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To be so distraught over child coldsore

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Mamamover · 24/09/2024 09:08

Good morning guys,

I wondered if you guys think i’m being over the top? DH think I am.

I have had cold sores fon my face and down below for 20 years. Get an outbreak once every 12-18 months. I have serious health anxiety when it comes to my children to the point I have never kissed our 12 month old, not even on the head. My hands bleed where I clean them so much and i’m constantly anti bac wiping, for fear of passing it on.

He has been grumpy the last few days and a bit snotty. I noticed he had a red patch under his nose which started bleeding today.
I believe it’s a cold sore.

Im beside myself and have been sick from the guilt and anxiety of it. I’m the only one in our house hold who knowingly has the virus and i’m just absolutely distraught that i’ve passed this on to him. I can’t stop crying and just want to go to bed and sleep.

DH thinks i’m being dramatic but I don’t think I am. I’ve given my poor baby a lifelong virus.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Beautifulhaiku · 24/09/2024 19:46

I know you’ve tried some therapy for your health anxiety, but have you tried medication and therapy together? I found SSRIs (double ‘normal
dose’ to work for OCD) and therapy together really helpful, but struggled with therapy alone. Can take a while to find the right meds and for them to start working but worth it IMO.

Lesmiserables2024 · 24/09/2024 19:42

OP, "Studies suggest that 62% of Americans are infected with HSV-1 by adolescence, and up to 85% by their 60s." And they think that's probably still underestimating the figures. Exposure was inevitable at some point, and not from you! Once they start mingling at nursery, school, nightclubs most folk come across it. I have OCD and can totally relate to how you feel and if you can get treatment for it - you can overcome it! You sound lovely OP - give yourself a big hug as well as your wee one 😊

Oleo24 · 24/09/2024 19:40

I do feel for you, OP. My husband has cold sores and finds it stressful. It doesn’t stop him kissing his family, though. He just doesn’t do it if he feels one coming on or has an active cold sore. We’re careful not to share towels etc. We’ve been together many years and I have never had a cold sore. He thinks he caught them from his mum but she wasn’t very careful.
It’s great that you’re trying to protect your children but I really hope you manage to feel well enough to kiss them one day soon.

Blueberrymuffin8 · 24/09/2024 19:40

hildabaker · 24/09/2024 09:50

My mum used to get cold sores which she must have inadvertently passed on to me and I in turn must have inadvertently passed onto my son. Yes I feel bad about it but as others have said it can't be helped.

By the by, I use a cold sore 'zapper' that I got from amazon, and the first tingle I apply the zapper and the cold sore fails to develop. I can't remember now the last time I had a cold sore that managed to flourish, so to speak. I do recommend it, if you don't already have one.

I need the name of the zapper

I too have somehow passed on the virus to my 7 year old and feel awful about it (my mum must have passed it on to me as I've had them since a young age) . I have never kissed him during an outbreak and thought I was sooo careful but I can't beat myself up about it as it's just one of those things I couldn't have helped!! I felt awful when I saw it on his lower lip but ultimately there is no point in driving yourself into the ground of something that's inevitable. We need to love ourselves more and accept life's journey. Hugs x

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:30

There’s also evidence to suggest that if you have oral herpes, you can also get genital herpes but are much less likely to get sores and symptoms

Skybluepinky · 24/09/2024 19:29

Go to GP for help for yr anxiety.

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 19:26

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:12

This is not strictly true as both strain can affect either part of the body. Genital sores are generally caused by sexual contact so it is very unlikely your baby will get them.
it’s unusual to spread one type
to another part of your body so you may be dealing with two different forms of the virus as suggested here

Edited

This is what I'm trying to say. Yes each strain can affect either area, but it's extremely unlikely that if someone is infected with one strain that it will affect both areas.

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:16

bubblesun · 24/09/2024 19:04

Tbh I understand.
My grandma passed it to me as a baby. I suffer horrendously.

Yes not kissing my babies is worth the prevention of them going through what I have and still do.

I remember having cold sores covering my nose and mouth and philtrum and being bullied. Even now every time I catch a cold. A nasty embarassing cold sore happens at the end of the virus. Anytime I'm stressed, any big event in my life has been ruined by cold sores appearing.

I have one right now.

All my 4 births, have been ruined because the first 4 weeks of my babies lives I've had cold sores all over my lips and nose.

I moved to a new area, and started my new school run with a nose 10x larger because of cold sores inside and outside of the nose.

Cold sores have ruined everything.

So I don't think you're being crazy, but I have kissed my babies on the head.

I wish my grandma didn't show me "love" throwing herpes all over me.

Have you tried anti viral therapy? This sounds awful for you.
Supplementing lysine can help too anecdotally

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:12

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 18:51

The virus affecting your lips and genitals are different, which is why they are breaking out at different times.

Even if your child has it and it is effecting his lips it will not now affect his genitals unless he contracts the other form of the virus when he is older.

This is not strictly true as both strain can affect either part of the body. Genital sores are generally caused by sexual contact so it is very unlikely your baby will get them.
it’s unusual to spread one type
to another part of your body so you may be dealing with two different forms of the virus as suggested here

Didimum · 24/09/2024 19:12

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 19:01

But not the same virus in both places on the same person.

Yes, the same virus in one person can cause the blisters in both areas.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/herpes-hsv1-and-hsv2/genital-herpes

bubblesun · 24/09/2024 19:04

Tbh I understand.
My grandma passed it to me as a baby. I suffer horrendously.

Yes not kissing my babies is worth the prevention of them going through what I have and still do.

I remember having cold sores covering my nose and mouth and philtrum and being bullied. Even now every time I catch a cold. A nasty embarassing cold sore happens at the end of the virus. Anytime I'm stressed, any big event in my life has been ruined by cold sores appearing.

I have one right now.

All my 4 births, have been ruined because the first 4 weeks of my babies lives I've had cold sores all over my lips and nose.

I moved to a new area, and started my new school run with a nose 10x larger because of cold sores inside and outside of the nose.

Cold sores have ruined everything.

So I don't think you're being crazy, but I have kissed my babies on the head.

I wish my grandma didn't show me "love" throwing herpes all over me.

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 19:01

Didimum · 24/09/2024 18:56

This isn’t true. HSV1 and HSV2 favour locations but they both can show up on mouth and genitals.

But not the same virus in both places on the same person.

Grapewrath · 24/09/2024 19:00

Op my dad got the cold sore virus at 7 month old, inside her mouth and on her gums. It was painful for her but as an adult now she gets the very occasional cold sore and it has not impacted her in any way shape or form
I hope you’re ok

Babyboomtastic · 24/09/2024 18:59

Thank goodness he's got it now and you can finally get on with kissing your baby.

And yes, it would be better if he didn't have it, but that dwarfs in comparison to the harm that having a mum who won't kiss him will do.

Please get help for your health anxiety.

Didimum · 24/09/2024 18:56

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 18:51

The virus affecting your lips and genitals are different, which is why they are breaking out at different times.

Even if your child has it and it is effecting his lips it will not now affect his genitals unless he contracts the other form of the virus when he is older.

This isn’t true. HSV1 and HSV2 favour locations but they both can show up on mouth and genitals.

Didimum · 24/09/2024 18:53

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 17:45

I honestly am absolutely fine with the truth so please don’t think I may get offended by it at all because I absolutely won’t ☺️

I am intrigued though (genuinely- no sarcasm at all intended!!) how and in what way you mean when you talk about how my attitude will cause harm? (Again, genuine question)

Children of anxious parents are 2-7x more likely to develop anxiety and depression than children without an anxious parent, cor a parent whose anxiety is well controlled.

You are the figurehead in your children’s social and emotional learning, and you do not have healthy emotions or behaviours to pass to them, you have dysfunctional ones.

Don’t think I can’t relate. I suffered crippling health anxiety for 25yrs and went through extensive CBT for years to overcome it. A week long rehab and CBT hopping is not it.

Aside from sticking with CBT, there are other therapies you can try – psychotherapy, talking therapy, hypnotherapy, EMDR.

Floralsofa · 24/09/2024 18:51

The virus affecting your lips and genitals are different, which is why they are breaking out at different times.

Even if your child has it and it is effecting his lips it will not now affect his genitals unless he contracts the other form of the virus when he is older.

Aligirlbear · 24/09/2024 18:40

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 17:45

I honestly am absolutely fine with the truth so please don’t think I may get offended by it at all because I absolutely won’t ☺️

I am intrigued though (genuinely- no sarcasm at all intended!!) how and in what way you mean when you talk about how my attitude will cause harm? (Again, genuine question)

Lots of research available about the impact the parents behaviours have on children and their future development. Lack of affection ( including no kissing) can cause withdrawal type behaviours i.e. not worth responding to stimulus because I won’t get the appropriate response . Mental health issues and behaviours in parents result in the incidence of the children suffering the same grow exponentially and if you suffer health anxiety your DC are more likely to - it’s learnt behaviours.

Kindly OP you do need to seek support from your GP for more therapy / a different type to ensure that your perceived good intentions through health anxiety and OCD don’t actually result in the development of the same traits in your DC.

ALunchbox · 24/09/2024 18:30

Please kiss your children (when you don't have cold sores)!
I have cold sores, probably inherited from my mother. I couldn't care less.

TheShellBeach · 24/09/2024 17:59

PP are saying that not kissing your baby is harmful, and I agree.
I kissed mine all the time when they were babies, including the first one, and I'd had a herpes simplex keratitis after she was born.

WickWood · 24/09/2024 17:57

I get coldsores, I presumably got it from my mum as she gets them too, honestly can say I've never given it a second thought.

I've never had genital herpes, so it's not a given that if somebody gets coldsores on their lips they get them down below too.

I've noticed that the older I get (I'm now 29) the less I get coldsores. I'm now pregnant and will never, ever kiss my baby when I have an outbreak, but absolutely will be kissing him outside of that. Kiss your baby, its just one of those things! X

offyoujollywelltrot · 24/09/2024 17:51

Please seek help. This is seriously affecting your ability to parent.

DryIce · 24/09/2024 17:51

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 16:50

How do you feel toward then because of it?

I have genuinely never been annoyed with my parents about it. Ideally I wouldn't have them, and I am careful to wash hands particularly well/not share towels or cutlery etc when I have one to try and prevent my children getting them. But if they do, it will be far from the worst thing that happens in their lives.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/09/2024 17:47

Your baby has never felt his mother's kiss? Not once in his life?

Poor kid.

You need to contact your GP for urgent support, as the harm that could be caused to him emotionally vastly outweighs something he'd just as likely pick up at nursery or school at some point in any case.

Mamamover · 24/09/2024 17:45

Didimum · 24/09/2024 17:23

Sorry, OP, I have enormous sympathy for you, but that’s an unacceptable attitude to have, especially when you have a spouse and child who will suffer its consequences too. Your child will be damaged by this far more than a cold sore virus. Your energy and focus is in such the entirely wrong place that you are blind to the harm you will cause him.

Edited

I honestly am absolutely fine with the truth so please don’t think I may get offended by it at all because I absolutely won’t ☺️

I am intrigued though (genuinely- no sarcasm at all intended!!) how and in what way you mean when you talk about how my attitude will cause harm? (Again, genuine question)

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