Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

This quite upsetting;we're 14 months in from applying for PIP for my 17 year DD with a neurological disorder;on her worse days she can't physically move unaided yet not even to go to the toilet;she's been awarded 0 on everything.

We're still waiting for a tribunal date;it's been a demoralising and stressful process.

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Where did you get that info from because previously there has been a lot of mandatory considerations that after quite a long time waiting and court they got passed so it’s not easy for everyone

My mum has genuine mobility issues but is on lower rate PIP. I asked them about the possibility of assessing her for higher rate mobility but they said any further problems will be put down to her age (she’s 72) rather than a disability.

It’s galling if your friend has lied.

Women at work was laughing at her fathers answers to some disability claim he had made, can’t tie shoe laces, walk, stand, be alone etc, that she was copying on the company photocopier !

In reality, he was on holiday all the time, drove, picked up her kids and wasn’t the slightest bit frail.

Look at the pass rate…

In the quarter ending January 2024 there were:

• 210,000 registrations and 210,000 clearances for new claims
• 30,000 changes of circumstance reported and 32,000 cleared
• 21,000 registrations and 21,000 clearances for DLA reassessments
• 130,000 planned award reviews registered and 120,000 cleared
• 71,000 mandatory reconsiderations (MRs) registered and 63,000 cleared

It's hilarious how much mumsnetters 'know' about these awful common fraudsters who claim pip and uc and esa and everything else their 6 figure earning husbands tax goes on, isn't it?
They must have a side job filling in forms and attending assessments like I do pretty much 70% of my working week.

I mean, people barely have to say their name, and they get full points. I mean, everyone fiddles it. It's So Simple...

@HappyChicky23 if that’s the case then you should be reporting her or you are part of the problem people can report to dwp any fraud and maybe more folks should

She will appear in your local press in a few years, when they photograph her

I am on pip and I didn’t lie but if she is lieing and you r not just putting this on here then bloody report her then. I honestly think just come on mumsnet whine for what for feeling good or gloating. Just do the right thing and report fraud and anyone else if they see people dancing etc and you think they have said they have a physical ailment bloody report, I am not sure what moaning on here will do. I know that I can’t walk furtger then a car parked at road outside my flat I need carers etc. now I use my pip towards paying for carers and towards mobility scooter I do think those that have disabilities that don’t actually need to pay for any extras really not sue why they have extra money apart from maybe it’s to cover if they cannot work

I did a job a few years ago where I saw the medical evidence and the statement from the patient.

Over-egging it was incredibly common.

OK, so apparently you can just ring them up and have an assessment where you chat absolute shit to a doctor/assessor with no actual proof whatsoever and you not only get awarded PIP, but you get awarded the enhanced level?

And the person is out walking up hills daily.

Sure, sure. That is DEFINITELY how it all works. You definitely don't need to provide any proof of your medical conditions so the assessor can determine how you're affected. Uh-huh.

4/10. Poor effort. Must try harder.

Never read such absolute horseshit in my life. Well, I have actually - on the numerous posts just like this which are posted to try and whip people up into a frenzy.

Really not funny for those of us personally affected by the public perception of those with a disability.

Have you ever been present at a PIP assessment?

Solid answer.

Because you can’t prove someone is exaggerating their symptoms unless they admit it.

You can exaggerate how much pain you’re in or you can exaggerate how much your mental health affects your life, but you’re not going to admit that you’re lying to the DWP are you? Hence zero fraud. People do admit they’re lying to others though, which is why some people know other people who are claiming under false pretences. Just like OP. And me. And other PPs.

She's making it harder for people who deserve the pip. I'd report her.

Not sure about this. Most claims require medical evidence from some sort of medics. 🤷‍♀️

It is hugely difficult to get PIP. The idea you turn up and say you can't walk and they give it to you is laughable.

Ciao.

But it’s not means tested….you can work a still get pip….enhanced is about 750 every 4 weeks so not really a pitttance ….if you don’t work you are getting your UC on top of this

So why does DWP estimate PIP fraud to be so low that it is recorded as 0%?

If the doctor has not been asked for evidence, she must have sent some in herself, they don't give it out without it

You do know that the criteria is being able to do something reliably and repeatedly, not just as a one off?

She is a chancer. The whole PIP thing is totally absurd and needs to be completely overhauled.

Lol.