Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

You’re correct. Disability benefit eligibility is enshrined in law and to align with the Equality Act.

Being unable to undertake any journey because it would case overwhelming psychological distress is 10 points. Not 12. Therefore, it is only standard rate mobility. Not enhanced. So, unless claimants also score on the moving around activity, they are not eligible for the motability scheme.

well I’m waiting to see what Labour propose …..same as everybody else…..scary times

@Kitkat1523

We’ll see then won’t we..not long to wait

Of you are talking about the changes you expect to hear about in October there would be years of legal challenges following on from an announcement that only people with X/Y/Z could apply. It's stupid in its most basic form as some people with X don't qualify, some pole do etc, but the bigger picture is law, and the government can't just say 'oh we're are doing this now' and it would happen. I think your change is what you wish would happen, not realistically, it was sent going to happen

How would that work then, given that it currently goes off how the disability impacts you not the actual diagnosis?

Just have to wait and see won’t we….im as worried as the next person…..my current award doesn’t end til 27 so hoping I will get to then without any changes to me personally

I wonder how many people save the child benefit they receive for their children. I wonder how many students use their student grants and loans for buying pints. I wonder how many pensioners use their state pension to buy their grandchildren a Christmas present.

If we are going to pick on disabled people, I think we should start looking at other groups too.

(Obviously I don’t think that at all but it’s hypocritical to only make accusations about disabled people.)

We’ll see then won’t we..not long to wait

Have you reported her? It’s easy to do if there’s loads of social media evidence.

Genuine question regarding your panic and anxiety. How does PIP help you with that?

Yes I am commenting, more about the people who are calling these people that they know, undeserving of their award, because they happen to skydive etc. The fact that your life is very restricted by your disability, has no bearing on other people, outside of your unit. These people getting PIP, will not affect your outcome, or award.

And these suggestions aren’t likely anyway as PIP doesn’t look at the specific disability, but the effect it has on the activities assessed. To specify only certain disabilities as qualifying for PIP would need a complete overhaul of the system and a major change to the assessment criteria, and at the moment the cost of that would rule it out. It would also require a significant change in legislation - the eligibility conditions for disability benefits are enshrined in law and have to comply with the Equality Act 2010.

That’s not the way PIP works. It doesn’t look at specific disability, but the effects of it, and no condition affects any two people in exactly the same way or to the same degree. So a list of diagnoses, excluding all other disabled people from applying wouldn’t be lawful and would definitely invite a legal challenge for discrimination. It would also necessitate all of the assessment criteria to change because they would no longer be relevant. Expensive and unlikely. More likely is some form of tightening of eligibility criteria to make it harder to claim, or to close out those with short term or low level disability. I can definitely see conditions such as anxiety and depression being ruled out unless claimants are currently under the care of a mental health team.

But you are, though. You're here making comments about them. And yes, she is loose of tongue. She positively gloats about her PIP and her new car every few years. She also works full time in a very physically demanding job, and laughs that her PIP is her holiday money.

I also work full time as a disabled person, from my bed, and haven't been on a family holiday since I was 15, and that was to Cornwall. It is a bit sickening when you witness people "showing off" about how they've managed to play the system, when actual disabled people are struggling for support.

No thank you, I am not concerned with over investing myself with what complete strangers are doing. Maybe others should try doing the same. I was just commenting on the fact that all these people doing these things, seem to be rather loose of tongue as well. Fascinating!

They ask for access to medical records but very rarely check them! My DD has PIP and i have had it confirmed by both her GP and consultant that they have never asked for any information from them nor asked for her medical records!

That was me! I exist, and I'm still getting PIP. I've had three reassessments and extentions to my PIP (until 2030 at the moment) and no medical evidence has been submitted. But apparently I must be wrong 😂

Would you like to PM me &for the public social media accounts of the person I'm referring to? Then you can see for yourself that they do indeed do extreme sports, while claiming to need 24 hour care and a wheelchair.

It’s just another way to try and dehumanise people. Disabled people can’t live as normal a life as possible, they have to have very little quality of life to qualify for PIP as well as have their spending monitored and deemed appropriate 🤣🤣 I cannot believe I’m reading this shit. These are people who already have hard lives, leave them the f**k alone and enjoy your fully able body!

The irony is, it’s called Personal Independence Payment. It’s supposed to make life easier and more independent, yet when it’s spent on a car, people moan because they don’t think it’s fair they can’t have one 🤣 and now they want people to lose full control over their money. Jesus Christ.

I think I was quite restrained tbh! The amount of ignorant opinions on this thread is staggering,

This thread makes me so sad to read. I have had a disability for a number of years now and have been encouraged to claim pip on many occasions, I have always held off because I couldn’t cope with the stress of it all reading lots of stories of people being in a similar situation to me. I finally relented this year and was surprised to be awarded it. Nobody else was though, as I am a glass half full kind of person I try and see the bright side of everything and play my symptoms down (apart from when I’m bed bound). I now realise that I have just been coping for years.

I use my pip for things to help with my daily life. Having a disability does cost more even if people don’t realise this. And it allows me to have these things all on my own and not be reliant on other people.

My DH is a high rate tax payer if that makes everyone feel better about me claiming this money?

She would never do that. Because it’s illegal and wrong. She has a line somewhere 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

Who has time to submit accounts of every penny spent on day to day life?

Surely if someone had learning difficulties they would have an appointee.

No, people with learning difficulties won't have an appointee why would they? Do you know what Learning difficulties are? Clearly not.