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Is my friends publisher being a bitch?

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KandiKane1 · 24/09/2024 18:49

I am a fairly experienced editor and self publisher (Amazon and Google). My friend has currently finished his first novel (he's Syrian, the book is in English), and his old university professor who is also a friend of their family has pretty much taken over with the publishing and editing of his work. For context this woman has no experience in the book world apart from having a PHD in literature (Arabic), which she teaches. She is planning to sell the book for £70 per copy and is talking about going to India as it will be "cheaper" to get it published there. I voiced my concerns to my friend that this was all abit weird and pointless as most of it can be done online now and published simultaneously in 70 countries. After discussing it, he was eager to have me on board as an extra editor and publisher (we explicitly stated to his professor we were not trying to replace her), and jointly drafted a nice letter asking for me to join the process. She completely flipped out, screaming to him that I was trying to take control, she didn't even want to talk things through she just blocked me completely. He tried talking to her and she said I "might" be able to help her in the future, which sounds to me like I'd be expected to be some token lackey. Am I being unreasonable for wanting to help my friend, or is she being a controlling and jealous B? I don't know if they've discussed money but I'd be willing to help him out for free, just to give him a start

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ThisOldThang · 24/09/2024 19:18

I thought all non-mainstream author books were printed to order these days?

Why waste money getting a whole batch printed when Amazon can just print a copy overnight?

Friendofdennis · 24/09/2024 19:16

Gosh I would stay out of it. Who on earth is going to buy a novel for £70 ? When it fails to sell he will have to rethink the whole thing won’t he

twentysevendresses · 24/09/2024 19:16

I can't get past the '£70 a copy' 😲😯

Is it written in dragons blood and printed in gold leaf?? 😬

Nothing of any use to add though...sorry!

NoSquirrels · 24/09/2024 19:14

KandiKane1 · 24/09/2024 19:11

My thoughts exactly, £20 is a stretch for most casual readers, for an unknown author and limited audience

Edited

Even £20 is £10-£15 too much.

SauviGone · 24/09/2024 19:14

Do you not think it interesting that he didn't approach you in the first place? Given you're already an experienced editor and self publisher.

It sounds to me a bit like he's approached this woman, she's already given him a lot of her time and advice, they've had it all planned out and now you've gegged in on it, to the point of "jointly drafting a letter".

He's either a really dim and pathetic wet lettuce, or he's played a blinder and has two women fighting over who is going to do the most work for him for free.

NoSquirrels · 24/09/2024 19:13

Is she his publisher - has he signed the rights to her, for payment or for free? Is there a contract setting out the details?

If so, then she calls the shots on all decisions.

If she’s just ‘assisting’ him to publish, then he should tell her he doesn’t want her assistance, as she clearly knows bog all about publishing.

£70 for a debut novel by an unknown name? Blimey.

YaCannyKickYaGrannyInTheShin · 24/09/2024 19:13

Leaving aside the ridiculous price

Why are you and this woman tripping over yourselves to help this man, to the point where you're accusing her of being a bitch (whilst making bitchy comments about her on here), and she's getting angry that you're muscling in.

He must be walking round thinking he's the cock of the North!

Just back off and leave them to it.

KandiKane1 · 24/09/2024 19:11

Sethera · 24/09/2024 19:09

£70 a copy? I'd never pay that for a novel. Who are they expecting to buy it?

My thoughts exactly, £20 is a stretch for most casual readers, for an unknown author and limited audience

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Sethera · 24/09/2024 19:09

£70 a copy? I'd never pay that for a novel. Who are they expecting to buy it?

KandiKane1 · 24/09/2024 19:06

SauviGone · 24/09/2024 19:01

I don't know if they've discussed money but I'd be willing to help him out for free

she said I "might" be able to help her in the future, which sounds to me like I'd be expected to be some token lackey

What's the difference?

My personal difference is, would I be part of the decision process like for pricing and advice, discussions with both her and my friend equally. Or would I be there as some sort of "email this publisher for me, dear"

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SauviGone · 24/09/2024 19:01

I don't know if they've discussed money but I'd be willing to help him out for free

she said I "might" be able to help her in the future, which sounds to me like I'd be expected to be some token lackey

What's the difference?

KandiKane1 · 24/09/2024 19:01

For my friend, I don't mind being a lackey and guiding him through the process. My quibble is if Mrs. PHDs intention was to use me as a lapdog just to keep my friend happy and look like the "good guy". For example if I said £70 was too high, would I be listened to and would there be a discussion about it, probably not with her attitude

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YaCannyKickYaGrannyInTheShin · 24/09/2024 18:56

Well if he's promised to pay her, it's unsurprising she's angry as it looks like you're muscling in and willing to do it for free.

Which is also being a lackey, is it not?

AceOfCups · 24/09/2024 18:51

Make sure he doesn’t sign away any rights to her