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To think my friend stopped talking to me because I received a settlement from work?

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 10:36

I recently went through a tough time at my last workplace and ended up receiving a settlement after being treated horribly. It was a stressful experience, but the outcome helped me feel some sense of justice. However, ever since I told my friend about it, she’s been distant and barely spoken to me.

We used to be really close, but now she’s completely withdrawn, and I can’t help but wonder if it’s related to the settlement. There’s been no argument or falling out, but it feels like my news changed something. I’ve tried reaching out, but she’s just cold or makes excuses not to talk. I thought she’d be happy for me, but instead, it feels like she’s cut me off.

AIBU to think she’s stopped talking to me because of the settlement? Or am I overthinking this and it’s just a coincidence?

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90yomakeuproom · 23/09/2024 19:20

You've disagreed, been snappy and rude in most of your responses. So maybe if you've spoken to her like that it may have something to do with it, not your money.

CheekyMoose · 23/09/2024 19:18

browneyes77 · 23/09/2024 18:28

When you say you’ve tried reaching out, what have you said to her when you have?

Have you asked her outright what the problem is?

Or has it just been more of a “Hi, how are you. Everything ok?” type thing.

Yeah my reaching out been more than just casual check-ins. I’ve tried to express my concerns and ask how she’s doing, but the responses have often been cold or evasive. I haven’t specifically asked her outright about the problem yet, but it feels like there’s a barrier whenever I try to contact her.

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browneyes77 · 23/09/2024 18:28

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:09

I mentioned in my post that whenever I’ve tried reaching out, she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk. It’s been a few months of this now, which makes me hesitant to invite her out.

When you say you’ve tried reaching out, what have you said to her when you have?

Have you asked her outright what the problem is?

Or has it just been more of a “Hi, how are you. Everything ok?” type thing.

Fastback · 23/09/2024 14:12

It’s clearly simple jealousy. She hates that you’d got a pay out from an employer for their shit treatment of you. You have money now. She does t.

Of course it’s not her being morally affronted by it 😂

PixieLaLar · 22/09/2024 22:41

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:07

Actually, I know she’s been bullied in the workplace before, so maybe that’s playing a role in how she’s reacting now.

Edited

Oh that’s interesting and might explain her reaction. Maybe she’s feeling resentful towards you because you managed to stand up for yourself when she didn’t….Whatever the reason though you have done nothing wrong OP.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 22/09/2024 20:16

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:09

I mentioned in my post that whenever I’ve tried reaching out, she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk. It’s been a few months of this now, which makes me hesitant to invite her out.

Hmm ok. There was nothing in your earlier posts to suggest this has been going on for months. And "reaching out " could have just been hi how's it going for all anyone here knew, hence the many suggestions of actual ways of trying one more time. If you think there's a friendship worth saving. But going from your updates I don't think you really think there is, and I don't think you were really posting for advice, and that's fine. I'm sorry you've lost a friend and I wish you well.

Mary46 · 22/09/2024 19:56

Jealousy not nice. Hard know op. I would phase her out. My neighbour was saying parents went sour after exam results. You could def believe it!

Tiredofallthis101 · 22/09/2024 19:32

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:16

I appreciate your perspective, but I’ve mentioned multiple times that she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk when I’ve reached out. In the early part of this thread, I also mentioned that while she was aware of what I was going through, she wasn’t particularly supportive during the process, especially regarding the settlement. She often scaremongered me and suggested I should just take £10k, while I ultimately fought for much more. So, I don’t feel I 'owe' her anything. It's definitely not about my pride; it’s more about how she has reacted since I shared my news.

Fair enough, if it is more that you are upset with her than that you don't want to be rejected then just let thw friendship go. Life's too short to spend it chasing after people you aren't that fond of anyway.

silentassassin · 22/09/2024 19:18

Yes I think you're getting to the root of it now!

I dont think she's a good friend. We all change and grow as people and thats really healthy and normal. As long as we are growing in a good way thats beneficial for us its really not for anyone else to stifle that out of a need to keep us in our perceived "box" because it makes them feel more comfortable that way.

You see this all the time with issues like weight loss/fitness- one friend loses weight and at first people are verbally supportive but then they dont like it when that person changes their lifestyle. If she can only be friends with you as long as she is the "big sister" then its not a very equal friendship and neither is it fair to you because that means you can never grow and develop either.

I think looking back, you'll realise you are better off without her in the long run.

Calliopespa · 22/09/2024 19:17

Jumpingthruhoops · 22/09/2024 18:57

Respectfully, that's bullshit. I wouldn't have someone go cold on me without asking them what the issue is. Not accuse them of it being because of the money, just ask them generally if I had upset them in any way and see what they say.

My guess is it absolutely IS the issue... but of course to admit that would be admitting she's a jealous cow, which she's not going to do, so has opted for the silent treatment instead.

Yes I agree that jealousy isn’t a lazy explanation. Lots of MNers tend to say that; but just because something is a commonly correct explanation doesn’t make it lazy to conclude it. The world is drenched in jealousy.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:16

Tiredofallthis101 · 22/09/2024 18:47

I think if it has been a d3cent friendship you owe it to her to ask her out to celebrate the settlement. You could just say sorry you've not been able to catch up for a while but you feel you owe big sister a meal for all her support. If she blows you off then fine, you tried your best. Maybe she feels like you don't value the relationship as much as she did given you didn't bother to tell her your news (in her eyes). I'd decide which is more important, your pride or yhe relationship. If your pride is more important and/or she's annoyed you too much don't make any further effort. She might come back eventually.

I appreciate your perspective, but I’ve mentioned multiple times that she’s been cold and makes excuses not to talk when I’ve reached out. In the early part of this thread, I also mentioned that while she was aware of what I was going through, she wasn’t particularly supportive during the process, especially regarding the settlement. She often scaremongered me and suggested I should just take £10k, while I ultimately fought for much more. So, I don’t feel I 'owe' her anything. It's definitely not about my pride; it’s more about how she has reacted since I shared my news.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:13

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 18:47

You have hit her in the self esteem.

She had herself in the role of "big sister", so the grown up compared to you as the "little sister" so the kid. She obviously places great importance on this, hence her trying to undermine your efforts to increase your settlement with her not so subtle attempts to imply you are not as capable as her, the grown up, as you are "only a kid".

But you won. You proved her wrong and you did a big girl grown up thing all on your own and that takes you out of your baby sister box. And she doesnt like it. She first met you when you were 16 and I suspect in her head you have always been 16, and now she has to acknowledge that you're not a kid anymore.

Its rather like the mother who still tries to boss her adult kids around as a self styled Matriarch because they cant face not being needed in that role anymore.

ETA.....does she make a big deal about helping people or doing things for people? Sounds like she needs to be needed and making sure everyone knows how much she does for others, and you have shown that you dont need her so she doesnt need you anymore as you dont validate her existence.

Edited

I see what you’re saying. It does feel like her need to be the supportive ‘big sister’ has shifted with my recent achievements. I’ve noticed her trying to undermine my efforts, which makes me wonder if it’s less about the money and more about her own insecurities and how she perceives our roles.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 19:07

Theguests · 22/09/2024 18:47

Could she have suffered something similar in the past and it’s only you receiving the settlement that’s dredged it all up for her?

Actually, I know she’s been bullied in the workplace before, so maybe that’s playing a role in how she’s reacting now.

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Jumpingthruhoops · 22/09/2024 18:57

YaCannyKickYaGrannyInTheShin · 22/09/2024 12:10

It could be absolutely any reason you can think of.

It may be jealousy but that's often the lazy 'go to' assumption.

As frustrating as it is, if she's not going to tell you, there's nothing you can really do.

Respectfully, that's bullshit. I wouldn't have someone go cold on me without asking them what the issue is. Not accuse them of it being because of the money, just ask them generally if I had upset them in any way and see what they say.

My guess is it absolutely IS the issue... but of course to admit that would be admitting she's a jealous cow, which she's not going to do, so has opted for the silent treatment instead.

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:53

Itiswhysofew · 22/09/2024 18:33

Message her, "What's up friend? Why the recent distance? Want to tell me/have a chat ?"

I’ve mentioned that my previous attempts were met with coldness and excuses, so I’m hesitant.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:51

CoastalCalm · 22/09/2024 18:33

I’d be miffed you hadn’t bothered to tell me if I’d supported you through a long process. In your situation yes take a day or two but then tell her and maybe send some
flowers recognising her involvement

I guess you missed the comment right at the start of the thread where I explained: “She was aware of what I was going through, but I wouldn’t say she was particularly supportive during the process, especially regarding the settlement. It’s interesting you mention different values - maybe that’s part of it. She actually didn’t agree with me fighting as hard as I did, even though she was angered by the treatment I received. She often scaremongered me and didn’t believe in my ability to negotiate, she suggested I should just take £10k and call it a day. In the end, I fought for much more and got around 4x that amount. It makes me wonder if her views on handling the situation affected how she sees me now.”

I took a couple of days to process everything and when she checked in, I let her know. Given all I had going on, there’s nothing more I could have done, and I’m not going to feel guilty for that.

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Tiredofallthis101 · 22/09/2024 18:47

I think if it has been a d3cent friendship you owe it to her to ask her out to celebrate the settlement. You could just say sorry you've not been able to catch up for a while but you feel you owe big sister a meal for all her support. If she blows you off then fine, you tried your best. Maybe she feels like you don't value the relationship as much as she did given you didn't bother to tell her your news (in her eyes). I'd decide which is more important, your pride or yhe relationship. If your pride is more important and/or she's annoyed you too much don't make any further effort. She might come back eventually.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2024 18:47

You have hit her in the self esteem.

She had herself in the role of "big sister", so the grown up compared to you as the "little sister" so the kid. She obviously places great importance on this, hence her trying to undermine your efforts to increase your settlement with her not so subtle attempts to imply you are not as capable as her, the grown up, as you are "only a kid".

But you won. You proved her wrong and you did a big girl grown up thing all on your own and that takes you out of your baby sister box. And she doesnt like it. She first met you when you were 16 and I suspect in her head you have always been 16, and now she has to acknowledge that you're not a kid anymore.

Its rather like the mother who still tries to boss her adult kids around as a self styled Matriarch because they cant face not being needed in that role anymore.

ETA.....does she make a big deal about helping people or doing things for people? Sounds like she needs to be needed and making sure everyone knows how much she does for others, and you have shown that you dont need her so she doesnt need you anymore as you dont validate her existence.

Theguests · 22/09/2024 18:47

Could she have suffered something similar in the past and it’s only you receiving the settlement that’s dredged it all up for her?

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:47

Calliopespa · 22/09/2024 18:29

How was the friendship before that moose? Some people really prefer to have friendships where they feel the other person is a little bit more unfortunate than them to make them feel good about themselves. Maybe you got out of her shadow and it no longer worked for her.

The friendship seemed fine before this, or at least I thought it was. We’ve known each other a long time, and I never felt like it was about one of us being more fortunate. But now that you mention it, her attitude did shift once I started standing up for myself and fighting harder for what I deserved. It does make me wonder if that’s part of the issue.

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CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:44

Starlightstarbright3 · 22/09/2024 18:13

At this point - I would probably drop her a message / phone call depending on how you communicate .

say you don’t seem yourself at all is there something I am missing ? Take your lead from your response or lack of response .

if you don’t looks like you have lost a friend or someone who never really a friend .

what does your gut instinct tell you ? Do you think it could be something else ? Not money related ?

My previous attempts have been met with coldness and excuses. It’s frustrating because it feels like her reaction is tied to the money.

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TheHistorian · 22/09/2024 18:43

CheekyMoose · 22/09/2024 18:21

I can see how that might happen. However, I don’t think that’s the case here. She was supportive during the process, but when I finally shared that I resolved everything, she went radio silent. It feels more like a shift in her attitude rather than guilt over past advice.

I had something similar with a friend who attended court with me when my ex-husband wanted to stop paying me maintenance. It was a horrendous couple of years and I was very grateful for the support. She was encouraging me to accept a very low offer which would have meant me having to take in a lodger to keep my house.

I ploughed on and was awarded over twenty times the amount offered. Since then she has made comments about me "being all about the money" and her husband would have "hidden the money too" if it had been him. Pure jealousy. I've backed right away from her now (friendship was always very one-sided anyway)

The lesson is not to share details of finances with anyone even if they are 'supporting' you. You have no idea what they're really thinking.

RecallRecall · 22/09/2024 18:40

Possibly she thinks you were being a bit grabby Op? Is it a job where your settlement will eventually be paid by the taxpayer or customers or something.

CoastalCalm · 22/09/2024 18:33

I’d be miffed you hadn’t bothered to tell me if I’d supported you through a long process. In your situation yes take a day or two but then tell her and maybe send some
flowers recognising her involvement

Itiswhysofew · 22/09/2024 18:33

Message her, "What's up friend? Why the recent distance? Want to tell me/have a chat ?"