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To be deflated by the total indifference to harm being normalised on maternity wards

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RedToothBrush · 19/09/2024 11:49

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgvl8l5q0xo

This is MN.

And there seems to be a total indifference and acceptance to maternity care being completely substandard in this country?

Why aren't we completely enraged by this on MN?

Why have we become so passive and why have we rolled over with a seeming attitude that we should almost just deal with it and its not worth complaining anymore?

65% of maternity services in england were judged to be failing. 65%

Why are we not putting pressure for this to be a much higher priority.

The cost to the public sector from compensation related to maternity services is astronomical. It makes up 60% of all negligence claims. This is billions of pounds just on compensation.

This doesn't include the billions spend on care as a result of those harms to women and children.

This is something like £8.2 billion in the year 2021/22. ONE YEAR.

We keep talking about cuts and budget blackholes, but this makes no sense. A lack of investiment in adequate services is costing us billions per year. Savings that COULD be made with better care.

Why isn't this a priority, and why isn't there more women on MN standing up and saying this absoleutely isn't ok? There's plenty of threads about immigration or wars or private schools etc all the time. But maternity services? Tumbleweed.

MNHQ has run a campaign on post-natal care in the past and the situation seems to be getting worse not better. Its dreadful.

So yeah.

Here's a thread to shout about how bad it is. Cos I'm really pissed off. No one seems to be listening.

Close up image of a newborn baby holding a mother's hand

Harm at risk of being normalised in maternity care

Many of the maternity failings at scandal-hit hospitals are being seen elsewhere, England’s NHS regulator says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgvl8l5q0xo

OP posts:
SweetSakura · 19/09/2024 12:04

I'm beyond enraged but I have awful birth trauma and can't cope with engaging with it. And that's 10 years on. That's the issue, right when we go through it we are traumatised and grappling with parenthood and all that goes with it. And I was on heavy drugs that numbed my symptoms for years afterwards. And now I just can't face going back there and wouldn't know if my experience was relevant any more.

But yes, it's horrifying

Jjiillkkf · 19/09/2024 12:01

All the other issues you raised OP are interrelated, they are not problems existing in isolation to one another. Maternity care deemed inadequate is still better than it has been for virtually all women and babies through history. It's failing along with everything else. And yes, I can't understand why there is passive acceptance. Probably because people don't understand the issues and are pacified by political responses.

VesperLind · 19/09/2024 12:00

I have a pal who is a medical negligence lawyer. Having had a terrible experience of NHS maternity care herself, she now practices exclusively in maternity and birth injuries to mothers and babies. She tells every pregnant woman she knows to go for elective caesarean as she believes that is the safest way to have a baby in this country. Note, she doesn’t say it’s safe, it’s just safer than the alternative.

QueenCamilla · 19/09/2024 11:58

Because those in power are very much alright with their private doctors and/or postcode lottery NHS.

Planits · 19/09/2024 11:57

The problem has almost become too big to tackle, so people just bury their heads in the sand.

HedgePigWig · 19/09/2024 11:56

Totally agree.

I said after the birth of my last child that I felt relieved that we were "just" neglected and not outright harmed by their appalling "care".

Farmwifefarmlife · 19/09/2024 11:56

I’m due my baby next month at Telford and I’m petrified to be honest I really worry about the care or lack of and reading a lot about the failings they have had is quite worrying.

TheSnootiestFox · 19/09/2024 11:54

Because it's the NHS, we're all expected to be grateful and never question anything ever even though if I'd have listened to the Dr in the maternity hospital and gone home, my eldest son would have died 🙄

Chocolateorange22 · 19/09/2024 11:51

Same as all medical care for women and medical research. We are always pushed to the bottom. Definitely not acceptable.

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