to investigate a very horrible incident in his hotel. It sounds as if he tackled the very awkward conversation as well as he could, and I doubt he’s ever encountered an incident like that before.

Regarding standing in the corridor – You invited him in and he came in. I don’t think it’s appropriate for him to ask to enter your room without you inviting him in first.

RhubarbieRhubarbie · 26/09/2024 08:12

I would ask for a calm word with the manager and say we are feeling really upset that you asked us, who have been guests in this hotel more than once without incident, if we did such a thing, especially when we were already undergoing the inconvenience of moving rooms after all the noise, and two, there are countless builders and other workers walking around. We feel really uncomfortable staying in the hotel and feel we may need to escalate this.

Express yourself, ger a bit of power back and hopefully get some VIP treatment / refunding.

It is absurd that he asked you given the circumstances, in my opinion.

Tapestree · 26/09/2024 08:09

I understand why you'd be shocked, but the manager had to raise this issue with you surely. Coming into your room could have seemed confrontational.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 26/09/2024 08:03

They surely would have noticed as soon as they walked in the room the first time to move your luggage if it had been in that condition at the time. And I would have expected them to strip the room at the same time, seems odd to leave that for a couple of days.

It also sounds like a very blunt approach by the GM, practically accusing you when he knew you had vacated the room days before.

Sounds more like someone with a grievance doing deliberate damage, a disgruntled builder maybe? Did they get told off for starting work so early and disturbing you?

IamnotSethRogan · 26/09/2024 07:48

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

I would be but also maybe he wasn't sure it was appropriate to come in the room especially as it was in the morning and people might not be ready for the day.

This situation isn't very comfortable for the Manager but he does have to ask. There might not be anything in the GM handbook about how to ask guests who are still staying in the hotel if they pissed everywhere so he's winging it a bit.

It's a shit situation but I'm sure he realises that you're just not the sort of people to piss all over a room, especially when you're still staying there.

Hopefully this will be resolved and it will be one of those funny stories you tell eachother.

underused · 26/09/2024 07:34

Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

I'd be absolutely fuming tbh! As the OP said, he hasn't exactly thought it through before speaking to them, and I'd be feeling judged every time I walked through reception.

I would also be writing a strongly worded email to someone higher up in the chain, explaining the time line and letting them know how upset I was about it.

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

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Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

ThisPresetIsSelected · 25/09/2024 23:45

Don't let it spoil your trip. I bet you'll laugh about it in future! If that's that and they haven't pestered you again, I'd just resolve to send an email about it when you get back. Two days after you vacated the room, they are clearly clutching at straws.

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 20:54

I’m still dwelling on this and feeling angrier.

Does anyone know who is generally above the GM of a large hotel? Is there typically a Director of Operations for each hotel, or do I need to approach the corporate office? At the moment, I want to send an email to document the issue. I also want to ask for an update on the “investigation”.

This is a hotel in a large chain- imagine Radisson or similar.

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Saz12 · 25/09/2024 16:16

That's awful! If anyone says anything more, I'd tell them exactly how ridiculous and offensive this is.

ThisPresetIsSelected · 25/09/2024 16:14

How do you get the bed, floor AND bathroom? Surely multiple incidents?!

I think you'd have some idea if it'd been there a day or two, or was fresh, as well.
How gross. I'm a bit sympathetic with the hotel and don't blame them for asking but that should have been discreetly AND after investigating who had access and when.

ForSereneBluePombear · 25/09/2024 16:07

What a shambles. Of course assuming neither of you urinated everywhere in room A. Firstly ridiculous noise, then being asked if you damaged the previous room. I’d ask for a partial refund if I were you. You should ask if they can see on CCTV, there should be cameras in the hallways, and double check who had access to the room, if they haven’t already done that. Could the room have been left open for anyone to walk in such an another guest etc

Cosycover · 25/09/2024 15:59

I'd ask to speak to him again. The way he has went about this is out of order.