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Labour voters - do you regret voting for them?

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MeadowL · 23/09/2024 13:32

They got off to a really bad start and it's just gone downhill ever since. Within a couple of weeks we practically had martial law, we've had riots you name it. Law and order has completely broken down. They've cut the pensioners fuel allowance and all the while they've had their snouts in the trough. 2 tier Keir approval rating has fallen off a cliff - the country has had enough already lol.

Aibu to think that those who voted them in should apologise.

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cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:46

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:44

Answer my one question before making demands on me to answer your barrage of questions.

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No, because your question is irrelevant to my point about her hypocrisy. You want to drag me into a discussion about a different topic to avoid seeing the hypocrisy. Not falling for it.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:45

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:43

I think a lot was very purposely made to be unclear before the election. I think she lived in hope. I think she’s reached the end of her hope.

No. I’m not ok with her not voting to keep the winter fuel payments. But neither did 99% of labour MPs. What’s the real reason for your vitriol of this particular MP.

What is a woman?

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The real reason is the hypocrisy of standing for election using a party’s resources and then weeks later resigning over things she knew before the election and a thing she didn’t vote against.
This isn’t a trans debate so I’m not going to let you make it one.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:44

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:41

I’m nit getting drawn into this. My view is irrelevant.
Did Duffield know about the Labour party’s position on women’s issues before she stood as a Labour MP?
Did she have access to the gifts register before she stood as a Labour MP?
Did she vote against the WFA change?

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Answer my one question before making demands on me to answer your barrage of questions.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:43

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:40

I think that’s not what this is about. And if it is, it was hypocritical of her not to resign before the election - that’s what I mean by imagined crusade. You’ve imagined that’s what it’s about. Everything in this resignation she knew before she stood as a Labour MP, except the WFA, which she disliked so much she didn’t vote against it…
Are you ok with that?

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I think a lot was very purposely made to be unclear before the election. I think she lived in hope. I think she’s reached the end of her hope.

No. I’m not ok with her not voting to keep the winter fuel payments. But neither did 99% of labour MPs. What’s the real reason for your vitriol of this particular MP.

What is a woman?

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:41

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:37

What is a woman @cardibach ?

I’m nit getting drawn into this. My view is irrelevant.
Did Duffield know about the Labour party’s position on women’s issues before she stood as a Labour MP?
Did she have access to the gifts register before she stood as a Labour MP?
Did she vote against the WFA change?

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:40

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:33

Imaginary?

You don’t think there’s a current issue with women being able to legally access male-free spaces?

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I think that’s not what this is about. And if it is, it was hypocritical of her not to resign before the election - that’s what I mean by imagined crusade. You’ve imagined that’s what it’s about. Everything in this resignation she knew before she stood as a Labour MP, except the WFA, which she disliked so much she didn’t vote against it…
Are you ok with that?

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:37

What is a woman @cardibach ?

MoodEnhancer · 29/09/2024 11:33

Hahahaha! No.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:33

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:32

That’s not what she resigned about. If it were, she’d have done it pre election. My view is irrelevant. Address the hypocrisy I’ve pointed out, not an imagined crusade you’ve made up.

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Imaginary?

You don’t think there’s a current issue with women being able to legally access male-free spaces?

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:32

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:31

You have a problem with women having recourse to spaces away from males?

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That’s not what she resigned about. If it were, she’d have done it pre election. My view is irrelevant. Address the hypocrisy I’ve pointed out, not an imagined crusade you’ve made up.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 11:31

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:28

Brexit was a binary. Yes/no or don’t vote.
pita a bit different with multiple parties, plus there was a lot of tactical voting - I know lots of Labour voters voted Lib Dem where that was the best way to get rid of a Tory.
‘What a week’ you say@MeadowL ? Fabricated scandal and a hypocrite resigning after not voting against the WFA removal and having access to all the info about gifts before the election. Didnt resign over Abbott until after she’s reinstated. Didn’t mind taking Labour money to campaign or borrowing the name in an election where they were the favourites, but resigns now? If I were one of her constituents and had voted Labour I’d be very, very pissed off. She should resign outright, call a by election and stand as an independent.
Honestly, if you are looking for serious hypocrisy in MPs elected for Labour this time, Duffield is it.

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You have a problem with women having recourse to spaces away from males?

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 11:30

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:27

In that case, we didn’t vote for Labour either.

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You’re quite right, the country didn’t vote for Labour. Nobody ever said it did.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 11:28

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:27

In that case, we didn’t vote for Labour either.

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Brexit was a binary. Yes/no or don’t vote.
pita a bit different with multiple parties, plus there was a lot of tactical voting - I know lots of Labour voters voted Lib Dem where that was the best way to get rid of a Tory.
‘What a week’ you say@MeadowL ? Fabricated scandal and a hypocrite resigning after not voting against the WFA removal and having access to all the info about gifts before the election. Didnt resign over Abbott until after she’s reinstated. Didn’t mind taking Labour money to campaign or borrowing the name in an election where they were the favourites, but resigns now? If I were one of her constituents and had voted Labour I’d be very, very pissed off. She should resign outright, call a by election and stand as an independent.
Honestly, if you are looking for serious hypocrisy in MPs elected for Labour this time, Duffield is it.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:27

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 10:27

Red herring. The country did not vote for Brexit.

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In that case, we didn’t vote for Labour either.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 10:27

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:25

And what proportion of the electorate voted for labour this summer?

At what age should people not be allowed to vote anymore?

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Red herring. The country did not vote for Brexit.

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 10:26

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:25

And what proportion of the electorate voted for labour this summer?

At what age should people not be allowed to vote anymore?

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Looking at numbers one was higher, not Labour

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:25

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 10:22

The country did not vote for Brexit. 37% of the electorate did and a substantial proportion of them are now dead.

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And what proportion of the electorate voted for labour this summer?

At what age should people not be allowed to vote anymore?

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 10:22

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:13

The country voted for brexit.

We didn’t vote to sell our gold.

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The country did not vote for Brexit. 37% of the electorate did and a substantial proportion of them are now dead.

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:13

beguilingeyes · 29/09/2024 09:46

The Tories gave us Brexit...IMO the greatest act of delusion and self-harm ever inflicted on us.
I'd like to see the likes of Gove, Johnson and Farage done for treason. They destroyed the country for personal gain.

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The country voted for brexit.

We didn’t vote to sell our gold.

beguilingeyes · 29/09/2024 09:46

LetsTalk12 · 25/09/2024 08:27

@JandLandG Well, under Blair Labour sold UKs Gold reserves. That was definitely a bad decision.
Findings into Iraq war (Chlicot Report)...

The Tories gave us Brexit...IMO the greatest act of delusion and self-harm ever inflicted on us.
I'd like to see the likes of Gove, Johnson and Farage done for treason. They destroyed the country for personal gain.

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MeadowL · 29/09/2024 08:39

Oh my what a week it's been for Labour.

I'm absolutely loving this lol.

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Menopausalsourpuss · 28/09/2024 11:55

There's no arguing with stoopid.

beeloubee · 28/09/2024 07:42

Much prefer labour to the previous vile government. I like labour's ideas and keir is doing a good job.

CoatRack · 28/09/2024 07:31

I for one am very pleased with how this new government is going, and all accomplished in just a couple of months:

-Fewer proles at the private schools.
-Rental yields soon to go up.
-Unlimited Ukrainian casualties.
-Future asset yields due to further increase.
-Thought crime for wrongthinkers.
-Fewer boomer pensions (genius!).
-Sausages returning.
-Support working-class interests (ban smoking, ban pints etc).
-Plugging the tax gap from electric cars.
-Outstanding gear for PM and wife.
-Penthouses proven as best for GCSEs.

Utopia is just around the corner 🤞😁

TENSsion · 28/09/2024 06:19

JandLandG · 27/09/2024 23:56

"I’m sure Labour started off saying no one in prison for violent crimes would be let out early"

Are you?

"So we all went along with it"

Really? That was the main thing people voted about, was it?

And has this problem suddenly emerged the last few weeks?

Or did Sunk call the election at that weird time precisely to avoid the problem that everyone knew was coming and that his party had create?

Honestly, I don't want to be rude, but the people I've interacted with on this thread...

Mumsnet used to be at a decent level of conversation and debate; when did all the Daily Mail and Express readers come in?

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You might be ok with them releasing very violent offenders early after explicitly saying they would not.

Many people are not.

We’re not stupid for thinking differently to you.

This is precisely the attitude that repulses me about Labour. You’re not the good guys.