Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

A benefit debit card?

A benefit bank transfer?

The whole system needs changing.

I have a business bank account. Everything is accounted for.

Benefit claimants could have a benefit bank account and debit card and account for everything too.

All benefits need to be accounted for. Not curtailed necessarily just accounted for.

I have to account for my business spending and my tax why should benefit claimants not have to account for themselves and their spending.

What the fuck are you on about so how do people buy food or pay their bills with bloody beans

Once the government do that for every penny of tax they take individually maybe and not just a well £300 went to “benefits” exactly what.

Did you not send evidence?

Really sorry to hear this.

It is reprehensible.

Yep, lets make people who are already is dire circumstances feel even shitter about themselves.

I run a business. I have to justify all my spending and account for everything. I don’t see why benefit claimants can’t follow this model of accountability.

Sorry I don't this beleive
She wouldn't get PIP at the highest rates with no evidence
Anybody can put in a claim but you need evidence to back it up.

My ex’s mum openly admits that she lies to pip (brags about it) and she gets high rate of both components. She claims her anxiety is so severe that she cannot leave her home and when she ran out of milk she had a breakdown - she literally laughed when retelling this made up facade. Her anxiety is apparently so bad that she needs a blue badge and high rate mobility and care but she travels to foreign countries constantly, she is at raves every single weekend. She has people in and out of her home and when she got into a Facebook argument, she drove 5 hours to their home to continue the argument - but apparently this woman’s anxiety is so bad she cannot leave her home.

I’m physically disabled with agonising pain daily, the only time I leave my home is for the school run - and even half of the time I have family members do that for me. I cry everyday as I don’t know what to do with myself as I cannot function due to the pain - even morphine doesn’t touch it. My entire life is messed up, I cannot even get out of bed properly let alone take my son to the park due to the pain, yet I cannot even get the top care. When I did have a carer, my council tried to make me pay £80 for only 3 hours A WEEK, which I couldn’t afford as a disabled single parent - so I have no one to help me clean my home, make my dinners, help me get to the pharmacy or hospital appointments, day to day help. Yet this is woman who admits she lies for top benefits, she gets someone to come clean her home top to bottom weekly (free of charge), a free taxi to and from each medical appointment, someone to come check in on her weekly and make sure she’s ‘ok’. I get no help at all, my entire life I have lived back and forward at hospitals. When I tried to end my life because of the pain a few years ago, I got discharged with no thought or care or routine appointments to make sure I was ok.

Genuine claimants and people in need don’t get the support they deserve, and for benefits they often have to go to trubunal and fight. We have to struggle alone. The liars among us get everything that we should have - it’s disgusting

I'm out !
I should not have posted on this as I should have remembered how this all goes.
Know your place disabled member of society. Know your place .😡

Why is your 'family member' telling you the ins and outs of her PIP claim/PIP assessment? And why on earth is she telling you she bullshitted/ exaggerated/ lied to make sure she got an enhanced award?

I have never known this in real life; people bragging about their disability awards to all and sundry, and blathering about how much they have bullshitted. Why would anyone do this? Knowing they are very likely dropping themselves in it, and throwing themselves under the bus, as someone could report them?

Only on Mumsnet does this happen. Very strange. 😕

As a pp said, it is VERY hard to get PIP, and will be almost impossible under false pretences. Why let this get in the way of a good chance to benefit bash though eh @Orangecrocs ?!!

I think if you truly feel strongly about thus individual case then tell the relevant people. Talking on here won't do anything, she clearly thinks what she's done is fair enough.

Well that’s what the places that help people fill in their pip forms say to do.

Why? This is reasonable to me. I believe labour have shown their intentions clearly. Radical reform will happen. Cash is no longer needed in this society.

Correction, yes the clearance rate.

Apologies Dalton.

I am clinging to the hope that you are just quoting the shite that is usually spouted around PIP. And not that you actually believe in what you have written .

Exactly. I've said before that some people will lie about their disabilities - as in they won't tell people the extent of it or what they really have. I mean no one's exactly going to say they shit themselves

@DejaTu is wrong. That is not the award or "pass" rate, but the clearance rate, which relates to the DWP's processing of claims. I have posted the award rates on my previous post.

Bank transfer? Is your Mum your employee? I am not necessarily talking about vouchers just not a system that allows cash to be taken and no accountability for how it is spent.

No they rarely do….the onus is on you to provide this….so moving forward make sure you have copies of all clinic letters from every speciality involved ( eg OT , dieticians , Diabetes team) as well as the principal speciality team , in this case cardiology…..request copies of your partners gp records and provide a repeat prescriotpion …good luck

If your relative is telling you the truth - it’s fraud in black and white.

Some might be OK with it, but I and many others would not.

It all comes down to values I suppose.

Don't you just love them? The ignorance around PIP is huge.
It's almost as if some disabilities are invisible.and should be disclosed to any old random who has an opinion.
For the uneducated out there....disabled does not always have to be physical.
And while I am at it, the disabled do not get a free car. Blue badges are not just for physical disabilities.
Nobody but the claimant themselves knows how their disability affects them.
You cannot diagnose someone just by knowing them .
Jeez,when will this kind of thread ever stop !

I claim pip. I had to write down all my diagnoses. Lengthy forms, reports from my physiotherapist, occupational therapist,neurologist, gp and I STILL needed an assessment before I was awarded.

You're making this crap up and I'm sick to death of these benefits bashing threads.

And child benefit also? Thank goodness you have no bearing on how benefits are paid.