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Negativity around boys from mums of girls

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mills8 · 22/09/2024 07:55

Yesterday we found out we are expecting our second baby boy which we are both really excited about. My first little boy, almost 3 is nothing but an absolute joy. He's so chatty, sweet, hilarious, kind and loving and everything with him has always been so easy, he's been a dream to raise and I feel so lucky to be having another. If I could copy and paste him I'd have 10 of him. He's the blonde haired blue eyed boy I always saw in my mind when I pictured him.

Yesterday I seen a post on social media from a mother having her second boy and how disappointed she was, the comments were absolutely filled with people saying the same and how disappointed they were and so many mothers of girls saying they were terrified their precious baby girls were going to be boys and they would never want one so could understand the disappointment. It's not just on that post though, I have seen it countless times on here too and other posts on SM and it's really sad, why is there such negativity around boys? Especially second ones, people seem to really pity parents having a second boy. Is it people just being narrow minded? Why do people have kids if they're set on only one sex? I feel quite sad about the negativity and hoping to hear from some wise mumsnetters. Am I really going to be missing out when they are older?

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JemimaTiggywinkles · 22/09/2024 11:41

This happens in both directions. Mums of boys saying they're glad they don't have to deal with bitchy girls or that they're glad their husbands get to raise a son. It's gender stereotypes and it is bullshit.

However, I bet the smug mums of girls would have been smug mums of boys if they'd had boys instead, and vice versa.

sunbum · 22/09/2024 11:38

The blue eyed blond posts are AI surely? Ridiculous. My 4 boys have brown hair and green or brown eyes .... I still got the pitying looks, how do you cope, boys are so boisterous, dirty etc comments from mothers with multiple girls. Anecdotal but I'll let you guess whose kids caused most drama in the teenage years ...

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 11:34

mills8 · 22/09/2024 11:24

Yes precisely this, I can't believe some people are clutching at straws that much and brining race into it and assuming I wouldn't love a ginger child, absolute complete madness and really not even worth responding to 😂

I’m not “clutching at straws” , what straws and why would I be clutching them? My toes did genuinely curl at that part of your OP.

Also- why is it ok for you to state you are over joyed / happy that you had “the blonde haired blue eyed boy [you] always saw in [your] mind when [you] pictured him” , and you would love to have him ten times over, but it’s not ok to be happy about having the little girl someone might have pictured in their mind when thinking of their future child?

Why if someone says they are so happy they had girls - that implies they are ignorant , wouldn’t love a boy just the same, and that they are a sexist. But you can talk about the “blond haired blue eyed boy” you always pictured - and having him 10 times over- and it’s totally ok and obvious that this has nothing to do with race and obviously you would still love your child if they were ginger? Makes no sense.

StampOnTheGround · 22/09/2024 11:33

I have one fantastic son and I'm currently pregnant with number 2, I would be absolutely delighted and extremely lucky if I was to have another boy - I think I'll get snappy with anyone who tries to say otherwise!

thunderstormsunday · 22/09/2024 11:33

Born perfect blue eyed blonde

This is now being downright provocative.

PutOnYourRedShoesAndLetsDance · 22/09/2024 11:32

Congratulations.
Don't let the negative posts get you down.
I had two girls.
My eldest now has 3 teenage boys.
Born perfect blue eyed blonde.
Age 19 17 and 16. They are the most kind caring boys anyone could wish for.
Eldest and youngest ( ASD) home educated but eldest now at Uni( lives at home).
Middle one just started college ( A Levels).
They adore me their Granny and would do anything for me.
Never been in trouble.
Daughter brought them up on her own.. with my help and a whole amount of her wonderful friends.
She has now gone back to work full time.
They help with the cleaning/ washing.. keep their rooms tidy.
Look after the 3 cats.
Buy her presents for no reason .
I feel well blessed.
I honestly think her boys were easier than she was lol.

sunbum · 22/09/2024 11:28

Get used to it OP. I have 4 boys, all teens now, and its like this constantly all the way from some (not all) mothers of girls. Its quite amusing when they have a 3rd or 4th and its a boy.

thunderstormsunday · 22/09/2024 11:26

@mills8 i get that and I think everyone does, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t read a bit uncomfortably.

mills8 · 22/09/2024 11:24

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/09/2024 11:19

@Notmollybutdolly I presumed it meant that OP imagined a child to be like this because this is how herself and partner look. I presume everyone imagines a fantasy baby to be in their own image or their partners.

Yes precisely this, I can't believe some people are clutching at straws that much and brining race into it and assuming I wouldn't love a ginger child, absolute complete madness and really not even worth responding to 😂

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luckydaytoday · 22/09/2024 11:23

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/09/2024 10:31

I think it can work both ways where men prefer boys and women girls. I would find both of these attitudes really troubling. When they say I want a boy they don't mean it, they mean they want a boy who likes soccer or is a boys boy. Likewise they want a girl who fits the girl cliche of wearing pink and playing with dolls. If the child doesn't fit their very limited view they will be disappointed and no doubt the child will pick up on it. I have to say, if someone expresses a particularly strong view, I immediately think they are going to be a shit narrow minded parent and lose respect.

Agreed. Interestingly I only see preference for girls expressed online. In real life I know men who've expressed a strong preference for boys, and it's always laughed off as "Oh he's just being honest".

thunderstormsunday · 22/09/2024 11:22

Are we really saying that as many men as women visit their parents regularly, take on care of elderly relatives, even care for grandchildren?

SallyWD · 22/09/2024 11:20

Plantlady10 · 22/09/2024 11:15

I don't understand why people say there is no difference between boys and girls in threads like this, but from other threads people clearly think there is a difference between men and women and the relationship with daughters/sons - as PP have said, the MIL hate, the anti-men sentiment ect.

I don't know of anyone who has a gender preference because of stereotypical football/ballet reasons. It's more based on who the child will become as an adult. I see it on here and in real life that women tend to be closer to their families than men

MN loves to hate on men, then gets outraged that someone might lean towards wanting a girl

But that is yet another stereotype "Women tend to be closer to their families than men". Genuinely not what I see in my family, my husband's family, the families of my friends. I don't actually know anyone where it's the case.
I'm not saying there aren't differences between men and women but personality is far more important in terms of family relationships.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/09/2024 11:19

@Notmollybutdolly I presumed it meant that OP imagined a child to be like this because this is how herself and partner look. I presume everyone imagines a fantasy baby to be in their own image or their partners.

FridayFeelingmidweek · 22/09/2024 11:17

Congratulations!

I think there is a growing feeling around having boys because, as women, we have become so aware of toxic masculinity, sexism etc etc, so perhaps there is an element of 'another man in the world'. However we can all try to bring our sons up to understanding their role, to be respectful, call out sexism, and not be part of toxic masculinity/entitlement.

Krampers · 22/09/2024 11:16

YaWeeFurryBastard · 22/09/2024 09:00

I don’t agree. Also work with a lot of high earners (and am one myself) and it’s usually women prefer girls men prefer boys.

Thanks utter nonsense as a high earner myself.

Plantlady10 · 22/09/2024 11:15

I don't understand why people say there is no difference between boys and girls in threads like this, but from other threads people clearly think there is a difference between men and women and the relationship with daughters/sons - as PP have said, the MIL hate, the anti-men sentiment ect.

I don't know of anyone who has a gender preference because of stereotypical football/ballet reasons. It's more based on who the child will become as an adult. I see it on here and in real life that women tend to be closer to their families than men

MN loves to hate on men, then gets outraged that someone might lean towards wanting a girl

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 11:09

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:59

Why would you be disappointed just out of curiosity? This makes less sense to me than gender disappointment…

I kind of meant that they wouldn’t look like us at all - ie that they certainly weren’t my husbands. Although clumsy comment to be fair because we have had a couple red heads crop into the mix for cousins! But yes, every single one of the cousins on my husbands side and on mine bar two red heads are vvv blonde!

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:59

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 10:55

I mean I’d be pretty surprised and probably a little disappointed if mine weren’t blonde hair blue eyes looking at my husband and I 😂. But yes, it is a little strange to comment on it!

Why would you be disappointed just out of curiosity? This makes less sense to me than gender disappointment…

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 10:55

OhmygodDont · 22/09/2024 10:53

Yeah. All those poor brown eyes boys or brown haired or ginger clearly. And let’s not get started on race because I don’t know many blonde haired blue eyed Afrikaans

I mean I’d be pretty surprised and probably a little disappointed if mine weren’t blonde hair blue eyes looking at my husband and I 😂. But yes, it is a little strange to comment on it!

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:55

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

Yeh I noticed that 😬. It made my toes curl a bit.

Henriette9 · 22/09/2024 10:53

I’ve** heard this too

OhmygodDont · 22/09/2024 10:53

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

Yeah. All those poor brown eyes boys or brown haired or ginger clearly. And let’s not get started on race because I don’t know many blonde haired blue eyed Afrikaans

Henriette9 · 22/09/2024 10:52

RitaFires · 22/09/2024 10:28

I'm just hoping for a healthy baby. It took years of trying and fertility treatment to get pregnant and it's still early days for me.

My best friend and my sister in law both got a lot of feedback from people that it was ideal to have their first child be a boy but much less ideal that their second children were also boys. I think that's very silly as each child is their own person, they didn't accidentally receive two of the same thing.

feedback from people that it was ideal to have their first child be a boy but much less ideal that their second children were also boys.

Yes, it be heard this too. But it’s because if there was a Venn diagram of a) people who might have “gender” disappointment and b) people who say gendered bullshit like “I want a boy first then a girl so her big brother can look after her 😍” there’d probably be a bit of an overlap.

My DD can perfectly handle herself without a big brother. 😂

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:48

duchessofsilk · 22/09/2024 09:57

I find it interesting that these sorts of comments are sternly corrected but the women saying they wanted boys are not

I think anyone who feels that strongly about a certain gender should maybe think about their ability to parent effectively. If you are literally going to be bereft by having one gender and not love them as much (which is what is implied) then thats a serious issue.

As I say, nothing wrong with having a preference but acting like you're going to be devastated with one gender is quite troubling for that child and it will affect them if thats how you genuinely feel.

This is ridiculous. So many people feel strongly about this. It doesn’t mean they don’t love their children that they bring into the world as much as any other parent, but the grief of never having the little girl or boy you imagined is also real. Now you are telling these parents they shouldn’t have had children at all! 🤦🏼‍♀️ Give your head a wobble please.