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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 20:58

My DS is globally delayed - not significantly but enough to make him often act without thinking through possible consequences and that’s led to some hard times at secondary as you can imagine. But nothing I’ve not managed to help him through.

It all kicked off this week in a Snapchat (?) with lots of kids from his year and the year above. I think he knows most of them but not all. For some reason, he let 2 friends borrow his phone and one of them pulled up a picture of a girl in their year who had posted of her in a bikini on a recently holiday. My son isn’t sure but thinks the photo came from her Facebook which is open to all. Said “friends” posted the Picture on Snapchat with no comment but obviously this bikini picture was seen by many.

the girl‘s mum contacted school to complain and it took me about an hour of listening to understand all I’ve tried to summarise above (I’m an older mum in late 50’s and without sounding like I’m in the Archers I do find the online world of social media confusing). The head was nice and said she fully believes there was no malicious intent, but that my son should be careful in future about who he lets borrow his phone, and that provocative photos shouldn’t be shared without the person’s explicit consent. My son’s friends parents were also present as
they admitted from the start they posted it from my son’s phone, but they argued politely that the fact the girl chooses to have an open profile with lots of photos of her on the beach / going out / etc means they did nothing wrong posting it on Snapchat. I stayed quiet as frankly felt out my depth but apologised to the school and girl’s parents as did my son and assured them it won’t happen again. Have also had conversation with my son about not allowing friends/
peers to use his phone.

the problem is that his friend’s parents refused to apologise, said if they don’t want the girl in a bikini splashed around they should talk to her about her inappropriate content on open Facebook, and it all got heated, ending with the girl’s mum saying she was going to the police to report my son and his friends for explicitly posting illegal pictures of her daughter ☹️

i am terrified as this was done on my son’s phone. What should / can I do next? I feel utterly out of my depth and my son is terrified as didn’t even know it had happened until someone messaged him to ask why he’d done it. Any advice so welcome. Thank you. Not sure what my AIBU is, but don’t know where to post it as I’m not good with online forums either!

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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:27

TheShellBeach · 19/09/2024 23:26

Please can you quote people when you're replying.
Thank you.

I think I have been? Tho maybe missed some as ive had way more responses than I anticipated!

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TheShellBeach · 19/09/2024 23:26

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 21:24

As I’ve said no apps other than Snapchat for reason above but I sound like a broken record!

Please can you quote people when you're replying.
Thank you.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:24

And he only uses his sticks for walking to and from school so not a problem for him to type (thankfully!)

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Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:23

Yes hopefully the girl will lock down her social media to protect herself from this kind of thing. With deep fake apps and ai this stuff is only going to get worse in schools.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:22

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:21

Yes that's the thing. Tell him not to tell his mates the code. A thumbprint is easier than typing in a code, particularly if he has sticks to worry about.

No they don’t know his code. Just me and him 😌But it’s an olllld phone and definitely doesn’t have a thumbprint thing on it!

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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:21

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 19/09/2024 23:17

@Ghilliegums well personally I think it is silly to have no limits on your SM. Especially if you want to share photos of your body. Don't get me wrong, I think those boys were 100% in the wrong here but I think she was also foolish. But she is young and unfortunately they all learned this lesson the hard way.

The Head did say to her mum they needed to have a separate conversation about how to help her help her child if all her content is public but we left after that.

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Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:21

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:19

He has a passcode if that is the same as a lock? Comes on after a minute of no activity.

Yes that's the thing. Tell him not to tell his mates the code. A thumbprint is easier than typing in a code, particularly if he has sticks to worry about.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:19

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:18

OK, well just make it clear that you think what they did was totally wrong and that the girl involved had every right to put whatever she wants on her social media without expecting it to be shared and commented on.

Then sort his phone screen out with a lock. He should have that anyway.

He has a passcode if that is the same as a lock? Comes on after a minute of no activity.

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Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:18

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:16

They seem to be nice boys generally and the only friends he’s had since starting at not the nicest secondary school🥹they wait for him each morning as he walks with sticks and are respectful of his catheter changing etc. generally considered nice boys and the school have looked after my son pretty well after some inevitable (sadly) bullying at the start of school and actually helped my son find these 2 friends through a lunch time Lego club.

OK, well just make it clear that you think what they did was totally wrong and that the girl involved had every right to put whatever she wants on her social media without expecting it to be shared and commented on.

Then sort his phone screen out with a lock. He should have that anyway.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:18

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:14

Why is the girl silly! She can post what she likes on her Facebook. That doesn't mean she wants excited little boys sharing her bikini picture.

They are all in the same year- definitely no age difference in terms of the boys being “little” which the Head said was a key point in terms of open social media consent 🤷‍♀️

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 19/09/2024 23:17

@Ghilliegums well personally I think it is silly to have no limits on your SM. Especially if you want to share photos of your body. Don't get me wrong, I think those boys were 100% in the wrong here but I think she was also foolish. But she is young and unfortunately they all learned this lesson the hard way.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:16

They seem to be nice boys generally and the only friends he’s had since starting at not the nicest secondary school🥹they wait for him each morning as he walks with sticks and are respectful of his catheter changing etc. generally considered nice boys and the school have looked after my son pretty well after some inevitable (sadly) bullying at the start of school and actually helped my son find these 2 friends through a lunch time Lego club.

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Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:14

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 19/09/2024 23:12

@Stripyseason I think many posters are determined to make you feel bad here. Most boys that age have Snapchat, it's how they communicate. I held off for a while at that age and my dS was constantly left out of things, wouldn't hear about meet ups etc. On balance the damage being done to his confidence and social life by not having it outweighed the risk of having it, so we gave in.

His friends were horrible but I'm guessing it was just a prank. It is worst investigating if they are using him and taking advantage of his delays.

I think this is just a storm in a tea cup. Lessons have been learned. That silly girl won't make the same mistake again. I agree other kids should have apologised but they didn't and you did, that's all you can do.

Why is the girl silly! She can post what she likes on her Facebook. That doesn't mean she wants excited little boys sharing her bikini picture.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 19/09/2024 23:12

@Stripyseason I think many posters are determined to make you feel bad here. Most boys that age have Snapchat, it's how they communicate. I held off for a while at that age and my dS was constantly left out of things, wouldn't hear about meet ups etc. On balance the damage being done to his confidence and social life by not having it outweighed the risk of having it, so we gave in.

His friends were horrible but I'm guessing it was just a prank. It is worst investigating if they are using him and taking advantage of his delays.

I think this is just a storm in a tea cup. Lessons have been learned. That silly girl won't make the same mistake again. I agree other kids should have apologised but they didn't and you did, that's all you can do.

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:12

DadJoke · 19/09/2024 23:08

If your DS is sharing an illegal image then their DD is sharing an illegal image. Either they are bluffing or they are stupid. The image doesn’t sound illegal in any case.

Someone took your son’s phone and posted a legal image without his permission. Your son simply isn’t in the frame for this.

Illegal or not, it demonstrates a complete lack of respect towards the person who's image they've shared.

I do agree that the OPs son isn't at fault, even though he was naive with his phone.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:12

DadJoke · 19/09/2024 23:08

If your DS is sharing an illegal image then their DD is sharing an illegal image. Either they are bluffing or they are stupid. The image doesn’t sound illegal in any case.

Someone took your son’s phone and posted a legal image without his permission. Your son simply isn’t in the frame for this.

Thank you, that’s very reassuring as it was the illegal part that was scaring me.

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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:11

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:06

OK. My phone automatically dims the screen and needs a thumbprint or code to access within a minute of me not using it. Perhaps make sure he has that security option. I'm sorry he had to run to change his catheter but I feel more sorry for the girl who had her photo shared. Im sure you can see the need for extra security after this.

Your phone sounds a lot fancier than my son’s! Definitely no James Bond thumbprint on his phone (sadly!)
I felt sorry for the girl too hence why my son and I apologised wholeheartedly. Just wish the other parents had too rather than criticising and bringing up all her public content….it was awful to listen to. His friends were however very sorry to my son as were their parents for them taking advantage of his phone while he was changing, and I believe they wouldn’t be so silly again.

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DadJoke · 19/09/2024 23:08

If your DS is sharing an illegal image then their DD is sharing an illegal image. Either they are bluffing or they are stupid. The image doesn’t sound illegal in any case.

Someone took your son’s phone and posted a legal image without his permission. Your son simply isn’t in the frame for this.

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 23:06

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:01

It wasn’t an excuse, oh my word. He realised his catheter was leaking so had to get to toilet fast and handed his friends his phone. they then “borrowed” it but that’s certainly not an excuse as they immediately admitted my son had no idea! and yes he has a lock but as they’re his friends I don’t think locking it was his top priority over getting catheter sorted as they have never done anything like this before in the 2 years his year group have phones 🤷‍♀️

OK. My phone automatically dims the screen and needs a thumbprint or code to access within a minute of me not using it. Perhaps make sure he has that security option. I'm sorry he had to run to change his catheter but I feel more sorry for the girl who had her photo shared. Im sure you can see the need for extra security after this.

Noseybookworm · 19/09/2024 23:05

Honestly, try not to worry, I highly doubt the police will do anything. Your son's friends have already admitted it was them that posted the bikini picture, your son didn't post it. So all he is guilty of is foolishly letting his friends use his phone. Hopefully he's learned his lesson not to do that again.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:04

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 22:52

I've heard the 'I let my friend borrow my phone' excuse more than once OP. I suggest he uses a simple screen lock.

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But I am sorry you’ve had to deal with the “my friend borrowed my phone” as an excuse on several occasions rather than it being true. I appreciate that must be very hard as a parent.

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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 23:01

Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 22:52

I've heard the 'I let my friend borrow my phone' excuse more than once OP. I suggest he uses a simple screen lock.

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It wasn’t an excuse, oh my word. He realised his catheter was leaking so had to get to toilet fast and handed his friends his phone. they then “borrowed” it but that’s certainly not an excuse as they immediately admitted my son had no idea! and yes he has a lock but as they’re his friends I don’t think locking it was his top priority over getting catheter sorted as they have never done anything like this before in the 2 years his year group have phones 🤷‍♀️

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Ghilliegums · 19/09/2024 22:52

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 22:45

Completely agree it’s up to this girl what she wants to share of herself on the internet. And her parents being ok with it.

But to be clear, my son knows the only thing he did wrong was letting his friends hold his phone while he went to the loo to change his catheter. In no world would I tell him that was “totally wrong”.

I've heard the 'I let my friend borrow my phone' excuse more than once OP. I suggest he uses a simple screen lock.

Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 22:48

Head was clear they followed it up as the girl’s mum had come to her first before the police as she and her daughter wanted the school to enforce that any picture she posts most have her written consent to be shared by others.

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Stripyseason · 19/09/2024 22:46

Combattingthemoaners · 19/09/2024 22:44

It doesn’t sound like it’s an illegal or indecent picture. The police would not be involved in this. The school have followed it up as it’s a form of bullying.

The other parents should have apologised for their son’s actions instead of the old well she posted it first so it’s fair game. They are really not teaching their son any valuable life lesson there.

It really is time for children to be banned from social media. All of that time wasted by teachers having to deal with this kind of crap.

I wish they had apologised too, I wanted the ground to swallow me up when I realised instead of aplogising they were openly critisicing the girl’a mum for allowing / encouraging her daughter to post such proactive pictures on open forums. It was awful.

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