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AIBU to think that many people over count their daily steps?

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SteppingMum · 25/09/2024 06:37

I have a very sedentary job. I’m at my desk pretty much 9-5 with an hour lunch break, then 45 minute drive there and back each morning.

I struggle to naturally get in 3,000 steps a day without purposely trying to. I can get up to maybe 8-9K if i go on a walk after dinner for an hour.

My colleague has a very similar lifestyle to me and often expresses her shock at how little I move and she easily accumulates 10-15k a day. She doesn’t go to the gym or have small children or a dog that needs walking (neither do I).

So yesterday i did an experiment. Let’s compare steps from the moment we clock in at 8.45 until we go for lunch at 12.30.

My step count was 484 and hers was something like just under 3K.

The difference? She wears her counter on her wrist whereas I wear mine on my bra strap (I have an old fashioned clip on pedometer that only starts counting after three consecutive steps).

She drinks countless cups of tea in the morning (not getting up and making it herself - delivered by colleagues to the desk), has more phone calls to answer and typing to do than I do, and in general talks with her hands a lot.

I think a lot of people who wear their step counters on their wrist are having their daily steps over counted.

I want to challenge people today to try and move their smart watch to their trouser pocket or fasten to their waistband somehow to see if my theory is correct!

So AIBU to think that people are being lied to by their step counters when worn on their wrists? I know that I tend to use my hands more than my feet and will be wearing a wrist strap with my counter today as an experiment. Can’t wait to clock in and get 3K steps without even moving from my desk!

Also this isn’t a request for advice about how to get more steps in. I know I can get a desk stepper exercise thing or walk at lunch etc. I know what I should be doing. I’m a healthy weight and otherwise seemingly in good health etc so not too motivated just now to increase fitness but I know what I can do to increase steps when I want to.

My slight irritation is with my colleague thinking she’s so much more active than I am just because she moves her hands more than I do. 😁

OP posts:
Womanofcustard · 26/09/2024 18:15

This is an eye opener for me. Why would you wear a pedometer on your wrist?
i have an old pedometer, fits on waistband or trouser pocket, seems to be fairly accurate, and differentiates between steps and ‘active steps’

KeyboardMash · 26/09/2024 18:14

I honestly believe step counters are the biggest swizz going. Everyone I know seems to have one, but it hasn't made a jot of difference to anyone's health or size that I can see. Disclaimer: not scientific, based entirely on biased observations. I'll change my mind if I ever see any evidence that they have a beneficial impact, but I really believe for the vast majority of people it's just something companies sell to us which gives us the false comfort that we're doing something about our health.

Washingupdone · 26/09/2024 18:07

I had a watch device also years ago. I sat down one morning to mark exam papers, it turned out that each movement I took to give a tick to someone’s work gave me a step, looked good but gained nothing health wise for me.
Walking with a friend, on the same distance she had a third more steps because she took smaller ones or was it because she had it hanging round her neck so the counting device was bouncing on her ample front.
I keep my phone still, in the tight pocket of my jeans every day so that I can compare to my satisfaction if I have walked a lot or not, oh and I don’t have it on me when I do gym.

itwillnotopen · 26/09/2024 18:03

This is going back a few years, I'm sure newer models would be better, but my Fitbit used to count steps when I was sat on the floor at work patting babies backs or tummies to soothe them to sleep. So definitely not accurate!

Oldraver · 26/09/2024 17:50

I used to regularily do 30,000.

I worked packing books 1000;s a day into boxes so lots of little side to side movements

I reckon they accounted for 80% of my 'steps'

PurpleYarnivore · 26/09/2024 17:49

I have an Apple Watch , I knit for a living , I often clock up well over 15,000 steps a day while sitting on my sofa making hats and watching Netflix .
To add, I go to the gym several times a week and record that exercise separately and use my watch mainly for sleep tracking and answering calls etc

LoveLifeBeHappy · 26/09/2024 17:45

SteppingMum · 25/09/2024 06:37

I have a very sedentary job. I’m at my desk pretty much 9-5 with an hour lunch break, then 45 minute drive there and back each morning.

I struggle to naturally get in 3,000 steps a day without purposely trying to. I can get up to maybe 8-9K if i go on a walk after dinner for an hour.

My colleague has a very similar lifestyle to me and often expresses her shock at how little I move and she easily accumulates 10-15k a day. She doesn’t go to the gym or have small children or a dog that needs walking (neither do I).

So yesterday i did an experiment. Let’s compare steps from the moment we clock in at 8.45 until we go for lunch at 12.30.

My step count was 484 and hers was something like just under 3K.

The difference? She wears her counter on her wrist whereas I wear mine on my bra strap (I have an old fashioned clip on pedometer that only starts counting after three consecutive steps).

She drinks countless cups of tea in the morning (not getting up and making it herself - delivered by colleagues to the desk), has more phone calls to answer and typing to do than I do, and in general talks with her hands a lot.

I think a lot of people who wear their step counters on their wrist are having their daily steps over counted.

I want to challenge people today to try and move their smart watch to their trouser pocket or fasten to their waistband somehow to see if my theory is correct!

So AIBU to think that people are being lied to by their step counters when worn on their wrists? I know that I tend to use my hands more than my feet and will be wearing a wrist strap with my counter today as an experiment. Can’t wait to clock in and get 3K steps without even moving from my desk!

Also this isn’t a request for advice about how to get more steps in. I know I can get a desk stepper exercise thing or walk at lunch etc. I know what I should be doing. I’m a healthy weight and otherwise seemingly in good health etc so not too motivated just now to increase fitness but I know what I can do to increase steps when I want to.

My slight irritation is with my colleague thinking she’s so much more active than I am just because she moves her hands more than I do. 😁

Focusing solely on "steps" is a waste of time.

A 30-45 minute workout offers more comprehensive benefits, such as increased strength, higher calorie burn, and improved cardiovascular fitness, all in less time than it would take to achieve the same impact through walking alone

CharlotteBog · 25/09/2024 11:07

go for a walk most days and I only count steps when I'm actively walking, not those I do when I'm hanging the washing out etc

I bought a Garmin from someone and hadn't changed the settings to suit me.

I was surprised and amused to see that it automatically logged me hanging out the washing as 'an activity'. The GPS was quite funny. I guess my heart rate must have gone over a certain threshold (either I found it very exciting or I was speed pegging!). Needless to say I turned the auto activity off. I'm quite highly strung and would probably end up with lots of tiny activities a day from bounding up the stairs, putting the washing up away or scraping the dinner plates into the food bin.

MrsAvocet · 25/09/2024 10:30

I go for a walk most days and I only count steps when I'm actively walking, not those I do when I'm hanging the washing out etc. Actually I'm not particularly interested in step count but I measure distance and the phone app I use estimates steps as well so I do look at it. It's reasonably accurate - I've manually counted my steps as a comparison - and I need to walk about 4 miles to get to 10 000 steps. And I'm only 5ft so have a fairly short stride length. I do find it hard to believe that most people who claim they are doing 10k steps per day are are walking the equivalent of 4 miles unless they have a very physical job or are going for a walk/run as part of their day.
There's no doubt that moving more in general is good for us but I think people can be lulled into a false sense of security in thinking that they are active enough if they're getting high step counts from devices, at least some of which are of dubious accuracy, when they're not actually raising their heart rate.

rainfallpurevividcat · 25/09/2024 10:01

To be clear, I don't do 10,000 steps and then think that's a good workout. I use my tracker to see how generally active I've been. I also go to the gym three times a week and run outdoors once a week, plus do a yoga class, walking is not my only activity. I also look at resting heart rate, calories burned and my weight. None of it is completely accurate but it is a guide.

But 3 x 20 minute walks = 10,000 steps makes sense to me with average stride length (0.67 metres). 6.7km or 4 miles, about an hour a day, so my FitBit is measuring it with reasonable accuracy.

It's a baseline for me, when I do cardio in the gym or go for a run or a longer dog walk I get more steps, obviously.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/09/2024 09:56

mindutopia · 25/09/2024 09:49

I have a garmin that I wear on my wrist and have an office job. It’s rare for me to have less than 10k steps, often more like 15k. I don’t accumulate them during the day when I’m sitting. It’s mornings and evenings. I also don’t ‘exercise’ as in go to the gym or go for a run. I’m just never sitting down except at work. On days I do actually exercise, it’s easy to get 22k steps or more. I think she’s simply more active than you, sorry!

Edited

I used to rack up a lot of steps while working in a library - back and forth, back and forth, shelving the books, etc.

helpfulperson · 25/09/2024 09:55

I agree as well. Like 5 portions of fruit and veg these are made up numbers designed to motivate us but 10000 is high. I only hit this on the days I walk for an hour. 15 to 20 mins is a realistic target for most people.

TheLever · 25/09/2024 09:51

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/09/2024 09:18

Talking of steps, in a recent Michael Mosley TV prog. (screened after he died) he said that if everybody would walk for just 15 minutes a day it’d make a significant difference.

I was surprised, but it occurred to me that the very idea of 10,000 steps may well be putting people off. If they don’t have the time or the inclination to do 10,000, maybe they think it’s not worth bothering at all.

I really wish this was spoken about more because it is so true. 10k is completely unrealistic for a lot of people (and made up!) and 15-30 mins a day doing something purposefully active raising your heart rate is very good for you

mindutopia · 25/09/2024 09:49

I have a garmin that I wear on my wrist and have an office job. It’s rare for me to have less than 10k steps, often more like 15k. I don’t accumulate them during the day when I’m sitting. It’s mornings and evenings. I also don’t ‘exercise’ as in go to the gym or go for a run. I’m just never sitting down except at work. On days I do actually exercise, it’s easy to get 22k steps or more. I think she’s simply more active than you, sorry!

fossilgap · 25/09/2024 09:45

Terracata · 25/09/2024 07:02

They are when you do lots of them in a row.

I’d say if your steps are raising your heart rate

not just a slow dog walk

StoneColdAlibi · 25/09/2024 09:43

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 25/09/2024 08:30

I've also never been over 30k steps and I hike.

At 40,000 you've done the best part of 20 miles. And anyone who walks knows how that feels.

The only times I do over 30,000 steps are at festivals, where you spend all day/night either walking or dancing.

godmum56 · 25/09/2024 09:42

IWantKateGarrawaysHair · 25/09/2024 08:28

Weirdly whenever I iron (rarely tbh) my watch says I have done at least 2000 steps for about an hour of ironing. If I wore my watch on my right hand I would understand as that's the hand I iron with - but I don't, I wear it on my left. So I dont move it much when ironing and obviously I am mainly standing still!

Never understand it 😆

Its possible its the weight shift being counted even though you aren't actually picking your feet up.

RedPony1 · 25/09/2024 09:38

My Garmin doesn't register arm movements, i cant cheat it unfortunately 😂

blackfushia · 25/09/2024 09:34

WinterFrog · 25/09/2024 06:49

That's hilarious! Otherwise, do you find it helpful? Does it track your sleep, etc?

I do find it helpful. It tracks sleep, heart rate and all the things an apple watch might do but is more discrete. The only downside is a monthly charge to stay connected to the app but I’ve invested now so will continue paying.

Biggirlnow · 25/09/2024 09:24

I suspect they're both inaccurate. I have a fitbit and it's useless when I go to my dance class - only records about 50 steps in 2hrs! My friend's Oura ring on her finger isn't accurate for jogging. I know someone else who's gadget doesn't work for rowing.

Basically I have a poor opinion of most of these gadgets.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/09/2024 09:18

Talking of steps, in a recent Michael Mosley TV prog. (screened after he died) he said that if everybody would walk for just 15 minutes a day it’d make a significant difference.

I was surprised, but it occurred to me that the very idea of 10,000 steps may well be putting people off. If they don’t have the time or the inclination to do 10,000, maybe they think it’s not worth bothering at all.

CharlotteBog · 25/09/2024 09:15

AGoingConcern · 25/09/2024 08:48

I genuinely cannot imagine dedicating 60 seconds in my day to thinking about another person’s step count, much less discussing it or typing out a whole post.

Just stop discussing steps with your coworker, OP. What is the allure in that topic?

You didn't need to click on the thread, it was quite clear what it was about.
It has garnered a conversation. That's what MN does.

AnImaginaryCat · 25/09/2024 09:14

It's nothing new OP - if you just read any thread on here about step count to know some people are full on deluded about how active they are.

I've never forgotten the thread which someone started about how to manage to get time to increase her step count (She rarely went over 5,000)

The thread obviously attracted the usual condescending "it's so easy, i get 10,000,000 steps a day without trying" crowd without actually giving the OP some ideas. But my favourite was the poor deluded poster who was convinced she was an natural Olympian, because she got over 3,000 steps "just making breakfast" (and it was definitely not measuring any movement.)

doodleschnoodle · 25/09/2024 09:13

My Apple Watch seems pretty accurate. I am usually between 10-15k steps a day but I have a standing desk and walking pad that I usually do 5k+ of those on a day, plus I do the school run there and back which is about 5k and then walk the dog etc. It's always consistent with what I've done. On days where I do basically nothing, it reflects that!

GoldenLegend · 25/09/2024 09:10

My Garmin won’t sync to my phone so they count my steps separately. The Garmin gets put on first thing when I get up and counts 1000 or so a day more than the phone so I reckon both are accurate.