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Labour voters - do you regret voting for them?

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MeadowL · 23/09/2024 13:32

They got off to a really bad start and it's just gone downhill ever since. Within a couple of weeks we practically had martial law, we've had riots you name it. Law and order has completely broken down. They've cut the pensioners fuel allowance and all the while they've had their snouts in the trough. 2 tier Keir approval rating has fallen off a cliff - the country has had enough already lol.

Aibu to think that those who voted them in should apologise.

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TENSsion · 01/10/2024 15:49

JandLandG · 01/10/2024 13:23

Source for these promises not to release "very violent offenders" early?

Who said I was ok with that?

Who said you were stupid?

A decent level of debate is one where informed people discuss their different perspectives and opinions, not just spout nonsense.

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What did you mean by this?

“Honestly, I don't want to be rude, but the people I've interacted with on this thread...
Mumsnet used to be at a decent level of conversation and debate; when did all the Daily Mail and Express readers come in?”

user1471516498 · 01/10/2024 13:35

Considering the short time they have been in office, which has included the summer recess plus the convention, I would say it is far too soon to draw any conclusions.

VapeVamp12 · 01/10/2024 13:31

Apologise 😂
To who?!

JandLandG · 01/10/2024 13:23

TENSsion · 28/09/2024 06:19

You might be ok with them releasing very violent offenders early after explicitly saying they would not.

Many people are not.

We’re not stupid for thinking differently to you.

This is precisely the attitude that repulses me about Labour. You’re not the good guys.

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Source for these promises not to release "very violent offenders" early?

Who said I was ok with that?

Who said you were stupid?

A decent level of debate is one where informed people discuss their different perspectives and opinions, not just spout nonsense.

DinosaurMunch · 30/09/2024 18:29

MeadowL · 29/09/2024 08:39

Oh my what a week it's been for Labour.

I'm absolutely loving this lol.

Labour voter here. I'm disappointed with the freebies scandal. I also don't think the wfa reduction was a great idea. Nor do I like the treatment of certain longstanding labour MP s such as Diane Abbott.

However, I don't regret my vote as clearly the Tories were far more corrupt, incompetent and austerity driven.

Labour get held to a higher standard because the press is controlled by rich people.

It's weird to take such glee from the issues the leading party is facing. When the Tories were embarrassing themselves with partygate, Liz truss's economy destroying budget, people dying after waiting in a and e for 18 hours and the Rwanda fiasco I didn't feel any glee at all I just felt absolute despair for the way our country was going down the pan. Do you hate Britain? Or maybe you're French or something?

PandoraSox · 30/09/2024 18:23

ACynicalDad · 30/09/2024 18:20

I thought they were in for 2 or 3 elections, now I think there is an outside chance that the tories could be back in 5 if they get the right leader.

Key phrase there is "right leader". There isn't a decent Tory leader to be found as yet.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2024 18:23

ACynicalDad · 30/09/2024 18:20

I thought they were in for 2 or 3 elections, now I think there is an outside chance that the tories could be back in 5 if they get the right leader.

5 years is a long time, look at the change in perception in a few months

octoberpumpkin · 30/09/2024 18:22

no.

ACynicalDad · 30/09/2024 18:20

I thought they were in for 2 or 3 elections, now I think there is an outside chance that the tories could be back in 5 if they get the right leader.

beguilingeyes · 30/09/2024 18:17

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 10:13

The country voted for brexit.

We didn’t vote to sell our gold.

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Yes, we did, we voted for the Government. That's how it works.
Alternatively, no one voted to come out of the single market/customs union, which they assured us would never happen...yet here we are.

ToWhitToWhoo · 29/09/2024 18:23

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:39

Did he do it less than three months after he’d been elected? It should apply to all serving MPs.

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On reflection, I do agree with you about any MP (including Churchill) who actually switches to another party. But not with regard to those who resign the whip and become independent- I think that would just enhance the already-excessive power of leaders and whips. Especially as most MPs who become independent have been suspended from their party by their leaders, rather than it being their own choice.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 16:16

On that we can agree, @TENSsion

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 16:12

cardibach · 29/09/2024 15:56

I think we can be fairly sure someone on maternity leave is a woman. How do you feel about Badenoch suggesting we shouldn’t have maternity pay?

If you’re asking me, I disagree with her.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 15:56

I think we can be fairly sure someone on maternity leave is a woman. How do you feel about Badenoch suggesting we shouldn’t have maternity pay?

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 14:56

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:52

Yes really. Who’s “we”?

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Women who don’t want males to be included in the definition of “women”

Women who want to be able to access spaces away from males without being constantly challenged.

Women who want women’s sports to not be participated in by males.

Women who are smeared by the term “anti trans”, “TERF”, “transphobe” for daring to say “no” to appropriating men.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:52

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 14:51

Really?

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Yes really. Who’s “we”?

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 14:51

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:49

Who’s “we”?

Really?

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:49

Who’s “we”?

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 14:48

pointythings · 29/09/2024 14:40

Since when is there a single 'right' way to be a feminist? It's utterly depressing that one cannot now be a feminist without accepting the Doctrine of Anti Trans. It's like a religion. And again, it completely misses out the huge issues affecting women which are not about gender.

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“Anti trans”

You mean that males can’t be women and shouldn’t have access to women’s spaces, sports, intimate care, etc? That’s like a religion? 😂

PS, I include trans men in feminism because they’re women. We’re not “anti trans”, we’re “anti males appropriating women’s rights”. Just for clarity.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:41

Childfreecatlady · 29/09/2024 14:37

Clearly you don't know what feminism means. and who gives a fuck if the birth rate is falling? The planet is overpopulated, we are running out of natural resources and we are on the brink of nuclear war but please, let's all pollute the planet with more children and ignore everything else, at the tax payers' expense no less.

There won’t be any taxpayers in the future if women stop having children.

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 14:40

TENSsion · 29/09/2024 14:35

“Women’s rights matter but it doesn’t matter who is legally defined as a woman”

Fucking hell. I despair

Agree with you there

pointythings · 29/09/2024 14:40

Childfreecatlady · 29/09/2024 14:37

Clearly you don't know what feminism means. and who gives a fuck if the birth rate is falling? The planet is overpopulated, we are running out of natural resources and we are on the brink of nuclear war but please, let's all pollute the planet with more children and ignore everything else, at the tax payers' expense no less.

Since when is there a single 'right' way to be a feminist? It's utterly depressing that one cannot now be a feminist without accepting the Doctrine of Anti Trans. It's like a religion. And again, it completely misses out the huge issues affecting women which are not about gender.

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 14:39

ToWhitToWhoo · 29/09/2024 14:36

Just out of curiosity:would you have said the same of Winston Churchill, who switched parties twice?

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Did he do it less than three months after he’d been elected? It should apply to all serving MPs.

Childfreecatlady · 29/09/2024 14:37

Clearly you don't know what feminism means. and who gives a fuck if the birth rate is falling? The planet is overpopulated, we are running out of natural resources and we are on the brink of nuclear war but please, let's all pollute the planet with more children and ignore everything else, at the tax payers' expense no less.

ToWhitToWhoo · 29/09/2024 14:36

ilovesooty · 29/09/2024 14:21

Exactly. My opinion applies to any MP, of any political party who gives up the whip or crosses the floor. If you no longer represent the party whose manifesto you were elected on, your constituents should have the chance to decide whether they want to vote for you as an Independent or elect someone else.

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Just out of curiosity:would you have said the same of Winston Churchill, who switched parties twice?