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To think all men are like Diddy?

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Justcurioushere · 21/09/2024 18:03

With the recent (and not so recent) news surrounding Diddy, I can’t help but reflect on how his behaviour epitomises a troubling pattern I see in some men: selfishness, drama, and a complete lack of accountability (to put it lightly). It makes me wonder if this is a common attitude among men.

AIBU to think that many men, like Diddy, prioritise their own desires over the wellbeing of others? Is this something we should be more critical of, or is it just an unfortunate stereotype?

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OhmygodDont · 21/09/2024 20:11

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/09/2024 20:09

You need the know better men. Mine are about as far from this sleazebag as you could get.

As says every women who swear not her Henry. He wouldn’t cheat on her. Doesn’t have the time. Despises cheaters. Was cheated on by an ex.

Oh wait here come the thread where she’s shocked flabbergasted Henry’s been having it off with some young thing from work.

You never truly truly know anyone. The persona they use for you, is different to their work persona away from you, different to their mates from school/college persona. You know the person they show you.

If everyone was an open book nobody would be shocked if cheated on, abused, stolen from, about sexual predators because we would all already know they are all like that.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 21/09/2024 20:10

OP think you are confusing a fairly normal trait of prioritising oneself over other people with being sexual predator. You are also not clear with you are saying all men, most men or many men.

I think that most men prioritise themselves. As do most people generally (with the exception of maybe over one's own children and even then many people will still prioritise themselves).

I do not think all or even most men are sexual predators. But I do think sadly that many are.

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/09/2024 20:09

You need the know better men. Mine are about as far from this sleazebag as you could get.

W0tnow · 21/09/2024 20:07

MouseMama · 21/09/2024 19:02

On the one hand, obviously no, not all men are like this.

On the other hand, far too many men are like this. I have been horrified by the Gisele Pelicot rape trial that at least 80 men living in the area surrounding a small village in rural France wanted to participate in the rape of an unconscious woman - particularly a grandmother.

Same.

Is there a vastly higher proportion of men in that particular area of the world who are animals, hiding in plain sight? And were they ‘lucky’ enough to encounter someone who could indulge them? Or are we surrounded?

CantBelieveNaive · 21/09/2024 20:04

poppyzbrite4 · 21/09/2024 19:06

French feminists are calling it "the banality of male violence" which sums it up, it's become background noise.

Unfortunately it's not just these predators who are the problem, it's society. The law doesn't punish their behaviour when it's relatively minor and it escalates and gets worse.

Many men feel infallible because there are no consequences for their behaviour and they are excused with "boys will be boys".

In the case of prolific sexual predators like Savile, Weinstein, Diddy, Kelly, Epstein, Al Fayed et al everyone knew what they were doing but no one spoke out or tried to stop them.

The survivors knew they wouldn't be believed and the perpetrators thought they were above the law, because of wealth and status.

In order to prevent VAWAG no one should be above the law and we must use the law to punish any deviant sexual behaviour. I would also argue for prosecution in the case of people who knowingly collude with the perpetrator.

Edited

So well put!
I've just watched Dodi the predator and feel so bad for his young victims.
What's so sad is that powerful people are protected and its young girls who are powerless and suffer.
So sad he's dead now so won't be publicly shamed. Am glad he had the pain of losing a son to bear but it didn't stop him being an utter prick.
What has made me think though is the conspiracy theorists who said the institutions are full of abusers, rapists and child abusers were right.
At the time I thought it was very far fetched and unbelievable. That's how naive I was and probably in my 40s.
We women need to wake up and use our voices and written word to speak to the government and newspapers to turn this round.
We also need to put pressure on the legal system to penalize the perpetrators and set up a system that favours the victims and believes them, rather than the other way around instead of the victims being scared and them not getting justice.
Basically we need to step society up to value women as humans. 🤔

Hateam · 21/09/2024 20:04

Statements like all men are like P Diddy just make women look stupid. These women can't be taken seriously.

Hateam · 21/09/2024 20:02

I think a very large number of men would like to be more promiscuous than they actually are.

I think quite large number to men would be unfaithful if they had the opportunity.

I think a tiny number to men are like P Diddy.

stayathomer · 21/09/2024 20:01

I don’t think most are sexual predators but actually yes I think a man is more likely to prioritise his wants and needs than a woman is, yes

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/09/2024 19:59

Well that's a terrifying/depressing/hopeless/helpless thought!!!. I would hope my male dp and adult male sons are as far removed from the Diddys of the world as I am. For fs 😱

SleeplessInWherever · 21/09/2024 19:55

No, all men aren’t like P Diddy.

They’re not all sexual abusers, or even abusers of any kind.

They’re not all avoiding cleaning the toilet by watching OF (?!?), and they don’t all see us as objects they should just have access to.

Some of them are just men, who are going about their lives not constantly threatening people.

Jjiillkkf · 21/09/2024 19:54

I'm so sad and sorry you feel like all men are like this. I did at one point too, certainly many are monsters. But others are truly good.

CantBelieveNaive · 21/09/2024 19:52

ginasevern · 21/09/2024 18:14

Do you mean that it's nearly always men who are sexual predators, who put themselves first even before their own children, who think first and foremost with their dicks no matter what damage it causes to those that love them? Welcome to planet earth OP - where have you been?

Have you seen the ITV X doc on sexual predator Dodi. Absolutely sickening and enabled by Harrods and rank security team, the u all conspired and enabled abuse to going girls 😮😒

OutsideLookingOut · 21/09/2024 19:51

Remember that study about how many men would rape women if they could get away with it? And someone also mentioned the percentage of men who look at child SA, it was shocking.

I think far too many men, even your husbands, your fathers, your brothers, your sons if they had the money and power would abuse it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/09/2024 19:44

The Met Police say (in a civilised, democratic country with laws) 1 in 7 men are dangerous to women.

If you do some maths around 4% of the adult men in the area surrounding Gisele were happy to rape an unconscious drugged woman, so you know many more are raping their wives, girlfriends, friends and family members.

Up to a third of male college students would rape a woman if they could get away with it (depending on how you phrase the question).

14 year old girls are now the most likely demographic to report rape.

NAMALT but TMMALT too many men are like that. Frightening numbers. If there was a war, or civilisation broke down, a good third to a half I wouldn't trust.

You can 'not my Nigel' and 'NAMALT' all you like but a huge number of men are like P Diddy, just without the means and opportunity.

GingerPirate · 21/09/2024 19:43

Oh dear....

OhmygodDont · 21/09/2024 19:39

GingerPirate · 21/09/2024 19:38

My husband?
He is not....
He's the only man in my life, also three decades older.

Sorry but nobody can honestly truest know not my husband not my son.

That’s why people are always shocked. Oh no not John he was a lovely chap.

GingerPirate · 21/09/2024 19:38

HavingABitOfAMare · 21/09/2024 18:57

In what way is your husband like P Diddy?

My husband?
He is not....
He's the only man in my life, also three decades older.

Bedofroses85 · 21/09/2024 19:38

YABVU

OhmygodDont · 21/09/2024 19:37

Diddy may well of been a victim at one point in his career however his chosen to become a very very big perpetrator leaving many victims in his path.

being a victim is no excuse either. Many victims or rather most victims do not go on to become perpetrators.

DryBiscuit · 21/09/2024 19:37

He has ALOT more issues than you have put

He is a wife beating sex addict, rapist pig

And this case will bring up atleast Two big names like him and MANY many more than have been in his house

Its Epstein & Giselle all over agin

This is going to be HUGE

( But its not all men…. Ofcourse it isnt !!! )

Swissvisa · 21/09/2024 19:37

There are too many men like P Diddy. But it is absolutely not all men.

Phase2 · 21/09/2024 19:35

So Diddy is actually a victim?

Hand maidens have found the thread .... namalt, he's a puppet, women are meanies too etc etc like men need anyone supporting them, it's almost like they aren't the more powerful sex.

brentwoods · 21/09/2024 19:35

BeerForMyHorses · 21/09/2024 18:28

Erm what ?

No. Of course the majority of men are not like PDiddy.

He is an abusive, sex trafficking, groomer. Not all men are like this at all.

This. Give over OP. Your life would be a lot more pleasant if you didn't paint half the population as narcissistic sex predators. 🙄

OhNoOhYesOhMy · 21/09/2024 19:33

No.

poppyzbrite4 · 21/09/2024 19:33

MissSkegness1951 · 21/09/2024 19:16

What horrors were inflicted on young Bieber?

This tale is all too familiar in Hollywood.

The African American/ P Diddy being hung out to dry after being encouraged to behave like this by the 'producers' who really run the degenerate music industry.

Coincidence ? -

Kevin Liles stepping down.
Randy Goodman retiring.
Kaz Kobayashi quits.

All bigwigs at Sony and Warner music.

The shit has hit the fan.

So Diddy is actually a victim?