Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

Report her. Making us all poorer.

Here's a thread outlining exactly why cash is often preferable for older/disabled people. I doubt you'll bother reading it.

And god forbid someone might want to give their grandchild a tenner in a card for their birthday or anything.

This thread is absolutely vile.

As per usual when it comes to discussing disability benefits, or benefits in general.

I have. It’s bollocks. Unless you live with someone 24 hours a day, are intimately acquainted with their condition, have access to medical reports and are privy to the private details of their benefit claim, you can’t possibly know whether they qualify for benefit or not.

I believe all business should be cashless too.

My business is cashless and I do not accept cash payments and most of the people offering me cash payments are wait for it…….. on benefits! 😂 They actually tell me they are on benefits before you ask how I know.

That is just my experience.

This might be of interest to you - about how easy it is to fake neurological conditions -

Challenges to the Diagnosis of Functional Neurological Disorder: Feigning, Intentionality, and Responsibility

It is relatively new as well

Challenges to the Diagnosis of Functional Neurological Disorder: Feigning, Intentionality, and Responsibility - PMC (nih.gov)

There is always medical evidence to support a PIP claim. Even if the claimant doesn’t provide it themselves, and even in the absence of a face to face assessment. DWP case managers who make award decisions are not medically qualified. There will always be an assessors report if the claimant does not provide evidence of their own. As a benefit adviser I would never have advised any claimant to rely on an assessment report - assessors are not doctors. They can variously be nurses, physios, paramedics, and not necessarily experienced in any one disability or condition. Independent medical evidence is always preferable.

It is about mobility and pain if that’s what your issue is. There are communication and other issues that relate to autism.

Most people on benefits aren't going to the bank and withdrawing huge sums of cash. Perhaps some are. But nothing like the inflated figures you seem to have in your head. Also not sure how it would reduce benefit fraud really. Certainly not like the type that is being suggested in this thread.

Also, cash is still widely used. In fact, I have to withdraw £150 tomorrow to pay for the hall and bouncy castle for my kids birthday party. Is that ok with you? Just thought I'd check seeing as I apparently have to justify all my spending to the taxpayers. Or is my child not allowed a birthday party either?

Lool

maybe you should of read all the quoted posts 🤣🤣

Do you need cash for this? NO!

All these things can be paid for via bank transfer or debit card!!!!

Benefits bank account and a benefits debit card. All money can be accounted for and audited. No cash payments needed.

This. The amount of relation to cannabis and mental health is substantial. And it’s a awful situation where they’ve got mental health issues due to the drugs, get disability benefits for their mental health and use those benefits for those drugs - hence never being able to get out of the mental health state. I know of multiple people who claim they cannot work due to mental health, and I don’t doubt it’s mental health but they also smoke themselves silly and sleep all day and because they get benefits for the mental health aspect - they’re never going to want to actually get out of that cycle or ‘better’ themselves.

So people would just use that account for bills and food …..it would soon be spent every month…I mean that wouldn’t bother me in the slightest…..but as I said earlier on….who is going to audit these accounts ……will cost millions to set up and audit 3.4m accounts

Absolute nonsense. Yet another benefits bashing thread by a first time poster. It’s really demoralising to see some of the replies though.

Do you actually know what the cost of disability is ?

How do you account for the extra household costs because you are disabled, confined to a wheelchair and live alone ?

Extra electricity costs because you need to charge essential equipment.
Extra gas and electricity costs because you’re never out of the shower or bath because of incontinence - not to mention the extra laundry.
Extra costs because you don’t qualify for LA help with care and have to buy it in.
Someone to put your bins out.
Someone to actually put your bin bags in the bin.
Someone to clean a couple of times a week - even if it’s only to do the things you can’t manage yourself.
Someone to mow the lawn/weed.
Someone to help you get out of the house, and if you’re lucky enough to have a car, into it and out of it at the other end.
Someone to help you bathe and change after accidents and cope with stomas - sometimes double stomas if you’re doubly incontinent.

Want me to go on ? You, and quite a few others here have no fucking idea what it’s like to live as a disabled person. And until you do, you really aren’t qualified to comment are you ?

I know of someone who was refused PIP who is very unwell and not mobile at all. I also know of a woman who has claimed it for years, she’s my next door neighbour. She was a social worker so knows how to play the system.

Yes, how peculiar that a random poster on mumsnet would have more insight into the realities of PIP claimants than a professionally commissioned report!

Yes but if you don’t provide any evidence, you’ll be hard pushed to get PIP awarded even if you genuinely have significant care, health and support needs.

This government should definitely tackle this; they would get a lot of support from 'ordinary people' if they were brave enough to take it on.
They would get loads of grief off their Guardian reading voters (of which I'm one haha) though. The type who naively believe that only rich / privileged people are piss takers and all working class / disabled people are worthy, salt of the earth types.

Benefits bank account for benefits only. It is more about stopping benefits having a cash value so it is known to the claimant that it can be audited and any spending held accountable at any time.

Stop cash being taken out. As I said no need for cash in todays society.

Calling me an idiot says a lot more about you than me.

What are you on about? Claimants don't have to do urine tests for neurological or any other condition.

As for neurological conditions being easy to fake? Yeah my DH rearranged his DNA to fake his hereditary neurological condition. And his brain scan.

PIP very rarely contact any medic….be it gp or consultant….the onus is on the claimant to provide their own evidence

Not why. Why is rip off crony capitalism.

The country is on its knees not bacause a few people claiming PIP, but because of huge corporations avoiding paying taxes.

Benefit claimants could have a benefit bank account and debit card and account for everything too

What happens if they're working, do they have their wages paid into their special benefits bank account? Or are they allowed to have a normal bank account for their wages?
If this would be to make sure that benefits aren't being used on things that 'waste' the taxpayers money, are there approved suppliers that must be used? Is there a comprehensive list of what benefits claimants can purchase, and what is considered frivolous/unnecessary?
How is their spending monitored? Who's monitoring it?

How much is all of this costing to run?

Bloody idiot.