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Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

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Orangecrocs · 19/09/2024 15:42

My family member has just been awarded enhanced pip in both living and mobility components.
Shes told me that she’s twisted the truth during the assessment and told the assessor that she has lots of pain and can’t really walk at all, but she walks all the time as I see her out and about - we live in a hilly area. I know people who are in a wheelchair and struggle to get enhanced rate - so I really don’t understand how she’s managed this.
I know people will say mind your own business but she’s told me she’s actually lied to them.

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20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:56

orangeleopard · 19/09/2024 17:50

So you’re saying that pip claimants would get pulled if god forbid they treated themselves to a few winter clothing items from an online shop. Or if a disabled person like me, who cannot leave my home often, god forbid I use some of my benefit money on paying for my Netflix so I have something to take my mind off of the pain. Disabled people are allowed to have ‘nice things’ - we shouldn’t have to live in poverty and as most of us have a short life expectancy and our disabilities will never improve (likely worsen), we shouldn’t spend our entire lives getting pulled up on what we’re spending our money on and being terrified if we spend our money on something we’d be deemed as we ‘shouldn’t’. Also, disabled people often get takeaways as they’re unable to cook for themselves - would this be seen as a ‘luxury’ and not allowed rather than a necessary purchase.

disabled people are people and should be treated like people, our lives are pretty awful - let us just live them

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I just feel everything should be accountable and UK benefits should be paid in a way that can stop them from being sent abroad or taken as cash and stashed under the bed.

Tagyoureit · 19/09/2024 17:56

Workhardcryharder · 19/09/2024 17:52

Actually it’s the billions of pounds of tax the rich and big corporations manage to get out of paying. Not a few hundred quid a month for a select few

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Agree, but this doesn't help though does it?

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:55

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:50

I believe they are already introducing access to all bank accounts now.

I am all for benefits I just believe more accountability of how the money is spent is needed.

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That was a proposal. It ran in to trouble and is not happening, at least not yet. DWP can access bank accounts where fraud is suspected, but not willy nilly. I will try to find a link.

Ah, just remembered. Those powers were in the Tories proposed Data Protection and Digital Information Bill. The bill was never passed due to the GE.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 19/09/2024 17:55

CrossUniStudent · 19/09/2024 17:53

I don't believe anyone is getting pip without some type of medical evidence or equivalent. Even illnesses 'that can't be proved' (I assume you mean things like ME or Fibromyalgia) get diagnosed or are evidenced by medical professionals.

100% this. Wouldn't happen.

Brieonlybrie · 19/09/2024 17:54

Orangecrocs · 19/09/2024 16:15

She hasn’t been asked for any clinical evidence from her doctor.

You are obviously making this up. Pip relies on evidence. they never take your word. go and find s different hobby.

OhmygodDont · 19/09/2024 17:54

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:53

See I would sell one but then I would have extra money in the bank and all the "taxpayers" wouldn't be happy. Oh what a pickle.

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Bet it’s some fancy new car too isn’t it. 😩🧐

HungryLittleCrocodile · 19/09/2024 17:54

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:44

Of course. Silly me. I should really call the DWP and ask how I repay any surplus money I have left each month 😂

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At least you can feed your goat with your surplus. Grin

x2boys · 19/09/2024 17:54

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:43

They receive Government money which should be able to be accounted for to stop abuse of the system.

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The whole point of DLA /PIP is that its non means tested and can ve used for anything that benefits the recipient, be that paying for a bill ,getting some food shopping ,or paying for a spa weekend .

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:53

OhmygodDont · 19/09/2024 17:48

Now that’s just greedy.

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See I would sell one but then I would have extra money in the bank and all the "taxpayers" wouldn't be happy. Oh what a pickle.

CrossUniStudent · 19/09/2024 17:53

I don't believe anyone is getting pip without some type of medical evidence or equivalent. Even illnesses 'that can't be proved' (I assume you mean things like ME or Fibromyalgia) get diagnosed or are evidenced by medical professionals.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 19/09/2024 17:52

x2boys · 19/09/2024 17:29

Sorry I don't this beleive
She wouldn't get PIP at the highest rates with no evidence
Anybody can put in a claim but you need evidence to back it up.

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Yep this. ^

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 17:52

What does jump out at me is that the majority genuinely qualify for state support, I’m sure. But there is a evidently a pervasive feeling of guilt for claiming.

The deserving have no need to feel this way, but those who would seek to defraud the public purse deserve our opprobrium.

Workhardcryharder · 19/09/2024 17:52

Tagyoureit · 19/09/2024 16:00

Shameful of her and this is why the country is on its knees, hand outs for those who don't need them.

Actually it’s the billions of pounds of tax the rich and big corporations manage to get out of paying. Not a few hundred quid a month for a select few

Daltonbear1 · 19/09/2024 17:51

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:48

Shit. I spend some of my Carer's Allowance on wine. Will I go to jail?

For all those getting their hopes up that pesky disabled people will be paid in vouchers, I reckon you will be disappointed. One country, can't remember where off the top of my head, tried something similar and it was a failure.

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I believe they give food stamps in America so you know people can tell that they r on benefits can you imagine that at the check out well I get mine delivered as my carers put it away I think some on here want that they want us all to be please sir can I have some more no you fucking can’t

Trimalata · 19/09/2024 17:51

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:50

I believe they are already introducing access to all bank accounts now.

I am all for benefits I just believe more accountability of how the money is spent is needed.

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If it turns out that the disabled are spending all their money wisely, and its not enough to live off, we should give them more then, right?

Right?

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:50

One claiming he could hardly walk and was going ski-ing every weekend in winter

Report him to the Daily Mail. They love that sort of shit.

orangeleopard · 19/09/2024 17:50

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:34

A benefit debit card?

A benefit bank transfer?

The whole system needs changing.

I have a business bank account. Everything is accounted for.

Benefit claimants could have a benefit bank account and debit card and account for everything too.

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So you’re saying that pip claimants would get pulled if god forbid they treated themselves to a few winter clothing items from an online shop. Or if a disabled person like me, who cannot leave my home often, god forbid I use some of my benefit money on paying for my Netflix so I have something to take my mind off of the pain. Disabled people are allowed to have ‘nice things’ - we shouldn’t have to live in poverty and as most of us have a short life expectancy and our disabilities will never improve (likely worsen), we shouldn’t spend our entire lives getting pulled up on what we’re spending our money on and being terrified if we spend our money on something we’d be deemed as we ‘shouldn’t’. Also, disabled people often get takeaways as they’re unable to cook for themselves - would this be seen as a ‘luxury’ and not allowed rather than a necessary purchase.

disabled people are people and should be treated like people, our lives are pretty awful - let us just live them

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:50

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:47

You could save it all up in a bank account and when you reach 16k you could come off benefits.

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And swiftly have to go back on benefits again after 6 months when it's all gone? Go through all the health assessments and applications? No I'm alright thanks. I'll continue as I am legitimately claiming all that I am entitled to.

20yearrenovation · 19/09/2024 17:50

Daltonbear1 · 19/09/2024 17:47

You do know we don’t get giros any more I pay my stuff by bank transfer or direct debit it goes in my bank account like you say it’s auditable they can see my bank statement if they wish

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I believe they are already introducing access to all bank accounts now.

I am all for benefits I just believe more accountability of how the money is spent is needed.

OhmygodDont · 19/09/2024 17:50

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:48

Shit. I spend some of my Carer's Allowance on wine. Will I go to jail?

For all those getting their hopes up that pesky disabled people will be paid in vouchers, I reckon you will be disappointed. One country, can't remember where off the top of my head, tried something similar and it was a failure.

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Well you cannot possibly be a career while under the influence tut tut. 🍷

LadyKenya · 19/09/2024 17:49

DejaTu · 19/09/2024 16:34

Utterly reprehensible - it’s fraud.

There are deserving cases missing support because of people like this.

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No it really is not. It is more down to the ineptitude of the assessors actually.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:49

OhmygodDont · 19/09/2024 17:48

Now that’s just greedy.

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No wonder the UK is on its knees, etc.

Daltonbear1 · 19/09/2024 17:48

Zanatdy · 19/09/2024 17:45

People will say you’re BU but I know loads of people who have lied to get PIP. One claiming he could hardly walk and was going ski-ing every weekend in winter. And yes I know this as he told me. No I wouldn’t report him, but he should he careful who he tells as if I was scamming benefits I wouldn’t be telling a soul

Why wouldn’t you report him as you r part of the problem surely

OhmygodDont · 19/09/2024 17:48

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:47

I actually have 2...😯

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Now that’s just greedy.

PandoraSox · 19/09/2024 17:48

nextdoornightmares · 19/09/2024 17:44

Of course. Silly me. I should really call the DWP and ask how I repay any surplus money I have left each month 😂

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Shit. I spend some of my Carer's Allowance on wine. Will I go to jail?

For all those getting their hopes up that pesky disabled people will be paid in vouchers, I reckon you will be disappointed. One country, can't remember where off the top of my head, tried something similar and it was a failure.