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Negativity around boys from mums of girls

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mills8 · 22/09/2024 07:55

Yesterday we found out we are expecting our second baby boy which we are both really excited about. My first little boy, almost 3 is nothing but an absolute joy. He's so chatty, sweet, hilarious, kind and loving and everything with him has always been so easy, he's been a dream to raise and I feel so lucky to be having another. If I could copy and paste him I'd have 10 of him. He's the blonde haired blue eyed boy I always saw in my mind when I pictured him.

Yesterday I seen a post on social media from a mother having her second boy and how disappointed she was, the comments were absolutely filled with people saying the same and how disappointed they were and so many mothers of girls saying they were terrified their precious baby girls were going to be boys and they would never want one so could understand the disappointment. It's not just on that post though, I have seen it countless times on here too and other posts on SM and it's really sad, why is there such negativity around boys? Especially second ones, people seem to really pity parents having a second boy. Is it people just being narrow minded? Why do people have kids if they're set on only one sex? I feel quite sad about the negativity and hoping to hear from some wise mumsnetters. Am I really going to be missing out when they are older?

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F1rugby23 · 22/09/2024 08:50

Once you child is born they are who they are you would never change them, regardless of their sex. I have 2 boys, completely different to each other, each child is unique. I love them so much and am lucky, not because of their sex, but because of who they are.

Hate all this daughter for life, son until they find a wife/ evil MIL bullshit too.

Wonderfulstuff · 22/09/2024 08:48

It's weird. I'm firmly in the camp of boy or girl, a baby is a wonderful blessing either way.

The SM trope of insta perfect obedient little girls dressed the same as mummy with complicated hair dos (see the whole school hair trend on SM - who are these children who will sit on a tablet whilst their mum gels and waxes their hair into epic sculptures at 7:30 in the morning??) has become almost like an advertisement for motherhood and I guess a lot of people invest in that and then become disappointed when it doesn't happen for them or feel bad for those it doesn't happen for maybe.

Unicorntearsofgin · 22/09/2024 08:44

Honestly OP, I have one of each and I was initially a little disappointed over the boy. I think there was some unresolved trauma over a past SA.

I can honestly say he is absolutely incredible and I love him to pieces. We all have expectations that aren’t necessarily realistic.

Newsenmum · 22/09/2024 08:44

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Because it sounds like you’re saying you’re lucky to have your two girls instead of boys.

OneHappyGreenSloth · 22/09/2024 08:40

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Gelasring · 22/09/2024 08:40

People love to sound off on the internet and social media. I doubt they even believe half of what they write. As long as your friends and families aren't being arseholes don't even give it a second thought.

Newsenmum · 22/09/2024 08:39

MaggieBsBoat · 22/09/2024 08:10

You get it both ways. My friend booked an abortion at 17 weeks when she found out she was having a girl! She ended up having the baby but still at 12 years old her mum still complains about her sex.
I have three sons and also 2 daughters. They are all a pain in the arse wonderful equally

That’s horrendous!

I know op and then you get people saying boys are ‘easier to raise’ and all this anti girl stuff. I suppose we are women and a lot of men in life are pretty shit. So that’s possibly why.

People need to stop being so rude though. And it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Be negative about a boy and assume he’ll be difficult - he probably will be.

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PreggersWithBaby2 · 22/09/2024 08:38

He's the blonde haired blue eyed boy I always saw in my mind when I pictured him.

But.... My DD is the little person I always pictured when I imagined myself as a mother.

I think gender disappointment is not uncommon and definitely goes ways, and is only a huge problem when either it doesn't go away for the parent experiencing it or else when other people are trying to force it upon you (e.g. I'm getting a lot of "oh you must be hoping for a boy this time"... no I genuinely couldn't give a shite either way!!)

MazeRunner · 22/09/2024 08:38

I think it’s one thing to have gender disappointment but it’s another for someone else to say ‘oh poor you’
that’s just plain rude and unnecessary.

I do see more threads on here about the mum wanting a girl & feeling quite upset about having a boy but I also see the cult like ‘boy mum’ or ‘mum of boys’ thing on social media a lot (& find it rather weird)

I have one of each & have had my fair share of unsolicited comments.
An old woman once told me ‘I’m glad I had boys, never wanted a girl’ when she saw me and my daughter playing together at a cafe. I suspect she had indeed wanted a girl.
I told her ‘that’s a very strange thing to say & not very nice is it?’
I’ve also had someone else tell me “girls are bad tempered”
Nice generalisation there!

When I was pregnant with my 2nd dc (a boy) another lady said ‘oh, you’ll be wanting a boy next won’t you, much better to have one of each’ I had similar comments a few times from strangers🫠
I just used to reply ‘ Actually, I’ll be happy with a healthy baby, I’m not fussed about whether they’re a boy or girl’

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 22/09/2024 08:38

CuttySarcasm · 22/09/2024 08:35

This won't be popular, but I find this is more of a class thing, the upper/middle class seem to be very happy with their boys... it's a lower class thing to have a 'bestie' girl and create a mini version of yourself.

I think it’s more of a narcissistic thing, the upper/middle class mothers who do this are just more subtle about creating a mini version of themselves.

MissyB1 · 22/09/2024 08:35

I forgot to add I think the amount of of negativity towards boys (usually stereotyping them dreadfully), on sites like this one doesn't help. There is an assumption they will all be trouble makers at school, they will treat girls and women badly etc..

CuttySarcasm · 22/09/2024 08:35

This won't be popular, but I find this is more of a class thing, the upper/middle class seem to be very happy with their boys... it's a lower class thing to have a 'bestie' girl and create a mini version of yourself.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 22/09/2024 08:34

Businessflake · 22/09/2024 08:09

Sounds like you are exactly the kind of person the OP is talking about.

What on earth is wrong with feeling lucky to have two beautiful daughters? Most people feel lucky to have their children. She didn’t say because they are girls.
As expected this just turned into a thread about how awful it is to raise girls and how mums of girls are smug and only interested in having a mini me and pretty dresses 🙄

MargaretThursday · 22/09/2024 08:33

I have seen just as much negativity around having all girls as all boys, on here probably more.
I think though a lot of people would think the ideal is one of each, so you would have had similar comments from the same people if you were having a second girl.

What there is far more of is parents of boys complaining about these comments, particularly aiming it at mothers of girls. I don't think I've ever seen a post like this the other way round.

I have a both, always wanted both, and all have their own joys and challenges.

MissyB1 · 22/09/2024 08:33

Yes I agree it was even like that when I had my second ds 29 years ago, girls were considered "first prize". I went on to have my third ds and the comments I got from some people were downright rude. My boys are lovely, I had them all round for dinner last night, we had a great evening.

Wheelz46 · 22/09/2024 08:26

I don't understand gender disappointment either, I just felt blessed to be able to have the children I do have.

I will never forget after my second son was born someone saying to me "oh never mind, better luck next time" but a friend who had a second girl was met with "oh how adorable, they will have such a lovely bond" (we were stood together at the time too, same person who made the comment to us both).

It really infuriated me, I will always feel like the luckiest mum ever with my adorable boys, they are truly amazing and make me so proud everyday.

coffeecoffeecoffee36 · 22/09/2024 08:23

Massive congratulations on your second baby!

The mind boggles at how much people care about the sex of other people's babies. Interestingly I have experienced this but with having two girls. I couldn't have cared less what I had, especially with my second after suffering losses and a difficult pregnancy. But the amount of tone deaf comments about how disappointed I must be, how my DH must be disappointed, how I was going to have a nightmare time once they're teenagers and surely I wasn't going to stop at 2 children if I hadn't yet had a boy!

I never know what to say in the moment because I'm always so shocked that people have the audacity to say these things aloud, not to mention it couldn't be further from the truth. I love my girls and I would have loved them just as much had they been boys, we are so blessed to have had our children no matter their sex.

Enko · 22/09/2024 08:22

Op my ds is 22 now. Taller than me and one of my favourite people in the world. He was different to raise to his sisters but oh I wouldn't want the world without him.

I find it goes the other way too though. When I was expecting no 2 and she was a girl (I did want a girl as I wanted dd1 to have a sister but would have been happy with a boy) "people said awww shame". And "are you disappointed? ' when ds arrived we got "oh you got your boy" (actually I just wanted another baby)

Dd2s best friend is expecting a boy and their circle is thrilled and so excited for them. Will be the first child in their friend group and he has 3 excited "aunts to be" waiting to spoil him

Boys are amazing and I utterly get your wish for10 of your ds.

lemonyellows · 22/09/2024 08:20

I am a mum of 2 boys. I genuinely had no preference. I wouldn't change a thing. My boys are fantastic.

I have 2 close friends who have both told me that they have the perfect family of 1 boy and 1 girl without even trying to offend. People just don't think about their comments. But they also both say "boys are like this" "girls are more like this". No that is your child you are talking about, not all boys or all girls. Everyone is different regardless of their genitals

Meadowfinch · 22/09/2024 08:20

I've never understood it op.

I have four sisters, and having my DS has been a delight in contrast. He's a kind, calm, logical, happy teen. The lack of drama and spite has been a joy. I wouldn't change a thing. 😊

Mojodojocasahous · 22/09/2024 08:15

It’s so weird because in most cultures boys are favoured over girls and the patriarchy is alive and well so in theory boys should do better.

I think some of it is a misguided attempt at having a “mini me” - a best friend they can dress up and hang out with 🤮

Sure it causes long term harm, not good to put such emphasis on gender and gender “ideals” that’s causing a whole bucket of problems for this gen.

mills8 · 22/09/2024 08:14

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 22/09/2024 08:06

Yes there definitely seems to be more 'pity' about having boys. It's strange. I have 3 sons and when my last was born one person even said 'don't worry I'm sure next time it will be a girl'
not even a congratulations!

DP called his mother yesterday to tell her and the first thing she said was 'omg is it a girl?!' and then her reaction when DP told her it was a boy was clear disappointment. I feel like not really telling people if this is the reaction I'm going to get.

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Namenamchange · 22/09/2024 08:14

We call them SMOGs, smug mum
of girls. Boys are seen as the consultation prize, something to be pitied, particularly the 2nd, a situation that you sort of failed in.
it’s unkind, and it’s often women who tell you how unlucky you are.

in a way your are though, just look at the thousands of post about the hated mils, so maybe we are to be pitied

Completelyjo · 22/09/2024 08:11

You feel sad because other people had a preference? Why, it has no baring on you? Why do you need people to tell you how good boys are?

It's always the mother of 2 girls with the 'I'm soo lucky I only have girls'

Don’t agree, I see mothers of 2 boys saying the same thing. How lucky they are to have boys, how glad they are to not have a teenage girl, how difficult girls are etc.