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To ask for your very late talker success stories?

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YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 23/09/2024 16:50

I don’t know if I’m being foolish to hope. My child is nearly 2 1/2 and basically non-verbal, and probably autistic. I’d love to hear stories of children that talked very late, especially autistic children. I mean are able to hold a conversation.

I just need to counter my feeling that my child will never speak to me, which is my dominant fear at the moment and which feels inevitable.

Thanks in advance

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MarxistMags · 13/06/2025 22:03

My niece, well great niece, never spoke until she was 4 and a half. She was engaged, responsive and liked to sit beside an adult relative and give you the colouring book.
Then just before P1 she started talking. I used to joke that up until then everything was perfect and she had no need to talk ,😁

MumofCandRA · 13/06/2025 21:48

My child said nothing at 2. Neither did she walk until around the same age. Very quiet/ selective mute in most of primary. Didn't read until around age 6, didn't 'get' phonics. She's now 13 and top in all sets at school, very capable with her language and has a great group of friends.

ApplesinmyPocket · 13/06/2025 21:40

My godson, who is my best friend's kid, didn't speak till he was 3. He was in a special SALT group for children with SN.

I never thought he was anything other than quite bright. I used to take him shopping with me and he was clearly very switched-on, he just didn't verbalise it.

Anyway, fast-forward to 11, when he gained a place at our local super-selective grammar, and now, in his 30s, has a really good job as a Financial Controller.

He was never diagnosed ASD, but I think it's likely. He's not quite like his very 'normal' brother, and his first child was diagnosed with autism at 3. But it's definitely a success story.

MrsSunshine2b · 13/06/2025 21:04

Excited101 · 13/06/2025 17:58

‘I didn’t talk until I was 3’ is something I’ve heard said by a few people I know- not even necessarily neurodivergent people either! And I once worked with a little boy with Autism who was 2.5 when I started and he was more like 3 when we began to get some words from him- with intensive therapy.

as a teenager, he goes to a mainstream school and does incredibly well.

I think you'll find most of those people are ND and just not diagnosed.

I can think of two people very close to me who didn't talk until they were 3/4, and I am very certain that both of them are autistic, although neither has a diagnosis.

ViciousCurrentBun · 13/06/2025 18:17

DH hardly spoke a word till he was 4, he has a PhD from Cambridge and is a University Prof and was a head of dept till retiring last year. Never diagnosed with autism but it’s pretty obvious he has multiple personality traits and backwards bendy thumbs that are linked to being ND.

When he ‘decided’ to speak it was like a tap turning on with full long and complex sentences. He got lost in central London aged 5 and his distraught Mother said he looked at her and said ‘don’t be ridiculous I knew exactly where I was and wasn’t lost’.

Excited101 · 13/06/2025 17:58

‘I didn’t talk until I was 3’ is something I’ve heard said by a few people I know- not even necessarily neurodivergent people either! And I once worked with a little boy with Autism who was 2.5 when I started and he was more like 3 when we began to get some words from him- with intensive therapy.

as a teenager, he goes to a mainstream school and does incredibly well.

MyCyanReader · 13/06/2025 17:56

My cousin didn't speak until 4. He now works in investment banking. Autistic.

My DS2 spoke less than 10 words aged 2.5 and it was difficult to work out what the word was. He was very quiet as a baby. He's now 9 and there's no shutting him up when he's with me. Also Autistic.

OnyourbarksGSG · 13/06/2025 17:54

All the boys in my family were late talkers with ADHD and or ASD. My sins first and only words was beans from age 2-4 and then suddenly started taking in sentences ( with poor word order). He’s now 25 and is over of the page I love to talk to the most. His vocabulary is vast. My nephew is now 9 and he talks with an American accent but it can be hard to understand him if you don’t know him. He had the most unusual way of thinking though and it’s always a delight getting his opinions etc. my other Dnephew only said a certain word related to a Disney movie but used that for everything with different inflections etc to get his point across. He’s also fascinating to talk to and sees things that others wouldn’t and has a unique viewpoint. Honestly, I know it’s worrying but SALT can be fantastic. And it’s not a Givenchy that he will never talk. Just do your best to not talk for him. Children still communicate, even without words.

Midlifecrisis23 · 13/06/2025 16:09

I think the cleaning hinch lady, her oldest is autistic and spoke late. She’s got some videos on it

YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 13/06/2025 16:07

Hi worriedmum, thanks for asking.
He’s now 3 and has got his diagnosis.
Still doesn’t talk but is a happy little boy who is thriving at nursery. He understands much of what is said to him. This morning we played hop little bunnies and he was hop hop hopping, it was very sweet.

It’s hard to imagine him ever talking, but as this thread demonstrates, and as the autism specialist told us, it is still quite early days as autistic kids acquire language differently. I wonder if he might be a gestalt language processor because although he has not said much yet he has shown a keen interest in particular sentences being read to him over and over.

Time will tell. His challenges worry me, but I would never trade him for another child. He feels like a miracle to me.

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worriedmum88 · 12/06/2025 03:38

OP I'd love to know how your son is doing now?x

ReggaetonLente · 24/09/2024 14:21

My close friends daughter has autism and also global developmental delay. I met her when she was 3 and she wouldn’t even turn round when you said her name and had never said a word, only noises. Now at almost 5 she responds to her name every time, can say the names of people in her family and favourite TV show, and say things she would like to do next as part of a routine. It’s truly incredible how much she’s progressed. I hope that gives you a little hope.

YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 24/09/2024 13:04

Some of these posts are making me cry. It’s just so lovely to hear of these children eventually finding their words. And for the ones that haven’t, or have different ways of communicating, it is clear they are just as loved

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YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 24/09/2024 13:03

OldCrocks · 23/09/2024 21:21

My eldest is autistic. He was non-verbal until nearly 3. I didn't know anything about autism at the time but wondered about his hearing, which was assessed as fine. Then suddenly he said 4 words in one week, all 3-syllable words and one of which was a very inventive word he had made up to mean something specific that he didn't know the real word for. It became clear that he may not have been talking, but he'd been doing a whole lot of listening, as he spoke increasingly fluently after that. Shortly afterwards it became apparent that he could also read.

Late speech runs in our family, as does autism, but the overlap isn't as complete as you might imagine. DS2 was late to speak but is neurotypical. DS3 is autistic but was early to speak. I'm autistic but was early/average to speak, but my sister didn't talk until 3 and is NT (which may be why I didn't worry much about DS1).

I personally wouldn't worry unduly at 2.5, especially if you suspect autism. They're all a bit different but imo 2.5 is within the range of normality.

Thank you. We also have late talking in the family, as well as autism and ADHD. I found your post very interesting.

I think my son is listening, too. He seems to understand a lot of what is being said, even if he can’t yet communicate his needs. It’s like I’m waiting for the neurons to connect and for him to get the fact that to get stuff he wants he needs to ask for it!

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Bbq1 · 24/09/2024 11:01

Relative is 7. Extremely late talker, didn't even babble as a baby. Had no speech. Language absolutely exploded at 4/5 and dc is so bright, chatty and sociable and is absolutely flying at school
We were really concerned as ds was so late and almost silent when v young but all fantastic now.

Ilovesyouido · 24/09/2024 10:54

InBedBy10 · 24/09/2024 09:19

My now 19yr old autistic son didn't speak until he was 10. There is hope.

How is his speech now?

Ilovesyouido · 24/09/2024 10:50

Zanatdy · 24/09/2024 04:57

My friends autistic DD is 6 in a week or so and still doesn’t say a single word, just babbles. Has anyone had experience of kids talking later than 6? Friend is very worried that she may never talk. She hasn’t even had any speech therapy as yet, long waiting list for a formal diagnosis and a location move (and another one coming up) hasn’t helped.

My DC is 9 and has only just started talking this summer. Single words mainly, asking for things (sweets mainly). Never had speech therapy, diagnosed with autism. I never thought it would happen!

Tohaveandtohold · 24/09/2024 09:29

My DD2. She’s only 5.5 now so not grown up yet but at 2.5, she had no words, tantrums because can’t communicate her needs, always in her own world, will smile only a few times to just me and dad, no gestures like pointing, stims, etc. We got a private speech therapist because we were just been fobbed off by the HV and I cried after reading the first report the therapist wrote because it was accurate but painted a bleak future so got Pecs, etc. Just to add, she had very minimal screen time.
We changed her from the childminder to a nursery because the nursery had a reputation of getting services for children.
At 3, she started saying some words, and then chunks of words that may not apply to the situation so maybe something she heard in the morning and she just repeats it later, she was diagnosed with ASD and then finally got to see the NHS salt and they told us she’s a gestalt language processor.
I’ve never heard of that till then so we started researching what it is and applying these interventions to her, dh is an occupational therapist but he took some speech therapy courses in that time as well. We stopped using pecs and in the space of 1.5 years, she can now talk in sentences, can ask for things, she can’t narrate what’s happened in school for example but we can ask questions that she’ll answer yes or no to. The tantrums has almost stopped because she now speaks even though they are sometimes single words but can pass across the message. Now to the best part, she can read so well, learnt phonics in reception (mainstream school and has 1 to 1 based on her ehcp) and since then applies it to books she’s reading. She’s learning to speak more now from reading and now has extensive vocabulary. We get picture books from the library with sentences and if there are difficult words, we describe or act it out for her to understand what it means as much as we can and this has made such a difference in the last one year. She still stims though.
At 2.5, if someone had told me that we’ll be here then I’ll say that’s not possible. Ofcourse all children are different but take any opportunities you’re given and if you can afford it, get private salt till you can get one on the NHS as well.

Crystallizedring · 24/09/2024 09:21

My brother isn't autistic but didn't speak until he was over 3. He hasn't shut up since.
I get your fears. My DS is 4, probably autistic and he doesn't really speak but in the last few months he has actually said a few words mummy, daddy, no and strangely giddy up. So no proper conversation but he does use the words in context.
Both my DDs were late speaking too, one is autistic, one is NT. Both were almost 3 before they started talking but both are certainly capable of holding a conversation (or arguement).

InBedBy10 · 24/09/2024 09:19

My now 19yr old autistic son didn't speak until he was 10. There is hope.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/09/2024 09:14

MiL once told me that eldest BiL (now over 80) barely uttered at all until he was 3. She had been getting very worried, but once he started, it came out in whole sentences - he’d just been taking it all in and biding his time.
He eventually went on to win a scholarship to Cambridge.

cheapskatemum · 24/09/2024 09:01

Sorry should read: "statemented"

cheapskatemum · 24/09/2024 09:00

DS3 didn't talk until he was about 4 & then it was just short phrases and pretty much only comprehensible to those who knew him. He had his own words for things that didn't sound much like the correct word. He had speech & language therapy & was statements (old Code of Practice) for speech language & communication disorder. Honestly, he's 29 now & you can't shut him up! He has the gift of the gab & works very successfully as an estate agent.
I hope you have a similar success story.

Discombobble · 24/09/2024 08:56

My daughter was very late talking - once started, she has not stopped since. Not autistic, although possibly ADHD. Graduated with a First, now bilingual

YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 24/09/2024 08:53

LeanIntoChaos · 24/09/2024 08:48

So, I answered a little flippantly! But I also do this sort of things as a job and the previous poster is right, they all follow their own trajectories. My DS learnt to speak (as with all the children on this thread) because he developed the capacity to speak. That was just luck really.

Once a child is in a window in which that development is possible, you can absolutely do lots of work to bring the speech on. Intensive interaction work. Commentate on what they are doing rather than ask questions, offer choices, talk and read to them a lot. However, if a child is not going to speak, none of the above will make them speak. It may make them progress in other areas or teach them to communicate in other ways though. It's like trying to teach a newborn baby to potty train, you can be the best potty trainer in the world but it still won't happen.

I don't say this to depress you, because in fact the majority of non talkers at 2, will talk. That's why this thread has so many examples of non talkers who talked. Your son is only 2.5, he has so much time to grow and develop. But I hope saying this helps to take the pressure off you, that feeling that you should always be doing more to bring your child along. Much of it is out of your hands. Go along to speech and language therapy, do the techniques that they recommend and see what happens.

The uncertainty is really difficult but I remember struggling to really enjoy my son because I was so concerned about him. I look back on videos and he was so cute but I was just worried about what he wasn't doing! I wish I had relaxed and enjoyed him more, but it's easy to say with hindsight.

Thank you. That does help, actually. I was blaming myself for letting him watch television from quite a young age. (A limited amount and very carefully chosen programmes.) My mother pointed out that there are children who grow up in very neglectful environments with constant screens who still develop speech, albeit it’s not great for them.

We have autism in the family (severe) and a relative said the same thing - that they regret not taking more enjoyment in their child at the time. I am making a conscious effort to do this by limiting how much time I’m allowed to worry each day.

I sense an intelligence and a desire to communicate in my child that is beyond their “output” right now, so there is grounds for hope.

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