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No help from my mum

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Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 14:26

I'm unsure if I'm being unreasonable by expecting some help from my mum after having a baby.

I understand that having a baby was my choice and I knew the circumstances etc etc. I also do not expect my mum to come over and help all the time. She has her own life. I understand this.

But, my mum hasn't once come over during the week to help me with my newborn since he's been born. She has come over at weekends with a bit of reluctance (she would rather me come to hers). I understand she feels more comfortable in her own home, but I did say to her it will be more difficult for me to come to her after the baby is born, as it's a 45 min bus ride (I don't drive), and more difficult with a fussing baby. She doesn't drive either, so she would also have to do the 45 mins bus to mine, but I also live relatively near her work, so why not come to mine?

She is always going on about wanting to see her new grandson, how much she loves him, and how she wants him to know who she is when he's young. However, she'll never come over.

It would also be nice for me if she was able to come over, even just every so often, so I could do some more things in the house or just have someone to talk to (my partner is in the Navy, so is away for the next 4 months for the most part)

My mum knows how tough having a new baby can be, she's told be about her experience with my sister when she was a baby, how she almost went stir crazy with little help and no company. So I think she knows I'd be finding it tough.

I know it's a bit of an effort, but she'll travel over an hour on the train to see my sister quite often (once a month)

Anyway, she never comes over during the week. Maybe I'm being too sensitive and unreasonable for thinking she would want to, or make an effort. Thoughts?

OP posts:
Naunet · 18/09/2024 15:46

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:43

Do you think these jobs have transferable skills that would translate well to 9-5 work while earning enough money to support everyone?? My DH has been looking to get out of a role like this for years but no one is interested in hiring him for even close to the living wage.

In fact both DH and I have notoriously family unfriendly jobs and we do it with the help of our mothers. They wouldn’t see us struggle and they want to have a strong relationship with their grandson. they both got help from their grannies with us too so they see it as passing it forward.

OP is literally just looking for company during the week, not even for her mum to take on caring roles. That would be the same if her OH was working a 9-5 or away for months at a time. Its not a lot to ask if you actually like your child IMO.

Yeah, it’s always women who are expected to fill in the gaps for these men - for free of course. Is that fair?

Hugmorecats · 18/09/2024 15:44

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:01

I'm not mad at her at all. I just am a little confused - as she is forever going on about wanting to see her grandson, but doesn't visit all that often.

People say all sorts of things they don't really mean, or at least aren't able to follow through on. She may mean it in the moment, but then in reality gets tired out or distracted by other things when it comes to it.

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:43

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 15:36

Yes that’s exactly what I’d expect. Or women need to be in a relationship with men that don’t have jobs that require working away

Do you think these jobs have transferable skills that would translate well to 9-5 work while earning enough money to support everyone?? My DH has been looking to get out of a role like this for years but no one is interested in hiring him for even close to the living wage.

In fact both DH and I have notoriously family unfriendly jobs and we do it with the help of our mothers. They wouldn’t see us struggle and they want to have a strong relationship with their grandson. they both got help from their grannies with us too so they see it as passing it forward.

OP is literally just looking for company during the week, not even for her mum to take on caring roles. That would be the same if her OH was working a 9-5 or away for months at a time. Its not a lot to ask if you actually like your child IMO.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 15:42

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:36

She has every morning and afternoon free in the week and doesn't come every weekend.

Do you ever invite her over? Or ask her to meet you somewhere halfway for lunch/coffee/a walk in the park?

I don't think it's realistic or fair to expect her to do all the travelling, tbh.

Aquamarine1029 · 18/09/2024 15:42

Again, why haven't you asked her to stay for a few days? She could go to work from yours.

Hugmorecats · 18/09/2024 15:40

It would be nice if she did come more. I think a lot of us are just used to having no help at all, and we're probably a bit jealous of people with help or even just family who visit for a chat. The most help I've ever had from my parents was two hours babysitting, and they've visited a couple of times (they live a lot further away though). My kids are aged 8 and 4, so that's two hours help in eight years.

Comedycook · 18/09/2024 15:39

Yanbu. That's really shitty.

Fwiw, my mum is dead so I didn't get any help obviously but everyone I know who has a baby and a mum living relatively near has had a lot of help and support especially in the early days.

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:38

PassingStranger · 18/09/2024 15:31

If your that close talk to her. Nobody on here can solve your dilemma. It's between you two.

I have said that I won't be able to come to hers as much, as the bus with a baby is a little too much, and that she may have to come over to mine more... to which she said she would. She also has said that when my partner goes to sea, she'll be seeing the baby more. But now it appears to be that is only the case if I come over to hers

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Naunet · 18/09/2024 15:37

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:36

She has every morning and afternoon free in the week and doesn't come every weekend.

Have you discussed with your partner about him changing career because you need more support? You really should be looking to him first.

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 15:36

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:20

Genuine question. Do you expect the father to leave his job to suit family life better? We would have no dads in the navy, police or army. Or should a woman not date/marry anyone in these professions?

Yes that’s exactly what I’d expect. Or women need to be in a relationship with men that don’t have jobs that require working away

Candyiris · 18/09/2024 15:36

I think you're getting a hard time on here OP. Typical MN race to the bottom. It's perfectly normal (and really quite common) for grandparents to help out with grandchildren. My DD and her family have recently moved much closer to us so we can help out more. We weren't consulted, they just decided it was a good idea (even though son-in-law has to stay in London during the week), so now we help out quite a bit even though we're both still working. We love our daughter and grandchildren, so naturally we want to help when we can, as any loving parent would do if they're able. I don't understand your mother's attitude at all. If she works close to where you live surely she can pop in before work occasionally?

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:36

Maddy70 · 18/09/2024 15:33

She works in the week. Shes coming at weekends. Youre being v unreasonable

She has every morning and afternoon free in the week and doesn't come every weekend.

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Maddy70 · 18/09/2024 15:33

She works in the week. Shes coming at weekends. Youre being v unreasonable

BubziOwl · 18/09/2024 15:32

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 18/09/2024 15:23

I can't imagine treating any of my daughters like this.

When I had my three children my mother came from a different country for a month. I didn't even have to ask.

What is she like as a mum?

I agree, I find mumsnet very odd on issues like this. I truly don't know anyone who would be so uncaring towards their child, let alone one who has MS and a husband who works away. Totally bizarre.

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:32

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 15:23

On MN, there’s this weird stance that your parents don’t need to show any interest in your baby/child as they have their own life to get on with.

In reality, so many parents make the effort and try their upmost best to support their child and grandchild. Unfortunately, my mum is like your mum OP. Except she doesn’t work and moans about how much she misses her grand babies but doesn’t put any effort in to see them.

Meanwhile, my friends have mum’s that work full time and go over and beyond to help their children out. Some parents just aren’t willing to put the effort in but MN will tell you they don’t need to give a fuck in the first place.

I also think it’s a massive cultural thing too

Thank you for this, I was starting to think that expecting a little bit of support during the week/time to time is a completely unreasonable ask.

I just find it harder to understand, as I would absolutely be there for my child if this were them.

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betterangels · 18/09/2024 15:32

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:20

Genuine question. Do you expect the father to leave his job to suit family life better? We would have no dads in the navy, police or army. Or should a woman not date/marry anyone in these professions?

If he has a baby with a woman with MS, which I know can be absolutely brutal, he should find a job that doesn't take him away for long periods. Yes, I think that. A lot of parents have to make such decisions for the sake of the family.

PassingStranger · 18/09/2024 15:31

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:27

I really was just asking if I was being unreasonable to think my mum might have come to visit more, considering the circumstances. I do not expect it, and I am by no means a spoilt brat, nor demand it.

I'm am not a particular need of extra support, but of course, it's always a bit hard, and help is always appreciated.

My mum and I are pretty close. This is why I thought she might have come round a little bit more.

If your that close talk to her. Nobody on here can solve your dilemma. It's between you two.

Terrribletwos · 18/09/2024 15:30

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:27

I really was just asking if I was being unreasonable to think my mum might have come to visit more, considering the circumstances. I do not expect it, and I am by no means a spoilt brat, nor demand it.

I'm am not a particular need of extra support, but of course, it's always a bit hard, and help is always appreciated.

My mum and I are pretty close. This is why I thought she might have come round a little bit more.

You say you are close so I suspect you have asked why she doesn't visit more; what did she say?

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:27

I really was just asking if I was being unreasonable to think my mum might have come to visit more, considering the circumstances. I do not expect it, and I am by no means a spoilt brat, nor demand it.

I'm am not a particular need of extra support, but of course, it's always a bit hard, and help is always appreciated.

My mum and I are pretty close. This is why I thought she might have come round a little bit more.

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alpacachino · 18/09/2024 15:25

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:20

Genuine question. Do you expect the father to leave his job to suit family life better? We would have no dads in the navy, police or army. Or should a woman not date/marry anyone in these professions?

I think if his wife and child needs him at home more then yes he should consider a job that involves less travel. And I say that as someone whose husband is regularly away for periods of time.

If they aren't going to make that decision then it's not fair to complain that someone else doesn't step up to provide more support in his absence.

Naunet · 18/09/2024 15:24

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:20

Genuine question. Do you expect the father to leave his job to suit family life better? We would have no dads in the navy, police or army. Or should a woman not date/marry anyone in these professions?

Simply, yes. If their partner expects/wants him to be a good dad and partner and doesn’t want to or can’t cope with doing it all alone, he should leave before having children. Women have to often work jobs that are compatible with motherhood, it’s not unreasonable to expect the same from men. Do you consider all the jobs women can’t do because they have to factor so much childcare as their husband is working away for months on end?

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 15:23

Chickadoo · 18/09/2024 15:19

I totally understand this. There is a bigger back story. When my partner is here, my mum is very nasty and spiteful if I'm spending time with him. She's told me many times 'she is looking forward to him going to sea, so she'll see her grandson more' . (She's never been left out, is always been made to feel welcome and my partner has been lovely to her, she just doesn't like him). But now he has gone, she isn't seeing him more. I don't know what to think really

So what's the backstory with your partner? Does she have a reason not to approve of your relationship - does she think you shouldn't have had a baby with him maybe?

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 15:23

On MN, there’s this weird stance that your parents don’t need to show any interest in your baby/child as they have their own life to get on with.

In reality, so many parents make the effort and try their upmost best to support their child and grandchild. Unfortunately, my mum is like your mum OP. Except she doesn’t work and moans about how much she misses her grand babies but doesn’t put any effort in to see them.

Meanwhile, my friends have mum’s that work full time and go over and beyond to help their children out. Some parents just aren’t willing to put the effort in but MN will tell you they don’t need to give a fuck in the first place.

I also think it’s a massive cultural thing too

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 15:23

Theirishwoman · 18/09/2024 15:20

Genuine question. Do you expect the father to leave his job to suit family life better? We would have no dads in the navy, police or army. Or should a woman not date/marry anyone in these professions?

I think people need to think about the reality of having a partner who works away when they start a family, yes. That may mean the partner finding a more "9-5" type job or deciding that, actually, they don't want a child with someone who's never there.

I mean, I don't even want children and would still never date someone who was in any of those jobs as I don't believe they're compatible with a healthy work/life balance or a good relationship.

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 18/09/2024 15:23

I can't imagine treating any of my daughters like this.

When I had my three children my mother came from a different country for a month. I didn't even have to ask.

What is she like as a mum?