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What compensation would you want for this?

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FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 18/09/2024 10:48

The major kitchen company involved have asked me, and there's a big difference between what me and DH think.

In short...

We planned the kitchen in January in-store, which was a great process.

Payment was awful. They insist on online payment and sent us links, which we paid, but then deluged us in 18 more links. We talked to them and they said it was an error - but then as the 18 extras were not paid, the order was cancelled. It took 2 days to sort out again.

Two weeks before fitting was due to begin, we were told the gas work that was supposed to be covered could no longer be done, and we'd need to find our own engineer at our own cost before fitting could begin. We did, and the engineer discovered the placement of the boiler, sink and hob were non-compliant. We had to drive 90 minutes to a different store for an urgent re-design, which meant the hob we'd bought privately didn't fit, and we lost two cupboards worth of space.

The dishwasher they sold us was out-of-stock, constantly. Eventually a member of staff told us it would not be available and the only one they had in a similar size was a lot less efficient. Swapping out the dishwasher removed our "4 for 3" appliance offer, which has still not been fixed.

Five days before installation, we were asked to send photos to confirm our old kitchen had been fully removed in order for installation to go ahead, which is not fun with a toddler!

Three days before installation, most of the kitchen arrived, but the dishwasher and worktops did not. Customer Services then told us that none of the worktops or island had ever been ordered, despite us paying them. We lost DAYS to calling them to try and sort this out.

The fitters found several items missing, including whole drawers, hinges and doors. Temporary worktops were sourced, but we were not sent enough for the island to be constructed fully, and the fitters were not sure it was safe without worktops, so we were left with an unusable kitchen (which is open-plan in our downstairs, and again really difficult with a toddler!). Then then sent us 30 random kitchen items, none of them the missing ones, which we've had to store since May, which has basically filled the basement.

On the last day of fitting, the new worktops were due, and didn't arrive. The fitters left as they had nothing else to do, but had forgotten to secure the oven into the casing, which fell and hit my foot. I was not seriously injured, but amidst all the stress from the fitting, I had a miscarriage. I can't prove this was because of the kitchen, but I do have a note from EPU with it as the 'suspected cause', due to stress. I'm heartbroken about it regardless.

We've since had three sets of new worktops delivered, all of which have taken at least a month to arrive, and none of which are right. We've finally had the correct colour arrive, but it's not double-sided, so it'll look rubbish on the overhanging part of the island. They've also not sent new worktops for the side, which the fitter expected, so he hasn't fitted the existing ones well - but it is passable.

The final bit should be fitted next week, which will then hopefully finish the kitchen. It should have been completed in the first week of May.

I'm self-employed and lost 8 days of work to trying to sort out all the errors. It's been really stressful, and required constant phone calls and chasing. Promised manager call-backs never come, and nobody seems to read the same notes.

The customer services manager has promised that they'll review the complaint once the kitchen is finalised. I don't hold out much hope - she keeps referring to my miscarriage with smiley face emojis in the same sentence - but what would you be looking for?

I'd quite like them to take it all out, to be honest, but I appreciate that's an emotional response and not a logical one.

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Bearbookagainandagain · 19/10/2024 20:19

You could try the Guardian or the Times consumer champions (their might be others I don't know about), they do get results if they pick up your case.

[email protected]
Or
[email protected]

They don't deserve a cent of your money.

BIossomtoes · 19/10/2024 19:40

Small claims court. It’s atrocious, I thought Wren were pretty shit with our kitchen but it pales into insignificance compared with this.

AlertCat · 19/10/2024 19:09

Unbelievable. Appalling. What a piss-take on their part.

I’m so sorry for all you have been through.

Radio 4 have a consumer programme, You and Yours. They might well take on your case and argue for a decent settlement if you wanted them to.

DinosaurMunch · 19/10/2024 19:03

Berga · 18/09/2024 11:42

I'm sorry this happened to you, its shit.

I'd want to be back in the same position before they darkened your door, so I'd want full refund, the kitchen removed at their cost, compensation for your 8 days work and then for the stress and accident.

I'd name them here too.

I agree

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 19/10/2024 18:50

Laughably; they’ve emailed me on a Saturday to offer me about 6% of the kitchen cost to “make amends”.

That doesn’t even cover the actual financial losses I had; let alone anything else. Joke.

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AllThatEverWas · 15/10/2024 09:28

I'd include a link to this thread on a new email and explain that you want this resolved immediately. And that you will add further details - including the number of times that you have to chase them and receive no answer - to this thread as and when. You've kept it factual so it should answer all of their questions.

You haven't named them - yet

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 15/10/2024 09:22

Yeah, Resolver are on the case, but don't seem to be getting much of a reply. The social media team for the kitchen company have been brilliant too, but seemed to give up yesterday, they messaged to say their emails about it are no longer being answered so I'd be better to call the main line and start again 🙄

I'm so frustrated. You'd think they'd want it resolved.

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Ivehearditbothways · 14/10/2024 11:54

Have you tried going through Resolver? It’s free for you and they’re brilliant at sorting things for you.

Dotto · 14/10/2024 11:51

I don't know but these places are a complete scam, along with Sharps Bedrooms etc. Always best to get a local company in.

ThisHangryPinkBalonz · 14/10/2024 11:49

Is there someone you could contact like local newspaper, social media, Martin lewis, those daytime tv shows that solves problems etc.
All sounds horrendous, and I would want a full refund minimum.

Whyherewego · 14/10/2024 11:41

Did you pay on credit card? Can you go via thar route as they are failing to resolve the complaints

CoastalCalm · 14/10/2024 11:41

My brother had similar experience with Wren , had to arrange electrician and plumber at short notice despite them saying they would provide then left the wires without plaster when finished

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 14/10/2024 11:38

Just by way of an update, they failed with the new island too, it's 8cm too short and only finished on one side. The complaints handler said she felt they shouldn't try to fix it this time. I asked for a full refund, and told them they could remove the kitchen if they wanted, and she went off sick.

A week later, someone from the CEO's team contacted me to apologise and ask for more details on where we were... and has now failed to reply for over a week.

Joy.

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MadeForThis · 19/09/2024 19:21

Refund in full plus compensation.

Lougle · 19/09/2024 18:25

I think you've had such a catalogue of disasters that you're feeling numb to it all. That is a terrible story. I had a (long desired) cooker delivered on Monday, and then realised it was faulty after the installer left. I have to wait until Sunday for a replacement and it made me want to cry. That's just a cooker. Yours is 70% of your downstairs living space.

Autumn1990 · 19/09/2024 18:14

I would ask them to come and take everything away and refund you in full. As you will never like the kitchen after all you’ve been through with it.

BellaEllaWella · 19/09/2024 18:13

Wren MD:
[email protected]
Magnet ceo
[email protected]
From this point on only liaise with the CEO/MD - customer service is a waste of time as they don’t authorisation to do anything

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/09/2024 17:41

My betting is Magnet too.

The only reason our kitchen went smoothly is that I checked and double checked everything including appliance codes as they ordered us one black oven and one chrome. 🙄

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/09/2024 17:40

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 19/09/2024 14:07

DH wants me to email and say that we want a complete refund, and compensation for the missed work days. He is not bothered by their attempts to fix it, and he is unfussed if they want to come and strip the kitchen out as a result, although he says they'd need to fully pay for it.

I don't think the customer services manager is going to offer much at all, and I'm not sure whether to wait for her to offer something and then try and negotiate from there, or to email and re-state our position on everything that has happened, and ask for a fair figure.

Thanks for all the thoughts! It's been difficult to see what is reasonable while in the thick of it all. I can't believe it's turned into such a nightmare. We planned it so carefully, as our kitchen takes up 70% of our downstairs... I avoid it as much as I can now. It brings no joy at all.

Nooooo! Don't wait for them to offer first . Get straight in asking for a full refund.

Whyherewego · 19/09/2024 17:39

I just reject the whole thing. It doesn't sound like a good kitchen at all now

BlueMum16 · 19/09/2024 17:36

FiveHundredDucksWentOutOneDay · 19/09/2024 14:07

DH wants me to email and say that we want a complete refund, and compensation for the missed work days. He is not bothered by their attempts to fix it, and he is unfussed if they want to come and strip the kitchen out as a result, although he says they'd need to fully pay for it.

I don't think the customer services manager is going to offer much at all, and I'm not sure whether to wait for her to offer something and then try and negotiate from there, or to email and re-state our position on everything that has happened, and ask for a fair figure.

Thanks for all the thoughts! It's been difficult to see what is reasonable while in the thick of it all. I can't believe it's turned into such a nightmare. We planned it so carefully, as our kitchen takes up 70% of our downstairs... I avoid it as much as I can now. It brings no joy at all.

Refund in full.

Also did you pay for any of it in your credit card? They would be on the hook too so speak to them also

millymoo1202 · 19/09/2024 17:31

I think it’s reasonable for a full refund. I work for an independent kitchen installer, thus just would not happen. We use a German manufacturer and a traditional British one, all units come built and if it’s been measured correctly there should be no issue. An average sized kitchen should take 2 weeks unless solid worktops and there’s no way you should be sourcing gas engineers etc, that’s what you are paying us to do! I’m assuming assuming it’s W Birdy as this is pretty much the normal for them

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 19/09/2024 17:31

Your husband is completely right here! I'd have refused to have paid for what they said was included and got them to pay for it (because if they say they can do it and you've proceeded based on that, it's for them to sort) but free kitchen is the very least!

Name and shame after you've got your compensation!

That's not emotional but rational in my eyes.

I'm sorry for your loss and I absolutely would be emphasising this!

Sewfrickinamazeballs · 19/09/2024 17:28

If it's wren, get into the wren kitchen disasters Facebook page.

Long term, might be better off with it being removed and a decent kitchen installed. The product is poor, not just the customer service.

alpacachino · 19/09/2024 17:13

I do think they owe you compensation as well for the stress caused. Usually I think this is just a way to get an extra £50 out of A company but in your case I think they have caused you actual serious emotional damage so I'd see a solicitor

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