Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

There is a big difference between learning difficulties and learning disabilities. My elder daughter has a learning disability. She has an IQ of 56, which puts her in the moderate learning disability camp. . She needs me to do everything. Her sister has average IQ but has dyslexia. She needs some help with some things but it isn't the same.

The level that this thread is sinking to because of a few posters is quite sad to see. I normally frequent threads of this nature, being disabled myself, they are of interest to me, and there are some posters who are sincere, and offer solid advice, and really are very knowledgeable. Thank you to those people.

Most of it is down to peoples’ lack of critical thinking and an unwillingness to do a bit of research before they open their mouths and make total arses of themselves !! As Mark Twain once said ‘It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt’.

Turned down for care component too- too independent 🙄

OK then. Really can’t be arsed arguing any more.

I’ve only announced my own level of disability in the last few pages because I didn’t think it was relative to the discussion. But I’m buggered if I’m going to sit here and be accused of not being disabled and not listening to the concerns of disabled people when I have worked so hard and for so long to support others, despite a level of disability that would floor most people. Sorry if that sounds self serving but this thread has become an absolute stagnant pond of vitriol because of some posters.

We’ve had a few suggestions over the course of this thread, all very demeaning.

1. Swap cash for vouchers
2. Force disabled people to have disability benefits bank accounts that are monitored to account for absolutely every penny of taxpayer money they spend.
3. Force them to do their own accounts and send it to be scrutinised.
4. Stop the motability scheme (even though this option saves the taxpayer no money at all)
5. Only award it for certain conditions.

Quite unbelievable really that some people think these are acceptable stances!

Yes, I have supported many to apply. In 2022/23 (the most recent statistics), 67,233 people were supported through the various grants the Motability Foundation offer. See here

Well said@Rosscameasdoody .

Yes. There are. I'm not stupid, thanks. If you haven't seen them, fine. That doesn't mean that they have suddenly ceased to exist, because you say so. They are private groups, so can't be seen by people unless they join.

How do you know who is disabled and who isn’t? I am, I didn’t ’announced’ it on the thread because there was no need to.

I do, every time. Nothing is done.

Have you ever tried to apply for one? The process is laughable.

I’m disabled from birth - Spina Bifida. In an era when disabled children could be bunged in an orphanage and left to get on with it. Wheelchair bound, amputee, double stoma and countless other effects, the consequences of which have been - interesting to say the least. Don’t attempt to tell me I don’t understand disability or don’t listen to fellow disabled people - I’ve spent a good proportion of my life understanding their needs and helping them achieve what’s important to them in life.

You’ve posted absolute unmitigated garbage on this thread, some of which you should be thoroughly ashamed of. And you’ve demonstrated another level of entitlement with your criticism of Motability - a charity doing sterling work to keep disabled people mobile within the confines of their benefit entitlement. It’s one thing knowing the PIP criteria, it’s quite another understanding it. And some of your posts demonstrate very clearly that you don’t - especially if you think fraud figures are low because of lack of investigation.

They’re not. Except on mumsnet. HTH

I don’t doubt that there are a minority of disability benefit claims that are fraudulent. Posters who are angry about this what’s the solution? I get the impression many of you would be happy for disabled people to get no benefits other than a basic subsistence amount to keep them fed & little more! Just in case Dave at 62 with the ‘bad back’ might get a few quid of your precious taxes! Genuine question what suggestions do you all have or would you rather just point the finger and froth about all the scroungers? Personally I prefer the most vulnerable in our society to be protected and kept fed & warm! There will always be people who are dishonest , on the take etc, demonising the disabled won’t change that !

I sort-of want to laugh at your ignorance. How can you tell if someone is disabled via their posting on an internet form?! Hint: you cannot.
You do not speak for all disabled people.

'your lot'.
Not the labour party. Some understanding from the Lib Dems but otherwise a minority. Ever it was thus. So the answer is what? Each person to be personally interviewed, medically assessed and monitored for recovery? Perhaps workhouses suit the tax payer better? So for the majority of basic claimants this will cost more. Who is qualified to do this? Angry keyboard warriors?
When I refused to donate to a beggar as a 25 year old my mother said 'why do you judge him?' I said he'll spend it on booze or drugs. She said, 'let that be on his conscious not yours'.
Ditto the people on here who judge the disabled posters. You are 50% likely to develop cancer and 25% likely to be in an accident. Thus you join a club nobody wants to join. Think on.

Yep. A friend who is a double amputee has just secured funding for an expensive top box and hoist to place her wheelchair so that she can get in and out of the car.

I honestly can’t see how this happens. I have complex health condition and currently can’t leave the house alone, my family do everything for me most days of the week.
I see private specialist twice a month and under a regional nhs team who I see monthly. I have pages of evidence to support this. I get standard mobility no care, this is with multiple consultants listing why I can’t do the activities on the assessment.
if that isn’t enough to get even standard living award how are people faking it and getting the maximum award?!

@Rosscameasdoody Thanks for explaining.
It seemed a bit odd that people would be so openly and publicly talking about "screwing over the government". Perhaps the other poster saw a couple of individual posts on one of those support groups and mistakenly thought one or two rogue posters represented everyone else.

Sorry - not with you…….