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cardigankitty · 25/09/2024 12:24

DD23 stayed at friend's last night. Woke up to hear friend's boyfriend, who lives there rent free, beating her up. Flatmate and mutual friend says this happens every night but 'she doesn't want to get involved'.

DD wants to help but doesn't know how. She spoke to friend who said she loves her boyfriend and that he just gets angry sometimes. Refuses to countenance possibility of going to women's aid. Have told DD that he will escalate until he ends up hospitalising her friend or killing her.

Can't really think of what DD can do. I offered to get in touch with friend's parents - DD said friend's dad not in picture and mum lives nearby but is moving away soon, and she doesn't even know her name to contact her. If DD called police, would they come round? Friend would deny it presumably and then abuse would get worse, so not sure if that's the right option.

So worried about this girl now, the boyfriend sounds like absolute scum.

What's depressing too is that apparently this is common knowledge in friend group though DD only just found out but 'no one wants to get involved'.

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FasterMichelin · 25/09/2024 17:25

Sadly her friend will need the see the light herself. If kids arent involved, and if she is defensive of her relationship, then no one else can do anything.

How scary for everyone involved. What a monster. I'm going to guess she witnessed or experienced abuse as a child, and therefore thinks it's normal or thinks it's a sign of love.

Saltedbutter · 25/09/2024 17:20

PepaWepa · 25/09/2024 17:06

This. I can't believe the amount of posts shaming op's daughter for not stepping in. She was probably terrified herself.

I don’t anybody is necessarily ‘shaming’ her. Nobody had to go wading into the room but I’m mortified none of them called the police.

PepaWepa · 25/09/2024 17:07

Police don't often step in anyway in situations like this. It will take for the gf who's being abused to do something, and even then, she will require evidence.

PepaWepa · 25/09/2024 17:06

ginasevern · 25/09/2024 13:06

They should have called the police but I think it's incredibly poor advice to suggest the girls should have waded in and confronted the attacker. Men are way stronger than women and this man is obviously a violent bastard.

This. I can't believe the amount of posts shaming op's daughter for not stepping in. She was probably terrified herself.

PiggleToes · 25/09/2024 16:58

cardigankitty · 25/09/2024 16:25

Our local women’s aid have advised not to call the police unless the abuse is happening at that moment. They said that dd should meet with friend and very gently make it clear she is there for her if she needs her but to be very careful as friend may fall out with her and it’s important friend doesn’t end up isolated. An awful situation and I wish there was more we could do.

she also advised to get a Clare’s Law disclosure as that could encourage friend to leave if she discovers previous convictions.

Oh gosh such a tricky and awful situation. Women’s aid would surely have the best informed advice so I would follow that

cardigankitty · 25/09/2024 16:25

Our local women’s aid have advised not to call the police unless the abuse is happening at that moment. They said that dd should meet with friend and very gently make it clear she is there for her if she needs her but to be very careful as friend may fall out with her and it’s important friend doesn’t end up isolated. An awful situation and I wish there was more we could do.

she also advised to get a Clare’s Law disclosure as that could encourage friend to leave if she discovers previous convictions.

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Caerulea · 25/09/2024 13:24

I'm so saddened that, at the very least, no one called the police in the moment. Sure men are stronger but bursting into the room with the police on the phone would very likely have made him stop & probably leg it. Of course he might not & it's a risk but probably less likely than him putting her in hospital or killing her. I've stepped in to some pretty awful situations where being female definitely helped - shitting it inside but, generally, cowardly men are terrified of outwardly confident women.

As for the housemate's boyf? What a sack of shit! He's not even protecting his own partner. And they all know about this? Christ this is awful.

Good luck with whatever path you choose & worth keeping a check on your DD cos that would have been very traumatising to hear

Depressedbarbie · 25/09/2024 13:18

I think people are being very hard on your daughter - it's well known that getting involved can sometimes make things worse for the victim and she's young, and come across it for the fiest time, and shes not ignoring it and she is sensibly wanting advice. I think that reporting it now, and making making a plan for what to do if it happens again, I.e. to call the police then, iw the best thjng to do.

ThePoshUns · 25/09/2024 13:14

D it happens again please tell your daughter to keep herself safe and ring 999

ThePoshUns · 25/09/2024 13:13

The police could take statements from your daughter and the other people in the flat regarding what they heard and if they saw their friend with injuries. That would allow the police to arrest the boyfriend and afford the opportunity to speak to the victim and try and get a statement off her.
Reality is though if she refuses it's not likely to go anywhere unless he's got previous.

PiggleToes · 25/09/2024 13:08

Oh gosh how awful. I would definitely call the police; but if she doesn’t want to press charges I don’t know what they will do :(.

ginasevern · 25/09/2024 13:06

They should have called the police but I think it's incredibly poor advice to suggest the girls should have waded in and confronted the attacker. Men are way stronger than women and this man is obviously a violent bastard.

Worrywater · 25/09/2024 13:03

I would also go with calling the police. It will likely be the end of a friendship but I think this is worth losing a friend over. The alternative is ignoring that her friend keeps getting beaten and giving the message that it's ok.

I see the point that the friend will lose a support and become more isolated but your DD can tell her that she will be there at the other end of the phone in a month, six months or three years if she wants to reach out. What else can she do?

I'm sure this is extremely common for the police to deal with. I know they can put flags on peoples homes who are at risk of DV so any calls eg silent ones, they know to attend very quickly and the address comes up right away. I don't know if they can do that without her consent but I still think this being on the record is best. It may be helpful one day in building a picture up.

cardigankitty · 25/09/2024 13:00

I completely agree, I’m a little bit sickened by the flatmate knowing about it and doing nothing. Apparently she’s scared of the boyfriend so has HER boyfriend to stay regularly- who also does nothing.

DD was too shocked in the moment to do anything and very scared but she wants to do something now. I’m going to call our local women’s aid this afternoon to see what they advise, but doing nothing is not an option.

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ThePoshUns · 25/09/2024 12:57

Why didn't they do something at the time? I'm baffled that a grown adult would sit there and do nothing listening to a friend get beaten up. The least they should have done is call 999.
Far easier for police to deal with it there and then than after the event.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 25/09/2024 12:55

InandOutlander · 25/09/2024 12:53

Oh give over. Confronting a violent man while he's all geared up to hurt women isn't an easy thing to do. Not to mention what might it achieve? He knew they were there and that didn't stop him, so why would being confronted? More likely he'd then take it out on the GF.

Nobody's said anyone else in the house should confront him. Call the police, let them deal with the scumbag.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 25/09/2024 12:54

Please report to police. He may well already be known to them.
And you or your dd can ask for a Clare’s Law disclosure which this poor woman might take notice of.
If someone was being attacked in the street would these girls ignore that too?

InandOutlander · 25/09/2024 12:53

araiwa · 25/09/2024 12:42

Her "friends" just sit there listening to her getting beaten??

Ffs they're as bad as he is

Oh give over. Confronting a violent man while he's all geared up to hurt women isn't an easy thing to do. Not to mention what might it achieve? He knew they were there and that didn't stop him, so why would being confronted? More likely he'd then take it out on the GF.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 25/09/2024 12:53

It could certainly get worse, and reporting can enrage the perpetrator, that's not a reason not to do it, but it's naive to think that's not a serious consideration. I would have called the police at the time, but it probably would have ended the friendship, which would leave the friend with less support. Since it's after the fact, depending on what exactly they heard and if there's any physical proof, I might call women's aide first to get some advice on how to support the friend and how to approach things with the police, see if there's some way to report and have it on record without isolating her friend or if indeed what they have to report will result in anything being done. If there's physical evidence the friend couldn't deny I'd go straight to the police, but if what they heard could be explained away if friend takes his side I'd tread more carefully. It definetly needs to be reported, but I'd try women's aide first to see if they have any advise.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 25/09/2024 12:51

What would prompt her to call the police if not sitting there listening to a friend being violently attacked? It's not a brave step, just call them and hope they come quickly. Christ, it's depressing reading things like this.

Zaap · 25/09/2024 12:51

Please encourage your daughter to call the police. I was of a similar age when I lived with my violent ex DP and he was doing the same to me every night. We lived in a block of flats and all of the neighbours knew what was going on and did nothing. Ex used to lock me in our top floor flat and take all forms of communication including my phone and even the wire for our internet router so I couldn’t contact anyone or get out if there were a fire. I wish someone had called the police for me as I was far too scared and could have died several times.

GladAllOver · 25/09/2024 12:49

Of course you must call the police, when it happens and not after the event when she may deny it.
But be prepared to lose her friendship as she may resent the interference.
It is so sad that some women can accept this treatment.

araiwa · 25/09/2024 12:42

Her "friends" just sit there listening to her getting beaten??

Ffs they're as bad as he is

poppyzbrite4 · 25/09/2024 12:39

I'm surprised she didn't think to call the police when the crime was being committed. The friend could have sustained serious injuries or been killed, strangulation can kill in minutes.

Nothingmatters · 25/09/2024 12:38

Yes I don't understand why people are sitting listening to a woman being assaulted and they aren't phoning the police while the assault is going on. How can they just sit there for heavens sake?
Not doing anything while this attack is going on is giving this violent man the message other people consider his behaviour normal.

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