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Do you usually Tip on top of the bill when you eat out?

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LunarLass · 18/09/2024 13:31

Hi everyone,
Just curious, how many of you usually leave a tip when you eat out?
I generally don't, but the other day, we went out with some friends who always tip. This time, I stuck to paying just for what we ordered—no tip—and you should've seen the looks on our friends' faces! Our bill came to £55, so it wasn't exactly cheap, to be honest. The meal was lovely, no complaints there; it's just that I don't usually tip out of principle, since they're getting paid for their job like anyone else

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ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 16:11

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You're (correct spelling), very unnecessarily rude

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 16:09

VeryQuaintIrene · 18/09/2024 13:58

20% standard here in the US, pushing towards 25% and for absurd things like handing you a cup of coffee! Very annoying but waitpersons get paid a tiny amount per hour and in all conscience you kind of have to offer a decent tip if you can afford to eat out.

A waitperson?
Waiter or waitress. The term wait staff makes no sense, sounds like an order!

Sparklywhiteteeth · 18/09/2024 16:07

Of course I tip, I simply count it as part of the cost of the meal. I’d not look aghast if someone didn’t, I’d just add the tip and say nothing.

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MagicianMoth · 18/09/2024 16:07

I prefer it if the service charge is already added, but if not I tip around 10%. I would probably have left a £5 tip on your £55 bill.

rumred · 18/09/2024 16:05

My parents tipped bar staff, taxis and hairdressers as well as waiting staff. If you're OK for money why wouldn't you?
I'm proudly parsimonious but I tip loads even on my small pension. It's just kinder. More decent.
However I don't tip taxis or hairdressers. They seem to be well off enough.

Disturbia81 · 18/09/2024 16:04

I don't get tips, so many on min wage don't. I don't tip as I can't afford to and this is normal where I'm from.

Madcatwoman68 · 18/09/2024 16:04

I think adding a service charge in restaurants is weird.
No other service has this added on,so why are restaurants so special?

My neighbour is a health care assistant. She works long unsociable hours caring for people and their families. No one tips her . Why?
She held the hands of people dying during the pandemic as visitors were not allowed. She is a band 3 on a very low wage but does incredible work dealing with all sorts of patients.

Maybe the NHS should add a service charge to supplement her salary.

It's a topsy turvy world isn't it

TorghunKhan · 18/09/2024 16:04

10% always on all meals where you eat in. From Pizza Hut to a posh place.

it’s a terrible system but it’s the one we have. They need the money.

Andanotherone01 · 18/09/2024 16:01

I always used to - was brought up to by my parents. I've stopped doing it though, for a variety of reasons; mainly because the price of dining out has shot through the roof. I also think service and the quality of the food is usually just 'ok' sometimes pretty bad, so they don't deserve a tip. If somewhere was really good then I would leave 10 percent. I don't ever remove service charge added to the bill though.

Anonym00se · 18/09/2024 15:59

MissPobjoysPonies · 18/09/2024 14:27

There is no doubt waiting staff should be paid more, but running a hospitality business is excruciatingly expensive - many close weekly.

However suggesting that a waitressing minimum wage job is the same as a supermarket job is ridiculous. They do much of the same role (carrying/restocking/standing) BUT they also have to know all the allergens of the food, give recommendations (do you ask staff at the supermarket what the latest ready meal is like - it’s not hugely usual to do so). And importantly they have to put up with often rude, lewd customers, some of which treat them like shit.

And tipping is a new thing? Don’t be ridiculous, it’s been part of our culture for decades - hairdressers, hair washers, postal workers, milkman etc. So let’s not pretend it’s a recent thing from the US!

That’s not true. My DS has severe allergies and they just go and fetch a book and make you look through it, or told to look on the website. Twice we’ve been told by wait staff that something was safe when it wasn’t. Nobody with life-threatening allergies would trust a teenage waiter/waitress to know whether a meal was safe.

Supermarket staff also have to put up with rude customers, but we don’t bung the cashier at Tesco an extra £15 when we do our shopping because they’re on minimum wage.

C152 · 18/09/2024 15:57

As 12.5% is automatically added to the bill in almost every restaurant now, I feel guilted into paying it because they make such a fuss of taking it off the bill. I've only declined to pay it once, because of truly abysmal service, and the server had the gall to have a go at me about it!

Putting · 18/09/2024 15:48

I tip if there’s the option to add it to the bill when I pay (unless a service charge is already included).

I don’t generally carry cash around, though, so if there’s no option to add it on the card machine then I can’t tip.

MaybeSmaller · 18/09/2024 15:48

I do tip in the UK (only if no service charge is already included) but never more than 10%. Normally it's just a few loose coins or I round up the bill to a reasonable amount.
Certainly not like in the USA where tips of 15% or even 20% are considered the norm.

SleepyLlamaFace · 18/09/2024 15:46

Always at least 10%, unless service charge was included.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 18/09/2024 15:46

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 18/09/2024 15:17

gotmyknickersinatwist, cool gif but what's your point? Where is your concern for the other minimum wage staff who are not tipped? Relying on a gratuity to cover your bills isn't ideal, is it?

Everytime these threads come up I think of care workers/nursing staff and others who provide services that by rights, ought to be far better paid and aren't. They don't even get tips and there's no Mumsnet thread breast-beating about that.

If and when I do receive exceptional service then I very much make a point of (quietly) appreciating it. I leave the rest of the noisy shrapnel tipping to the bosom hoickers here.

You said 'if you rely on tips then you need to get a job that earns more'
It's Tommy Cooper in the gif. His catchphrase was 'just like that'.

ETA Relying on a gratuity to cover your bills isn't ideal, is it?
I would argue that if someone relies on tips to pay their bills, then they have a problem with managing their money. When I was single & child-free on a minimum-wage hospitality job I lived within my means. Now, as a parent, I would struggle on minimum wage. Friends who work full-time on minimum wage need UC to top-up. That shouldn't be the case. Minimum wage should be enough to support yourself on.

It's not just care workers/nursing staff and others who provide services who ought to be far better paid.
You could apply your argument to those professions too, that they need to get a job that earns more if they can't support themselves on their pay. Minimum wage simply isn't enough for most people.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I believe care workers should be paid much much more than they currently are, which is, I believe, typically minimum wage. They do an INCREDIBLE job.

jolota · 18/09/2024 15:44

I don't routinely tip when eating out, though sometimes round up the bill. It feels like an Americanism to me, the fact that its apparently become expected.
I don't particularly understand why wait staff deserve more money for doing their jobs than other minimum wage jobs that don't have the culture of tipping.
That being said, I do know that its a flash point for some people, so when eating out with friends, I just follow their lead and round up if everyone is leaving a tip. However, I've noticed that people tend to leave 0-5% tips that seem to bear no relation to the actual service received.

SallyWD · 18/09/2024 15:41

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/09/2024 14:07

That's what I don't understand - I'm older than you are and my parents have always tipped too. I was certainly taught as a child that it was the done thing! So not sure why people feel it isn't part of UK culture?!

I honestly think it's just young people assuming it's some modern American import like baby showers or something but it's not. My grandmother was born in 1910 and always tipped at restaurants, cafes, hairdresser etc. Tipped the porter at hotels. She was always tipping.

SLeanne · 18/09/2024 15:39

We don't generally tip when we eat out as a family. However, if we were eating out as part of a larger group of friends, and others wanted to tip, we would do the same so as not to embarass others / ourselves esp if it's only a few pounds on a rare gathering. And I always tip my hairdresser as she comes to my house, is loyal and punctual and she fits me in at short notice.

rainfallpurevividcat · 18/09/2024 15:37

Sometimes I find there is no way to tip. Paid on card, no facility to add a tip on the card reader and I have no cash on me. I assume they have a no tip policy and go about my day.

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/09/2024 15:35

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/09/2024 13:40

Yes, I always tip, unless we've had really lousy service. I tip more generously if the service is exceptional but usually 10% as a minimum. Service staff are typically paid minimum wage and rely on tips to get by, so I think it's pretty mean not to personally, but each to their own. If money was tight, I'd go out less often rather than not tipping.

This makes no sense to me. Do you tip everyone else on minimum wage?

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 18/09/2024 15:34

Depends a proper restaurant with proper service, yes. A chain where you order on an app, no.

distractmeagain · 18/09/2024 15:33

in the UK yes we do... but its based on the service we have received, we don't always tip.. and we always give cash to our waiter/waitress because if it gets added to the bill.. they don't see it

PutOnYourRedShoesAndLetsDance · 18/09/2024 15:33

Always.. if we are paying by card.. we make sure we have some cash for the tip.
I don't know anyone who doesn't in my family and friends circle... if they didn't want to.. l would think them very mean

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/09/2024 15:31

narns · 18/09/2024 13:56

There's a new law coming in in October to protect employees tips from employers (employers will have to pass on the full tips with no deductions).

Good luck with that; the very worst employers will carry on regardless, but fortunately there's always the option to work for someone else

Like so maany others I won't tip for poor or mediocre service, but certainly will if they've made a real effort - unless of course service is already added, in which case not