Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

You are, of course, aware that very many claimants are tax payers themselves. And that very many PIP claimants work. That’s the intention of the benefit. To provide a level playing field so that disability doesn’t disadvantage a person either socially or financially. You clearly have no fucking idea of what it’s like to live as a disabled person. You should hang your head in shame for the ignorance of that comment. What an awful thread - one of the worst I’ve seen for quite a while. And that’s quite a feat.

You seem oddly fixated on this idea of people on benefits withdrawing vast sums of cash. It's really not as big a thing as you think nor will your fantasy bank account/card ideas prevent any sort of benefit fraud. But if people want to withdraw all their benefit payment in cash, they can and that's ok.

Also, benefits ARE cashless. As far as I'm aware nobody has the option to be paid in cash anymore. It's all done via bank transfer. But you keep ignoring the multiple people who have pointed this out to you.

And once that money hits the claimants bank account, it's nobody's business what it's used for.

So much bullshit spouted on here. If you think it's so easy to claim and get awarded enhanced care and mobilty on PIP, knock yourselves out.
One poster confidently asserts that the DH of a claimant is a high earner but he claims carer's allowance. CA is about £80 a week (for providing 35hrs of care) and you have to earn less than £151 per week.

I manage the dc benefits, 4 of them get dla/pip. 2 have autism, 1 has autism and adhd the other has GDD. I also have another child with autism who doesn't get pip.

If you talked to my dh he may well tell you that the dc get dla/pip but he has no idea why because their needs are quite mild. This is because he has autism as well and he thinks their problems are normal. The reality is very different.

Spina Bifida is a neural tube congenital disability, along with many other neurological conditions which are as a result of birth defects and can cause multiple disability/devastating effects. There are numerous tests and scans which can support symptoms and effects. If I was going to fake a disability to claim benefits, it definitely wouldn’t be a neurological disorder.

You make no sense.

Businesses are going cashless all the time.

Benefits will too.

Guess what? My DC gets a student loan, do you know how many times he has got cash out in the last 2 years? None!!!!!😂

I run a business and I have never withdrawn cash from that bank account!!!!!

Cash is on the way out and this will be introduced into the benefit system sooner or later.

MH will worsen under this govt with the wfa cuts etc

Exactly. Because there’s always some twat who doesn’t know the first thing about you, but will try to argue as to why you don’t qualify.

Bit disappointing to hear that - thought that benefits were paid in gold bars and diamonds couriered directly to the recipient's front room

And this is why I don't tell anyone I get pip high rate for both.

I worked as a disability benefits adviser for years. I watched as successive Tory governments regarded vulnerable disabled people as the low hanging fruit and made these benefits harder and harder for genuinely disabled people to claim. I supported people who were on their knees with mental health problems and discouraged from going to tribunal to get what they were entitled to because it was simply made too stressful for them to cope with. Excuse me if I don’t appreciate humour after attending the funerals of those who found it all so overwhelming they took their own lives, rather than struggle on the bones of their arse because of attitudes like some of those on this thread.

I know people whose health conditions are genuinely disabling who have been denied PIP because they haven't been able to tick the right boxes on the forms to qualify.

I also know one person who falsely claims they need a full time carer, are incontinent and can't walk, among other things. They borrowed a wheelchair and had their daughter wheel them to the appointment. They brag about how much money they get. If this person wasn't a relative I'd report them; as it is I don't want the drama/hassle.

I wish there was a system that would ensure every person who actually needed help got it and the scammers didn't, but I can't think how it could be done.

I’ve told you this is extremely time, resource and human intensive but you’re not listening. I see how it works for people receiving Direct Payments for social care services. Given you seem to think we should be cashless, this system would need to be in place for all benefits including the student loan, state pension and child benefit. You have no idea of the scale and cost.

Awkward 😂

A big difference. Cash is not needed anymore.

Benefit fraud, tax evasion, money laundering. human trafficking, drug money all of these things are easier when cash is the currency.

If cash was removed all these things would lessen.

The UK should become a cashless system and benefits in cash are not necessary. We are moving towards a cashless society so I believe in the future this will be something that is seriously considered.

The thread is about alleged fraud.

Good for you but many aren't. It's also entirely up to people which method they wish to use to make payments if there are options for both electronic and cash.

Also how would this hypothetical "benefits bank account" actually work? How would bills be paid? Would direct debits and standing orders be allowed? What if the total outgoings were more than the benefit income and the rest had to be paid using wages? Would someone have to juggle 2 bank accounts with direct debits coming out of both just to appease people who feel they have some sort of right to know how other people are spending their own money?

Thank you.

Ah yes. Entitlement. Lots of posts about entitlement to the benefit. Not so many about the level of actual disability that goes with it.

As so the joking with that poster went right over your head. Good to know.

What a trite and ridiculous post.

Disability benefit scamming is a real thing. I work in this field. I have had people claim they can't walk and then post social media pics of them skiing ! Sorry it's not the narrative you want to hear !

The even sadder part is that there are many hundreds of thousands who DONT claim disability benefits when they are entitled due to misinformation about them being means tested.

Yes OP it is your duty along with every other tax payer to report fraud. It IS literally your business and mine and everyone elses.

What’s the difference whether it’s paid in cash or not ? It’s still a need. And if you’re talking about different levels of payment which are audited, that already happens. There are different levels of PIP paid for different levels of need. Anything else is difficult and expensive to administer. You’re talking shite.

Doris alone isn't making you poorer.

Claimants should take the taxpayers hard earned, be grateful, keep their heads down, and get on with it.

The sense of entitlement on these threads is mind blowing.

Yep, I hope it gets taken down.

OP just wants people to get in a froth about her "relative", and this thread is little more than a dog whistle for all the benefit bashers to come out. It happens every time, and it is sickening.