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Having I fucked up the sex talk?

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TheSmartestGiantInTown1 · 23/09/2024 20:51

Today my 6 year old asked me how a man's seed gets into a woman's tummy (I have told him previously that babies are made from an egg and seed). His 4 year sister was listening at the time. My Mum was a HCP so very frank and no nonsense about anything body related, so I was always of the opinion it was best to answer questions honestly but without lots of unnecessary detail. I therefore explained that a man puts his penis inside a woman's vagina, the seed goes into a woman's womb, and meets the egg there. My daughter asked where the babies came out, I said the vagina. They looked mildly surprised and the conversation moved on.

I'd never discussed this with DH and he is horrified- I now see that we should have discussed our approach to this inevitable question long ago. He says I've stolen their innocence, and they'll never see the world the same way again. Honestly they didn't seem that bothered- there was a lot more questions when I had to explain a family member died. However now I feel horrible. Have I totally fucked this up? DH said I should have said that people have a special cuddle.

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MasterpiecesofthePuzzle · 24/09/2024 18:04

Elle771 · 23/09/2024 20:53

You're fine, your DH needs to leave the 80s behind 😅

😂👌🏽

Rantismymiddlename · 24/09/2024 18:03

My rule of thumb on these things is to be child led whilst not overburdening with too much information. So providing age appropriate facts.

I think you handled this well. They ask until they satisfy themselves at their own logical level of understanding because if you tell them "stories" it can make the world seem pretty confusing and leave them drawing up some pretty odd conclusions about how the world works.

I did the same with Father Christmas. Let them believe as long as they accepted the story and got joy out of it. Answered their very specific logical questions honestly when they started to show confusion and struggle to accept the possibility with "what do you think about it?" And when they shared their sensible logic "You are really clever you have worked it out. But it's not your job to share this with others in your class that's a job for their parents not you."

OldScribbler · 24/09/2024 17:57

TheSmartestGiantInTown1 · 23/09/2024 20:51

Today my 6 year old asked me how a man's seed gets into a woman's tummy (I have told him previously that babies are made from an egg and seed). His 4 year sister was listening at the time. My Mum was a HCP so very frank and no nonsense about anything body related, so I was always of the opinion it was best to answer questions honestly but without lots of unnecessary detail. I therefore explained that a man puts his penis inside a woman's vagina, the seed goes into a woman's womb, and meets the egg there. My daughter asked where the babies came out, I said the vagina. They looked mildly surprised and the conversation moved on.

I'd never discussed this with DH and he is horrified- I now see that we should have discussed our approach to this inevitable question long ago. He says I've stolen their innocence, and they'll never see the world the same way again. Honestly they didn't seem that bothered- there was a lot more questions when I had to explain a family member died. However now I feel horrible. Have I totally fucked this up? DH said I should have said that people have a special cuddle.

Your OH is very prim. At 4 years old our little girl was eager to see my "tail"; she doesn't seem to have suffered or been in any way affected by this experience. She also developed a habit of waggling her bare bum at me at bedtime. Now she has given it up at 7.

Sillybillypoopoomummy · 24/09/2024 17:51

to add - both children (DS and DD) had the "what will happen when I grow up" books from about 6. They were fascinated and would swap the books and discuss. It is just biology!

Sillybillypoopoomummy · 24/09/2024 17:48

Absolutely nothing wrong at all! These type of chats need to be normalised early. However do not be surprised if they forget... DS was a very advanced reader and hit certain 'terms' earlier than normal, so we had to explain what they meant, and often his reply would be 'what is sex again??'. We just explained again!

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 24/09/2024 17:17

LBFseBrom · 24/09/2024 16:07

I believe in total frankness. Not just about sex but the Santa Claus myth.

Killjoy.

Agree with VikingLady that @Chipsintheair worded the act well, emphasising the consensual nature of sex rather than the man doing it to a woman.

LBFseBrom · 24/09/2024 16:33

deargodno · 23/09/2024 21:57

A special cuddle sounds like something Prince Andrew would say.

Why?

LBFseBrom · 24/09/2024 16:07

I believe in total frankness. Not just about sex but the Santa Claus myth.

LBFseBrom · 24/09/2024 16:06

YankSplaining · 24/09/2024 00:50

I can imagine! At least he, like a whole generation of American kids, didn’t learn what it was from the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal. I was eleven and at first I thought oral sex was just talking about sex.

Yes and aural sex is hearing about it.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 24/09/2024 14:48

Year 5 sex education is much more detailed than what the OP told her child. For starters it includes puberty (periods, wet dreams etc) and then there’s more details than like masturbation and ejaculation. Schools wait until year 5 because even the most conservative parents should have had the chat by then and just in case they never plan to say anything , children should be forewarned about subjects like periods. Finding out information in the playground could lead to massive problems.

This is one of those topics where it’s better to chat when they are young because younger kids accept it very matter of factly.

VikingLady · 24/09/2024 14:33

Chipsintheair · 23/09/2024 22:23

You absolutely did it right. The only thing I'd alter is that I try not to make sex sound like a man's action, i.e. rather than "the man puts his penis into the woman's vagina," I'd say something like, "a woman and a man slot her vagina and his penis together."
Actually, with my DC,I said, "the woman slots her vagina over the man's penis."

Might sound clumsy, but it's really, really important not to make sex sound like something a man does to a woman.

I never thought about that. I did go off on one to my eldest about the origin of the word vagina (sword sheath ffs!) and the perniciousness of the virginity myth (she's 12 and it's becoming relevant to her social group) but I hadn't thought of how I described the mechanics. I'll use that, thanks.

Snugglemonkey · 24/09/2024 13:22

mycatsbestfriend · 23/09/2024 23:29

I just let the school teach my son when he was 10. Asked if he had any questions, said no I mean it isn't hard to grasp any older kid will get it

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I hope you are just messing. It is so easy to have distorted ideas about sex and sexuality. I regularly encounter adults who do not understand how their bodies work and it is impacting their sexual functioning, their relationships, their self-esteem. It can ruin lives.

It is hard to grasp lots of things, but I suppose if you don't see that then it might be better you didn't teach them. I hope for their sake that school has done a good job. Sadly, in my experience, it is very common that they do not.

YankSplaining · 24/09/2024 13:22

DinosaurMunch · 24/09/2024 10:48

Non consensual sex with an angel according to the bible.

Bit much to assume it was Mary's fault? Likely she was only about 12.

Mind you in the religion she came from she would have been considered guilty which is why Joseph was so generous is agreeing to stay with her.

What…? No, the Bible says that the angel Gabriel tells Mary that she’s going to be the mother of God’s son. Mary asks how this is possible, because she’s a virgin; Gabriel says the power of the Holy Spirit will come over her. Mary says that she’s God’s servant and agrees with God’s will.

Which is why she’s the Virgin Mary and Jesus is the Son of God. Your version sounds like somebody’s explicit Bible fanfic from Archive Of Our Own. 😂

89redballoons · 24/09/2024 12:03

I think if you don't make a massive deal of Having The Sex Talk with a young child, but just answer their questions about biology factually, they're not likely to talk about it in the playground because it's just another fact - like a PP said, it's just like knowing why the sky is blue or whatever.

Saying that sperm comes out of a grown up man's penis and into a grown up woman's vagina so it can travel into her womb, meet an egg and start growing a baby, and eventually when the baby is big enough it comes out of her vagina or she can have an operation to take it out through her tummy, is very different to telling a child about the emotional, or pleasurable, or even religious/moral (for some people) side of sex.

That's the side that has to be explained very differently to a 4 year old, and a 9 year old, and a 12 year old, and a 16 year old. It is also the side that makes adults embarrassed and it's what adults associate with sex. Explaining biological facts to a child is not really explaining "sex" to a child because for an adult, sex is much more than the biology of making a baby, and might not include that at all.

I think there's no problem at all with a 4 year old knowing the biology of where babies come from if they ask. I would (and have) also tell them that only grownups can make a baby and it's not something that children can do.

Children that age also need to know that their private parts are private, and they should also be taught about consent and boundaries in terms of cuddles, tickles etc. Obviously those types of conversations change completely in terms of detail and emphasis as they get older.

Dweetfidilove · 24/09/2024 11:42

gloriagloria · 23/09/2024 21:33

I took a similar approach. DH was fully supportive but a bit taken aback when he came down to breakfast next morning to be told “morning daddy! I hear you put your penis in mummy’s vagina. Twice!”

🤭🤭🤭

JeremiahBullfrog · 24/09/2024 11:38

Kitkatcatflap · 24/09/2024 02:22

When my 4 year asked if eggs came out of a chicken's bum my DH told her they have a vent an 'egg hatch'. Fast forward a few weeks and she asked a very pregnant lady in her playground 'how her baby was coming out' the flustered lady said, 'she wasn't sure yet'. My daughter told 'It's not your bum, my Daddy said you have an egg hatch'. Awkward queue for the ice creams that day.

Actually in chickens the "egg hatch" and the "bum" are the same hole ...

Lovefromjuliaxo · 24/09/2024 11:20

DinosaurMunch · 24/09/2024 10:39

I remember kids at school talking about sex when I was in year 3. This was a long time before the internet. Surely it's best to tell them a version you're happy with before they hear something worse from other kids. They will hear it from someone by 7 or 8 so you do need to be thinking about it by 6 or you will be too late

Y3 is old enough to know if your mum tells you something not to go telling friends in case their parents aren’t comfortable with it/ want to tell their kids themselves

y4 is when I got taken out of sex Ed lol

Opentooffers · 24/09/2024 11:13

When my DS was about 9, there was a 1pm news item about a man being raped just as he walked into the room. He asked how that would be possible . I gave him basic facts ( while squirming a tad inside) . He laughed and said something like "no, really?" He's not been scarred by it, doesn't remember it now.
Playground chat is enlightening, about age 8 he said something about being sexy, so I asked him if he knew what sex was. He went on to describe very accurately a tit wank 😂Put him straight on that. Playground chatter obviously not very accurate 🤔

89redballoons · 24/09/2024 11:06

I was brought up in that "certain religion" too (I assume you mean Catholicism?) and was taught accurate biological facts about sex from a young age. My grandmother grew up on a farm in rural Poland and so was extremely matter of fact about everything, and so my mum was as well.

Slidesclipsandbobbins · 24/09/2024 11:00

Non consensual sex with an angel according to the bible.

Eh, that's not what the bible says at all.

DinosaurMunch · 24/09/2024 10:48

Sleepydoor · 23/09/2024 23:48

That's interesting. I didn't realize it's the belief that Mary was free of original sin. Funny, since I always assume she got pregnant from an extramarital affair.

Non consensual sex with an angel according to the bible.

Bit much to assume it was Mary's fault? Likely she was only about 12.

Mind you in the religion she came from she would have been considered guilty which is why Joseph was so generous is agreeing to stay with her.

DinosaurMunch · 24/09/2024 10:39

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 21:54

6 does seem very young to be asking about this/telling them in great detail.
I probably would’ve changed the subject or said it was a chat for another day, and told them when they were older- especially this stuff about penis in vagina. I would be very wary that your kid may go telling others in school about this, I wouldn’t be happy if I had a 6/7 year old who came back from school saying “mum my friend told me about penis going into a woman’s vagina.”

I would maybe tell your child not to go telling kids at school as some parents prefer to talk to them about it first.

I was taken out of sex Ed lessons by my parents when I was 9, so that’s probably why I am thinking like this. I do think 9 is old enough to know in scientific detail, but not 6.

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I remember kids at school talking about sex when I was in year 3. This was a long time before the internet. Surely it's best to tell them a version you're happy with before they hear something worse from other kids. They will hear it from someone by 7 or 8 so you do need to be thinking about it by 6 or you will be too late

Scottishdreams1991 · 24/09/2024 10:31

FallingIsLearning · 23/09/2024 23:53

You did just fine. There is nothing inherently different to your child’s question than “why do we hiccough?’ or “why is the sky blue?” or “where does poo come from?” Children are curious.

You answered a straightforward sensible question with a straightforward sensible answer. Their new knowledge won’t suddenly sexualise them. They will file it away, and go back to playing as normal, just the same as if you had just discussed poo. Just like with poo (perhaps less than with poo, given how hilarious my daughter found talking about poo at that age), there might be some discussion in the playground. But at least that discussion will be based on fact, and not some fallacy based on an ill-founded attempt to give an alternative answer that shields children from the truth.

The ‘special cuddle’ answer is awful, not just because it might make the child worried that they could have babies from a hug, but because when they start to suspect that that is incorrect, it teaches them that sex is something taboo and shameful. It also teaches them that they might not be able to trust you with the big questions later on.

We used the term special cuddle at that age and had no issues. My dd 12 is very informed about sex and everything to do with it. Which included a discussion about abortion and how to get an implant etc.

qualifiedazure · 24/09/2024 09:50

You can't keep kids ignorant until you're ready, it doesn't work like that.

You just get a choice between you telling them, or leaving it up to Tyler in Year 4 whose older brother showed him a pornhub clip.

qualifiedazure · 24/09/2024 09:46

You did fine, I told my children the same from about the age of 4.

If you leave it up to slightly older boys at school to teach them then they end up believing that the man has to pee in the woman's mouth or something.

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