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Friend constantly asking for childcare

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Megssy · 19/09/2024 00:07

Just need a bit of a rant.

I have a very close friend and I love her dearly, but... she constantly asks for childcare favours. On the occasion I don't mind, but this is super frequent. Because basically she doesn't want to pay childcare . She doesn't just ask me... she asks the whole friendship group.

She's just asked me now if I would walk her son to school one day every week. She knows when I leave for school in the morning and I am currently on maternity leave so have no other commitments.

Aibu to say no? I have just said my 3 year old is being awkward so don't want to commit

OP posts:
AgainandagainandagainSS · 19/09/2024 11:33

Say no. Dress it up as in a few months time you will be back at work and leaving her in the lurch’ so better that she organized something now.

can’t bear people who think it’s ok to have kids because they want them and then freeload for childcare.

OutVileJelly1 · 19/09/2024 11:31

You are well within your rights to say no, OP - however walking a child to school one day per week - when you are going there anyway, doesn't seem a big deal really. Sounds a tad melodramatic

Either do this or dont. To say no is going to look petty tho perhaps,

All the other stuff about her being mortgage free is just white noise.

Starlight1979 · 19/09/2024 11:28

She's got 2 kids, one who is 12 (so basically requires pretty minimal "looking after") yet you have 3, including a 4 month old baby and she's asking YOU to look after her kids whilst her husband plays golf?!

The cheeky cow!!! Her and her husband should be ashamed of themselves. They won't be of course...

NetflixAndKill · 19/09/2024 11:09

She’s got a cheek tbh. I was in a similar position to you this time last year, although the mother wasn’t a close friend. Just someone I’d met at the school. She would drop it on me that she couldn’t pick her son up at least once a week. “Oh I’ve got a telephone doctors appointment as the exact time the school bell goes, I think I’ve got food poisoning, I have a migraine, I’m working, I finally flipped when she barged her way through a group of me and my actual mates talking, and demanded I give her a lift home by 9am because she had an online course!! The best part was, I live a 15 minute drive from the school, and she lives in the same street as the school. You can’t make it up! She hasn’t asked since though, so bonus! 🏆 💕

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2024 10:49

Megssy · 19/09/2024 09:29

Occasional help is no issue. And it doesn't inconvenience me too much which is why I'm conflicted.

It's the constant asking and lack of getting her own childcare that annoys me. Kids been in school 2 weeks and it's the 3rd favour she has asked me. My neighbour took her kid to school this morning. Another friend had her kid after school the other day. So you are talking g about 4 -5 "favours" a week although not all my way.

My friends are wonderful. We all help each other out which I love! I just not gone unnoticed that she asked 10 times more than everyone else when she has the least mental load of anyone I know

Anyway I only needed a rant.... after spending the weekend in the hospital with my dad I just don't appreciate being put on

Also in response to other comments. She asks for childcare favours but 100% don't think she forms friendships on that basis. Ie of I say no she won't ditch me. She just lives in her own world and doesn't see the bigger picture sometimes. I would rather rant here to strangers than to her 100% don't want to lose our friendship.

Thanks all for your thoughts

Also, where people have said “it’s just an extra child” - yes it is but she could as easily be offering to take your child to school as it’s “just an extra one” bearing in mind everything you’ve got in.

DazedAndConfused321 · 19/09/2024 10:47

Say you've already got your hands full, and maybe send some details of a local childminder you just happened to find. What a CF!

twohotwaterbottles · 19/09/2024 10:23

HelplessSoul · 19/09/2024 06:05

Tell her to fuck off and to look after the kids she gave birth to.

She doesnt sound like a friend at all.

She does however, sound like a free-loading cunt.

You make a good point 😂

DaisyChain505 · 19/09/2024 10:22

You have to learn to just say no. There doesn’t need to be a whole list of reasons why. Just a simple no I’m sorry that won’t work for me.

twohotwaterbottles · 19/09/2024 10:21

Just say you can't commit to a regular thing no. ☺️

Fluufer · 19/09/2024 10:04

Just say no. How much other help she gets is really irrelevant. And why don't you start asking her for help occassionally?

imverynosey · 19/09/2024 09:44

Wow is she insane? YANBU

Poettree · 19/09/2024 09:42

If you don't want to lose the friendship then you need to feel comfortable saying no. The alternative is to say yes and feel resentful, which could ultimately result in your loss of the friendship anyway.

What you need to find is a way of saying No to her that also lets her realise she's been unreasonable (although from what you've said she sounds stingy and also strategically oblivious which is a bad combo.)

ie if she messages - "Nope - exhausted right now with kids, baby, Dad being so unwell and can't take on anything extra, sorry!"

And just keep repeating that. I think it's reasonable to mention your dad. The invisible mental load of a parent with dementia is considerable, your plate is full.

Ideally she'll get the picture but ultimately if you decide you're done with giving her free childcare and will be saying no (and don't allow yourself to feel guilty) you'll be much happier.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2024 09:41

I don’t get asked for childcare favours often because people know I work full time (thank goodness).

And I have no trouble saying no if it does work, even if it’s not due to work.

But if I ever do say yes, I tend to say “oh it’s so nice for me to be able to help this time, as I almost never can”. Quite helpful in not creating an expectation! I don’t say it in a way that sounds PA!

Whammyammy · 19/09/2024 09:36

No no no no.

Megssy · 19/09/2024 09:29

Maria1979 · 19/09/2024 06:01

A friend asking you to walk her DC to school once a week as you're walking anyway doesn't seem too much of a favour to ask tbh. It's not like you're doing something you wouldn't do anyway. It wouldn't bother me a bit and I would be happy to help out. As long as you make it clear that if your DC is ill you won't be able to walk her DC obviously.

Why is it a problem for you? Do you never ask your friends to help you out? Next time it might be you needing help. I think YABU since It's just an extra child to take with you to school. As a Sahm I have been taking kids to and from school and also for whole days when school was closed. My children were happy for the company and I was happy to help out. I really don't understand your reluctance OP? Is she really a friend of yours?

Occasional help is no issue. And it doesn't inconvenience me too much which is why I'm conflicted.

It's the constant asking and lack of getting her own childcare that annoys me. Kids been in school 2 weeks and it's the 3rd favour she has asked me. My neighbour took her kid to school this morning. Another friend had her kid after school the other day. So you are talking g about 4 -5 "favours" a week although not all my way.

My friends are wonderful. We all help each other out which I love! I just not gone unnoticed that she asked 10 times more than everyone else when she has the least mental load of anyone I know

Anyway I only needed a rant.... after spending the weekend in the hospital with my dad I just don't appreciate being put on

Also in response to other comments. She asks for childcare favours but 100% don't think she forms friendships on that basis. Ie of I say no she won't ditch me. She just lives in her own world and doesn't see the bigger picture sometimes. I would rather rant here to strangers than to her 100% don't want to lose our friendship.

Thanks all for your thoughts

OP posts:
Megssy · 19/09/2024 09:20

MissTrip82 · 19/09/2024 02:48

I don’t really understand the comparison with her life, it’s not relevant.

You’re hands are full, fine to say no to any request.

The comparison is to compare to compare how chaotic my life is compares to hers. My dad's illness is dementia and fairly advance and my mum is no longer alive. My in-laws are ill also but live 200 miles away

Not bitter about her mortgage. But she openly says she doesn't want to pay for childcare which does wind me up when she us clearly in a position that she can afford it

Yeah comparison not directly needed but where my thoughts are lying and to fill ine the background info 🙂

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Phen0menon · 19/09/2024 08:29

Is it inconvenient for you to take her child to school once a week? If not then I don’t see the problem.

The point being, if you want a regular service, you pay money to someone who provides that. You don't request it for free from others.

Its a favour if you ask it once in a while because you're ill etc,not where you try and get friends to act as a childminder for you for free

CoffeeCantata · 19/09/2024 08:12

Her mortgage has nothing to do with you

I don't agree! All these pps saying OP is jealous - what a strange take.

Of course this friend's lifestyle and mortgage are relevant. OP is making the point that she is in the position to afford childcare but would rather get it free. Also, she clearly has family around (OP doesn't - I was in that position) and takes that for granted. She has much more flexibility than OP but is very entitled and has no awareness of how cheeky she's being.

Her husband shouldn't be playing golf while a put-upon friend watches their children!

I'm with you OP - you are not being unreasonable or jealous.

Thebellofstclements · 19/09/2024 08:07

The problem with a regular arrangement is that very quickly, rather than seeing it as a massive favour, it becomes expected. And then, when you decide you don't want to do it anymore, you are suddenly the baddie.

PelicanPopcorn · 19/09/2024 08:06

Setting up something reciprocal sounds a good plan and then you could go out a bit more?
You sound like you have a lot on and could do with a break - and nice to have someone you can mutually rely on.
I would try and forget about the mortgage difference! Don't think it's relevant and sounds slightly bitter which I'm sure isn't intended. She's clearly in a very lucky position!

MadCatWoman7 · 19/09/2024 08:04

And, it's a 'no' from me. Focus on your own little one and tell your friend that your little one likes to stop to look at the flowers and nature and is very interested in her walk to nursery and that is a precious time for just the two of you. No offence, but sounds as if your friend is a tad skiver where her kids are concerned. Her children, her, choice, her problem, she made them!

Swissvisa · 19/09/2024 08:04

If you have to pay £15 an hour for a night out because you have no one to help, can’t you use this reciprocally? If she asks for childcare in the week (and you’re able to accommodate) just say yes, but we need a babysitter on Sat night can you help too please? Then it’s either win win for you both, or she’ll stop asking.

LookItsMeAgain · 19/09/2024 07:58

HelplessSoul · 19/09/2024 06:05

Tell her to fuck off and to look after the kids she gave birth to.

She doesnt sound like a friend at all.

She does however, sound like a free-loading cunt.

100% this.

Her and her Sunday Golfing Husband.

Still trying to live the single life without their offspring interfering with their schedule. Well guess what??? When you have kids YOU become responsible for them, not your neighbours or friends. So be responsible for them, including giving up your Sunday round of golf or whatever.

WimpoleHat · 19/09/2024 07:56

You could say yes, if in exchange she'd babysit one Saturday evening a month.

In my experience at least, this is not how it works with people like this. They are takers. She’ll agree to it and then renege, leaving the OP stuck with a daily school run as she’ll look oh-so-petty if she then says she won’t do it. Someone reasonable would have offered her that to begin with - a could you do x for me and maybe I could do y or z for you? By the sound of it, this friend just looks for opportunities for childcare wherever she can. I’d steer well clear if I were the OP. Much better to try a reciprocal Saturday arrangement with someone else if that’s what she wants.

LookItsMeAgain · 19/09/2024 07:53

Why on earth don't you reply with "Sure I can look after little David/Annabelle but it will be €20/£15 per hour. My time is worth something so I've decided to start charging for it. I can give you my Venmo/Revolut/Bank Details so that you can pay when you collect your child".

They are only CFkers if we allow them to remain CFkers.

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