AIBU to be irritated at new neighbour (parking)

@FrozenLimeMargarita by any chance do you live in SE London like myself, perhaps around the Telly Hill area?

Is it permit parking? Each house on my Victorian Road has two parking permits per house. If there is a third car, they have to park somewhere else.

You could ask council to change road into permit/resident parking only if you don't have enough space.

That's ridiculous, I'm guessing a street meeting won't cut it but start with that, then it's go to the council to ask for controlled bays, max two spaces per household (a neighbour can still hand their permit to another neighbour.

For people saying ok where can this family park. Commercial vehicles that take up more than one space shouldn't be on residential streets, you need to arrange for suitable parking eg workplace. Extra vehicles like campers again you need to pay for storage

Just because something is legal doesn't make it reasonable though does it? Are you honestly saying you think it is ok for one family to take up more than half the parking for a whole street? Really?
Ok, so where you would draw the line? Would it be ok for them to take up 75% of the spaces? Or what if they bought even more cars and tonka trucks and maybe a minibus or 2 and filled up all of the spaces so no-one else in the street could park? Would that still be ok? What if they then bought a few more, so they had to use the spaces on the next street? All legal according to you, but can you really not see how unbelievably selfish and entitled this sort of behaviour is or how shit that would be for everyone else???

I get your irritation too.

We live in a mews development. All fine one space each, one visitor and a turning circle to get in and out.

One owner, inherited her house from her DM, and as a landlord rented the house to a business for their staff.

The three staff, have three cars plus visitors. They park two cars tandem across the turning circle. Has prevented deliveries, ambulance etc.

Deeds say ‘full and free access’ across the area of the turning circle. Despite complaints to tenants, landlord, business, repeatedly asking them to move for a delivery. It continues.

Landlord says she owns the patch in the middle and produced an agents plan from when she bought. She does, for maintenance but not for parking.

Noone is interested, the deeds seem worthless. Infuriating.

Doesn't, not defiant ffs.
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Can't afford? Where I live the vast majority of the housing, even up to very high end, defiant have off road parking. It's a Victorian town. Even where houses are set back from the road they have garden, not drives. I assume there are planning reasons they don't switch it.
What an ignorant view point, both about housing stock and in your attitudes to people you see as beneath you. The little people shouldn't complain, right?

I agree with this definately, but twts parking in bays to save them, while leaving their driveways empty for hours at a time don't help matters. We even had a particular ignorant one who left his driveway empty while on holiday, and had the people they went with (who don't even live here) park in all of the bays for 2 weeks while they went away. This was so they could come back and swoop their 2 cars into their empty driveway at the end of the holiday. I have no words for this level of cheeky fu*ery.

Not really practical in terraced residential streets, is it?

Also, the housing crisis needs to be tackled at warp speed by building like whoa. Five adults living together and all needing cars, is happening because young people can't afford to move out, in most cases. We will be seeing more and more cases like this unless a shedload of few flats get built sharpish.

In the country where I live, it's illegal to leave any vehicle on the street overnight, including on the street you live in. You need to build, buy or rent an exclusive, dedicated parking space for each vehicle you purchase; in fact, you cannot legally purchase a vehicle until you have had your parking space checked out and signed off by the local police station, and your proof of parking will need to be presented to the place you purchase the car from. If you leave the vehicle on the street overnight, it will get swept up in the 2am street patrol and hauled away, and you will have to pay a big fine to get it out.

That might be too draconian for the UK, which has allowed itself to get into a mess by trying to be an American-style car-centric society WITHOUT building American-style cities, meaning you have cars jammed and crammed into every inch of narrow, terraced streets.

But one thing the UK COULD do is start to establish some limits on car ownership in areas without offstreet parking, by putting residents' parking laws in place in all areas without offstreet parking, outlining spaces with paint, and allowing one dedicated space per building; anyone who wants an additional car could be required to rent a space in a separate car park or similar facility and will have to walk to their car. (Oh, and in places where streets are narrow, stipulate a maximum vehicle size to stop pavements from being completely blocked by massive cars.)

Eight vehicles is appalling, but the reality is that you are going to get pisstakers until you start actually setting some laws in place to stop this.

@FrozenLimeMargarita

I think anyone can apply to have a TPO on any providing the girth of the trunk meets minimum requirements. My friend was a TP warden for our local council.

Leave them a message and ask. Then at least if they assess and agree then you'll know the trees are safe.

What an awful family to have moved in.

People with that amount of vehicles should look for a property with a drive.

I don’t have anything to add here, I’m just invested in your story about BCH. They sound like the worst kind of people.

definitely speak to the council about TPOs.

These neighbours sound like utterly awful people who value all the wrong things.
So sorry op it's amazing how much stress one selfish household can cause

If you cut down the trees and made more spaces, these people will get another car. It's only a matter of time. What a troubling attitude to nature and your community they have. It's not troubling them though, so please give them hell with your packing strategy (and look into council options too before taking them completely off the table)!

I feel your pain OP! My neighbour directly beside me has 6 vehicles, 2 which sit on the drive and 4 on the street, the neighbour directly opposite has 5, 2 on the drive & 3 on the street. Then when partners show up in their cars on a Friday night and don’t move until Monday morning it becomes infuriating trying to find parking. As someone else suggested I’d ask the other neighbours to space their vehicles out so they’re unable to take up 2 spaces, how inconsiderate of them to think this is okay?

Chopping down giant oak trees to facilitate their gluttonous fleet of cars is disgusting.

Agree, NannyOgg, as well as the water issue, I think the roots shrivel and can cause subsidence.

I hope that the trees aren’t chopped down. Agree on the water issue. Also it will be hotter in the summer. I have a friend who lives on a new build estate with no trees in the streets or gardens (shrubs). It is too hot there in the summer. Lots of parking though as it’s all tarmac.

And felling them can cause all sorts of problems with subsidence etc as the water they take up has nowhere to go

I'm surprised at all the people who are saying it's not new car family's fault - seriously - how would you feel if your neighbour suddenly took up over half the parking in a street or perhaps 2 neighbours wanting and using all 20 spaces for their many varied work and non work vehicles - I guess you'd all be really happy then ?

I live in a small road where each house is lucky enough to have parking on driveways for 3-4 cars each and we all use our driveways leaving the road free for postman, deliveries and additional vehicles eg we have 2 cars and they are parked on driveway - if we have visitors we can get 2 more on - everyone in the road is happy and get along .... until new neighbours moved in - they do not use their driveway for any vehicle parking and instead park their 2 cars plus a works van on road every day and when their adult children visit which is most days as the lady looks after her grandchildren they park all their cars in the road - can be as many as 5-7 spaces they take up - but it's not just the spaces they tend to park quite badly and in a turning area - not so long ago a paramedic car came to a call for an elderly neighbour and could not get down the road due to their parking - when someone politely asked to move their cars they were told to F off

This is always the problem if you don't own the parking space.

Everything will be fine until someone turns up and starts taking the piss.

I mean what they are doing may be perfectly legal. But it's not exactly neighbourly and some people don't care about playing by the rules that others have set.

The good news is there is lots of you who want to abide by a system. And only one of them. So you should be able to co-ordinate efforts in some way.

I’m normally in the “you don’t own the road” camp but this is outrageous behaviour from the neighbour. No one needs this many cars!

Good luck with the scheme to thwart them!