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Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 08:40

Yes she is but men don't need to go along with it.

KimberleyClark · 22/09/2024 08:38

New2thisshizzle · 22/09/2024 08:36

It is the society we live in. One which tells men women are objects in so many subtle and overt ways. Objects are things that are used. That's why they can queue without questioning themselves. They've forgotten she's a human being.

She is perpetuating this message too though.

Yes she is.

Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 08:37

If an 18 year old doesn't know what respectful behavior towards women is then we really are in trouble. I think the behavior of this woman is sickening too but just because it's offered it doesn't have to be accepted.

As I said up thread. Wouldn't it be great if no man turned up and instead made a collective stand to say no this type of behavior is disrespectful.

5128gap · 22/09/2024 08:36

NonsuchCastle · 22/09/2024 00:48

Nobody is "desperate to blame women". We are discussing one particular (at least 35 year old) woman.

As for bringing up sons to respect women etc. well that's so obvious it doesn't need to be said.

We're talking about the woman and what she is doing, not the boys and men. I am quite sure she is "damaged" but it doesn't make her actions any less disgusting.

No. We're talking about the women AND the men, thank you, as it takes both for this to have occurred. You might prefer to gloss over the disgusting male behaviour in the scenario, but given its by far the greater problem here, in a ratio of one to five thousand in fact, its very much worth a mention.

New2thisshizzle · 22/09/2024 08:36

It is the society we live in. One which tells men women are objects in so many subtle and overt ways. Objects are things that are used. That's why they can queue without questioning themselves. They've forgotten she's a human being.

She is perpetuating this message too though.

NowImNotDoingIt · 22/09/2024 08:27

On one hand we have a serious problem with peer on peer abuse, sexual harassment/assaults etc. in our secondary schools, but at the same time all these (at least ) 18 yos are vulnerable, inexperienced, poor little boys being taken for a ride.

PeachyKeane · 22/09/2024 08:26

Absolutely awful 😖

5128gap · 22/09/2024 08:24

shuggles · 22/09/2024 00:32

@Lovefromjuliaxo Imagine what MN would say if this was a man. The double standards on here are a joke.

Indeed. If an extremely handsome man said he was looking for female students to have sex with so he could upload the videos to his onlyfans to make money, there would be fucking pitchforks and torches.

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Exactly as there has been on this thread when the person doing it is a woman. This woman has been called all sorts on here. Very strong condemnation, personal insults etc. In fact i dont think ive ever seen such a negative response to behaviour. So where are the double standards? Or are you saying a man would have had it easier?

goestheweasel · 22/09/2024 08:22

And whilst I understand the argument of "decent men wouldn't fall for it" I can still picture some quite young and naive 19 year olds who aren't inherently bad people, just haven't emotionally developed yet, perhaps with some peer pressure thrown in, maybe some even desperate to lose their virginity, who don't fully consider the issue with it if the woman is literally inviting them and only later understand the ramifications.

If it was fully grown men I would roll my eyes, but the decision making element of the brain is not fully developed until around 25, she is preying on immaturity to make money on her channel.

malificent7 · 22/09/2024 08:22

Im sorry but on whst planet is she " old looking?" Missing the point entirely I know but she does not look old.
Has feminism served us at all?

AmazingBouncingFerret · 22/09/2024 08:21

Fucking grim. They’ll be calling her Bonnie Blue Waffle in no time.

goestheweasel · 22/09/2024 08:18

Imagine if a man was touring the UK to sleep with students, film them and post on his subscription service...I think she's taking advantage of young people who may not be fully considering the long term consequences of being filmed, it's quite predatory don't you think? But oh no she's a woman so it's fine?

malificent7 · 22/09/2024 08:18

I think it should be a crime personally. Why would a woman that beautiful want to behave like this when she could make her money in other ways...yuck.

PortiasBiscuit · 22/09/2024 08:12

DD is at NTU so she’ll have some competition..

Whatineed · 22/09/2024 08:09

I'd never heard of her before this, but her Instagram account is interesting, she seems absolutely desperate to strike up some kind of deal with Pepsi/Pepsi Max. She mentions and shows a can or bottle in every video.

Does she really think a Global drinks brand would proudly sponsor a porn actress??

Bizarre life.

JMSA · 22/09/2024 08:07

Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 08:01

The type of men who will queue up for this are not good and decent.

Exactly. And I certainly wouldn't be losing sleep over the outcome of this for them, whether 18 or 58.

Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 08:01

The type of men who will queue up for this are not good and decent.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/09/2024 07:59

The targeting of young people is grim, but things like this Aldi add to the misogyny in society, the view that consent is sellable, that women are commodities to be used. I'd be disgusted if my son went near a situation like this

fuzzybritches · 22/09/2024 07:57

@Alucard55 she'll probably have some sort of security/entourage. But presumably that won't account for the unwashed and unattractive?

Alucard55 · 22/09/2024 07:55

fuzzybritches · 22/09/2024 07:24

Thing is, most decent boys/men would not find this an attractive prospect. I know they are wired a little differently to us but what is enticing about queuing up to have a 2 minute go on some old looking woman who your mate has been at a minute earlier? It's grim.

The only men I can see going for this are your archetypal drunk 'jock' style rugby boys. Your stiflers from American pie who find the whole thing hilarious not sexy. Either that or weirdos, scruffs and perverts.

So it makes me wonder who exactly she is allowing to 'bonk' her. Does she have a vetting system? If the local tramp turned up would she let him?

That's a good point. Is there any vetting and is she aware that there's a good chance that sexual predators/rapists will turn up to have a go?

OuterSpaceCadet · 22/09/2024 07:28

5128gap · 21/09/2024 23:12

I'm glad you posted this. I was starting to think I was going mad myself! All this focus on one (admittedly highly questionable) woman, yet seemingly no concern that 5000 men are up for it. Some with wives, many only just into adulthood, yet already acting like a pack of animals. I'm shocked that people are so distracted by the 'bad woman' that they can't see the truly horrifying aspect of this. No decent man or boy should go anywhere near this. Yet thousands are. That's far far more concerning than the existence and behaviour of this one woman.

Agree.

It is the society we live in. One which tells men women are objects in so many subtle and overt ways. Objects are things that are used. That's why they can queue without questioning themselves. They've forgotten she's a human being.

The fathers and uncles that really believe she's 25 are predatory as fuck. They ought to be concerned not aroused.

SonjaBarkerFinch · 22/09/2024 07:24

Does no one have self respect anymore?

fuzzybritches · 22/09/2024 07:24

Thing is, most decent boys/men would not find this an attractive prospect. I know they are wired a little differently to us but what is enticing about queuing up to have a 2 minute go on some old looking woman who your mate has been at a minute earlier? It's grim.

The only men I can see going for this are your archetypal drunk 'jock' style rugby boys. Your stiflers from American pie who find the whole thing hilarious not sexy. Either that or weirdos, scruffs and perverts.

So it makes me wonder who exactly she is allowing to 'bonk' her. Does she have a vetting system? If the local tramp turned up would she let him?

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/09/2024 06:55

Lovelysummerdays · 22/09/2024 04:46

I believe there were “fluffers” so essentially other women who’s job it was to ensure the man is hard, ready to ejaculate and wearing a condom. I remember this story at the time, I think the women who came in third still had sex with eighty blokes.

I have no idea what to say to that. Literally. Words fail me. Just why?

Highelf · 22/09/2024 06:53

Putting everything else aside, there is no way she's 25! She looks at the very least late 30s-40