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Loud parenting and grandparenting that goes on and on...

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FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 21/09/2024 15:37

Am I unreasonable to be irritated by the unnecessarily loud, fake/ over enthusiastic "cheerleading" style of child-accompanying that seems to happen when multiple family members accompany or look after one or two small children?

Longer background for the few who can be bothered to read below no need to read it obviously:

I'm very tolerant of child noise (as in noise made by the actual children) but my neighbours have had their little granddaughter all summer, while I was off work and at weekends and oh my goodness the grandparents are so loud! At first I told myself it's nice they're so enthusiastic, but they're in the garden basically cheerleading in kind of loud baby voices for hours every day, and when the parents collect the little girl (coincidentally just after I get in from work on week days) they settle in for an hour before taking her home and join in and there are four of them at it!

I've been noticing similar out and about (two parents with one toddler at the pool were trying to work their child up to whoop and scream by doing so themselves going down the (toddler size) slides and then splashing him and each other directly on the pool steps even though the child himself was playing contentedly and fairly quietly, scooping and pouring water from his little bucket just making the odd comments and smiles to his parents until they got him riled up).

Just now I was out for a walk and an extended family coming up behind me were the same - five adults on foot being loud kind of at two relatively quiet small children on little bikes, with lots of shouted baby talk and cheerleading. They were the only other people around and were maintaining a distance about 30 meters behind me and completely ruined the otherwise potentially very peaceful walk.

YANBU to find the adults annoying or

YABU and a grumpy old woman?

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Kitkatcatflap · 24/09/2024 17:45

Families enjoying their little ones! Stop whinging, if it bothers you that much then get some earphones.

OrangeTeabags · 24/09/2024 17:28

It's the combination of being loud and the showy-off content of what is being said that makes it clear it's for an audience other than the child.

Maybe it's just a thing that British people do & that's why it appears to be a British "hang up".

But it is definitely a thing.

WhenSunnyGetsBlue · 22/09/2024 19:05

I interact like that with my daughter when I'm overtired and have run out out of functioning brain cells. I agree with people who say it's better than the parents/grandparents being on their phone but equally I can see how it would be annoying. I really don't mind kid noise, but living in a flat next to a park, it mildly irritates me to have to listen to children screaming for the last hour of daylight when I'm trying to unwind or get my little one off to sleep, , even worse when parents are encouraging it! I really can empathise with both sides.

Ixon · 22/09/2024 18:53

@Lucy25 Give over. Most of Mumsnet is based in the UK and this thread scream British if you've lived in other countries.

Lucy25 · 22/09/2024 18:06

Ixon · 22/09/2024 17:09

This is a very particular British hang up. You see a group of adults interacting with children at a volume you deem too loud and your first thought is they are somehow performing for you? Or trying to compete with each other? It's a really bizarre read on a strangers motives.

Anyone can comment on Mumsnet, anywhere in the world.How would you know if any of these comments on here, are just from the UK.
Motives?Now that really, is a bizarre comment

NavyBleugh · 22/09/2024 17:44

Lowena76 · 22/09/2024 17:15

Ahh. Like “museum parents”
“look William. A fish! Can you count its scales!” “Look Annabelle that looks like stickman!”
if you can’t beat em join em. I call my daughter Lettice and tell her she can have nettle soup after her harpsichord lesson. My son is either Atila or Horation. Nobody bats an eye in London. Nearly brought Booths in Keswick to a standstill.

😂

Lowena76 · 22/09/2024 17:15

Ahh. Like “museum parents”
“look William. A fish! Can you count its scales!” “Look Annabelle that looks like stickman!”
if you can’t beat em join em. I call my daughter Lettice and tell her she can have nettle soup after her harpsichord lesson. My son is either Atila or Horation. Nobody bats an eye in London. Nearly brought Booths in Keswick to a standstill.

Ixon · 22/09/2024 17:09

This is a very particular British hang up. You see a group of adults interacting with children at a volume you deem too loud and your first thought is they are somehow performing for you? Or trying to compete with each other? It's a really bizarre read on a strangers motives.

Lucy25 · 22/09/2024 14:31

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 22/09/2024 10:54

This.
Cheer up.

This thread is about everyone’s views whether you disagree or not, not just yours.
When l read the thread, my understanding was, it’s about the parents, grandparents, not children, of course interaction is positive.
Unfortunately so many people have taken offence, if others give a different view to theirs.
I don’t think anyone needs to be told to cheer, up either.

Fizbosshoes · 22/09/2024 12:37

@CypressPeace
Always so loud. When it is perfectly possible to engage well with your kids at a normal volume

This. I don't think anyone would disagree that it is a positive thing to engage with, interact with, talk and play with young children....but why do people 20 metres away need to hear it, when the child is probably within arms reach.
Similarly I have no objection to people speaking on the phone or listening to music on the train....but (imo) it's quite antisocial and unneccessary for half the carriage to hear!

SlothOnARope · 22/09/2024 12:25

mycatsbestfriend · 21/09/2024 16:16

I've had a neighbour bang on my wall to tell me to shut up when I talk to my cats. I'm always telling them from across the room how much I love them and how lovely they are lol

Cat tax picture please. To distract me from the performance grandparenting that's just kicked off next door complete with dire music and trampolining please rain please rain please rain

CypressPeace · 22/09/2024 11:50

Performance parenting. I am so glad there is a phrase for it now. My kids are at university. It was a phenomenon that irritated the hell out of me when they were little. I used to call it ‘running commentary parenting’ then.

It is the middle-class dads around here that do it. Always so loud. When it is perfectly possible to engage well with your kids at a normal volume like we did.

And the announcements are always so worthy. It is usually something like ‘finish off on the monkey bars and then we are going to go and watch Macbeth at the theatre and we can’t wait for that yummy kale salad mummy has prepared at home can we?’. It is never ‘finish off kids as we’re going to go to McDonald’s and then have a few hours at home on our iPads eating haribos’.

KimberleyClark · 22/09/2024 10:54

I know what you mean. Was staying in a hotel recently. In the dining room at breakfast time there was a group of five adults and a baby. We were treated to a loud medley of children’s songs sung by the adults.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 22/09/2024 10:54

theotherfossilsister · 21/09/2024 15:41

I prefer it to parents not interacting with their kids.

This.
Cheer up.

Lucy25 · 22/09/2024 10:49

Wow, comments have been deleted, mine
included replying to someone who was being completely out of order, apparently the reply’s were breaching Mumsnet guidelines, which is laughable because, l’ve seen so many other comments on Mumsnet which are absolutely disgusting, but still stay up.I’ll leave it there, l stand by my comment though, l didn’t say anything wrong, l most certainly wasn’t being rude or offensive.

JusttInCase · 22/09/2024 08:13

Rhubarblin · 21/09/2024 20:05

OK but the point was they were praising every tiny move in loud baby voices and shrieks, not the walking part.
This child was a confident walker, most people wouldn't shriek with delight every time your child takes a few steps if they've been walking for two months.
My own child didn't walk until nearly three, the first time she walked was very exciting, after a few days it becomes the norm.

My daughter is disabled. She learned to crawl properly (on hands and knees, not just army crawling) about a week before her 2nd birthday. 9 months on we still praise her for good crawling or managing to climb up an entire flight of stairs. If she actually learns to walk I promise you the novelty won't wear off within a few days!

Edit: We aren't super loud though (I hope). I'm very conscious of annoying other people, especially if we're inside!

Lucy25 · 22/09/2024 01:41

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We get it, if you don’t agree with a different opinion you get nasty.It might work in your real life, but it doesn’t work here.
The person who is coming across as entitled is you.'you’re odd’ because you’re not English, that doesn’t make sense! I’m not English either, what has that got to do with anything.If you’re rude and aggressive, then you’re rude and aggressive it doesn’t matter what nationality you are.
This thread isn’t about not liking children, it’s about the parents and grandparents, who go completely over the top, overriding, whatever
social setting there in.Point being, do children need to be shouted at or constantly praised in public, it’s ok for people who have experienced this, to also give their view.
You feel differently, no problem, because that’s what this thread is for, to get all different views.There’s just no need though, to be nasty to get your point across.

justaanothermum · 22/09/2024 00:45

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Mnetcurious · 22/09/2024 00:44

Yanbu. People being unnecessarily loud in public is one of my bugbears.

mycatsbestfriend · 22/09/2024 00:43

Seriously. I'm cringing so hard for you I'm wearing my arsehole as a scarf

Had to look this up...

MonsteraMama · 22/09/2024 00:40

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Your posts are some of the most embarrassing, 2003 MySpace edge-lordy, cringe worthy stuff I've seen on this site, so we'll done for that. Seriously. I'm cringing so hard for you I'm wearing my arsehole as a scarf.

Also the word your searching for is bitch. If you're going to (try to) insult people with misogynistic language at least have the stones to do it properly.

justaanothermum · 22/09/2024 00:36

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FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 22/09/2024 00:26

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This is another example of a lack of reading comprehension. Nobody "hates" their own children or "despises" other children. This isn't even merely hyperbolic, it's utterly inaccurate. The complaints are about the adults!

This behaviour doesn't seem to be in the children's interests, it's the multiple adults - usually where adults outnumber children in the group - essentially competing to outdo each other and performing for one another.

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5foot5 · 22/09/2024 00:25

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Wow, you sound a bit, odd. I am not sure I would like you around kids of mine.

FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 22/09/2024 00:20

justaanothermum · 21/09/2024 20:15

@OrangeTeabags no Teabag, the OP is talking about two grandparents who have their grandchildren over and do the most they can to give children lovely happy childhood memories, and because those happy loud times trigger her own "neglected childhood from her mother"- as OP stated, she thinks all people act when they show love and attention. You'll hear loud noises, these children will grow happy. Now get yourself some tea and relax those nerves ladies, I see a lot of you think they were born adults.

I actually missed this post until it was quoted.

The poster has made something up and put it in quotation marks as though it's actually a quotation. I never said, nor implied, that I had a "neglected childhood from [sic] [my] mother".

I said that my mother didn't play with her own children which was completely normal and appropriate for her generation of parents and my generation of children. I had plenty of siblings and friends- children actually do not need their parents to play with them in order not to be neglected. Play with peers and alone is important and play directed by adults is not necessarily better, in fact it's arguably a poor substitute.

Justaanothermum was presumably neglected by her English teacher during the lesson about quotation...

Parents need to love and care for their children, meet their needs for food, shelter, safety, acceptance, warmth, appropriate clothing and other necessities, as well as their higher level needs - giving them space and opportunity to play and learn through playing, not directing their play, and meeting or enabling their needs for education, socialisation, friendship , society, life skills to be met etc. etc.

Children need access to education but their parents don't have to be the ones who actively teach them to read, just provide the opportunity and resources and environment to learn. The same goes for play.

Children also need space and time which isn't structured and narrated by adults in order to develop creativity and self reliance and be comfortable and confident in themselves.

My mother wasn't perfect but she was a good enough, if very busy and often stressed, full time working professional woman with five children. She certainly wasn't a neglectful mother.

Her performance grandparenting was out of character and jarring because it very clearly was performative in her case. It probably was an attempt to prove something to me and others as she probably did absorb the modern idea that parents (lets be honest, mothers) are meant to do lots of imaginative play and perhaps she wanted to over-compensate for not having done that 30+ years before she became a grandparent, but it wasn't a standard requirement in the 60s and 70s especially for the minority of mothers of large families working full time. None of my friends parents played with their children either, as far as I remember. Perhaps they kicked a ball around, did a puzzle occasionally or played a board game, but certainly not imaginative play as far as I'm aware and we wouldn't have wanted parents to play with us - children played together. I found it difficult to witness from her because it didn't suit her and stifled my children's play style as she was very directive and unimaginative.

Either way this isn't a thread about playing with children but about the loud running commentary on their every move done in an odd, loud, childish voice, over enthusiastic exclaiming, whooping and applauding, and generally non stop adult loudness accompanying the presence of perfectly inoffensive young children.

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