We know all the anti Labour posts are really just about VAT on school fees!

I'm not advocating for unpopular policies, although given the furore over the WFA it seems Labour are adept at developing both popular and unpopular policies.

I am advocating for policies which don't have unintended consequences. This one has scores of those. Your analysis is light-touch at best.

Ousted by whom and how @Meadowfinch ?
I get you don’t like Labour being in government, but how would this work?

There aren’t, there really aren’t. I think the tax evaded by large corps was about £5bn last year which is absolutely dwarfed by small business’s £26bn! You are barking up the wrong tree!

Well I do care. 100K in gifts the first 3 months in power? For a party voting in on a platform of integrity and doing it differently?

@Carrotmccarrotface I'm glad someone has corrected this as your earlier post isn't the case

@Sarahconnor1 points out what the issue is

If a pensioner has an income of £218.50 weekly, they can't get pension credit.

So let's think about that. £25 council tax, £40 food, £25 insurances £10 water, £10 TV, phone, broadband, £15 clothing, £20 household wear and tear, £40 heat and light.

It's very very tight. All it will take is a cold snap, and millions of pensioners will be in trouble. And Labour knows that.

The unions aren't happy. Many party members aren't happy. If it goes wrong, I forecast Starmer will be ousted by April - when the winter mortality figures are published.

When are they going after the huge businesses that dodge tax? There's plenty of those.

What I hope is that Labour start again with a blank piece of paper on tax and benefits. If you were redesigning the tax and benefits system would you have a wfa? Or would you up the pension at the same time as increasing the basic rate of tax to pay for it, knowing wealthier pensioners will pay higher tax on that pension increase.

You are correct. Sorry.
However ‘excessive’ is a matter of opinion.

There are people who do not support Labour's policies including the VAT on private school fees. They do not want a large, nanny state or high taxes which will damage growth and businesses, especially the private ones. It is not wrong to think like this and as the current political situation stands following the election, it means I, and others, will not support a Labout government or their policies.

Unpopular policies are harder to implement and had better be really, really important. And if you think popular policies are a bad idea just for being popular, then you have no understanding of politics.

There is no evidence other than the ICS that they won't be easily absorbed. Demographic changes ensure it. We'll see, though, over the next couple of years.

There is of course an element of ideology in every policy. This one is great on every level. An flawless way of raising tax which targets people with disposable income, almost all of whom will simply pay up, and the few that don't get to enjoy what 93% of people accept.

We should recognise that the election was more about the rejection of the Conservatives. Add up the Lib Dem, Reform, Green, SNP and Plaid votes, they exceeded the Labour vote.

Though I agree about the VAT on school fees complainers.

Whoever mentioned 'scrapped the 40 new hospitals'
Rachel Reeves has said when she looked in the department budget allocated for this building project, there were ZERO POUNDS allocated - so in fact the Tories lied about building the hospitals in the first place.

No you can't.

The new basic state pension is £221 per week so £11,500 per year.
The cut off for pension credit is £218.15 per week.

That is what much of the anger is about, the threshold sitting at such a low level.

As a parent of a private school child, a lot of the parents at our school have moved their child from state as state was failing their child. Too rowdy, too violent. It’s these parents who will suffer. They can’t really afford to send their child to private school but thought it was that or their child school refusing so felt they had no choice. These children will definitely suffer due to this policy.

Personally, I can afford it and it doesn’t bother me.

Please show the data to support 1%

a) policies shouldn't be in a manifesto because they're 'popular'. That's the very opposite of how policies should be designed.

b) there is already evidence that they will not be 'easily absorbed' into the existing system.

It's clear the plan is ideological because if they truly wanted this to work, Labour would have gone about it entirely differently.

I doubt it as a policy. Overall it could be damaging

This trend of accusing anyone who isn’t a labour sycophant of being a tori or a bot is tedious.

Plenty of people didn’t vote for either of them. In fact plenty of people didn’t vote at all. And plenty voted labour to get the tories out, not because they thought labour were the answer.

Yes. But that's not how tax works. The handful of people who will have to slum it in state schools with the other 93% will be OK. Overall, it's beneficial.

If you are on the basic state pension you can apply for pension credit and you still get the wfa

On a basic state pension? It's low

Why did Labour do a report on 4000 deaths in 2017 and refuse to do an impact assessment this time?

Newsflash - not all people that hate Labour are middle class or wealthy!

But you could be talking about anybody. Plenty of non-pensioner working households cannot afford to turn the heating on. On average pensioners have more disposable income than any other demographic.