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To also lock cat out of the room?

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JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 07:55

DD used to have cat in her room. He is an orange cat and she has a desk with built in shelves with lots of trinkets on and he always tries to jump up and knock everything off.

So he's taken to sleeping in my room, but he wakes me up all the time. Jumping up and down off his bed (thick blankets onto of the wardrobe) and coming to make biscuits on my face at 4am.

He can't sleep in the living room (dog)

I was thinking of getting him a big tall cat tree for the upstairs hall, so just outside my bedroom, something with an enclosed bed to keep him warm over winter.

I feel mean locking him out of all the bedrooms at night but he is really naughty and loves to knock things over! Funnily he doesn't do it in the daytime!

OP posts:
DrummingMousWife · 18/09/2024 15:39

Oh dear. You haven’t accepted that this is “his”
house now……..

just a joke from another cat slave 😂

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:39

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

Nope. Her very first words on the thread was 'poor cat'

She then followed up with how I need to put the emotional needs of my cat above my own.

Which is ridiculous

OP posts:
LuckySantangelo35 · 18/09/2024 15:37

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

@takealettermsjones

well to be fair that kind of reponse is to be expected when the poster is implying that good cat ownership means sacrificing your own sleep to accommodate the cats preference to be in your bedroom!

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 15:33

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:31

This.

You told me I shouldn't own a cat. And inferred I'm an unfit owner.

Take your faux outrage elsewhere.

Maybe volunteer at some shelters where cats actually need help, then you wouldn't have the time or energy to misdirect your emotions at people that don't deserve it.

Edited

She said this after you called her a martyr and said you might nominate her for a Pride of Britain award.

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:32

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:11

What you need is a cosy cat sleeping bag...

(Facebook reels clearly has an amazing algorithm to show me this right now!)

Edited

Ok forget the cat, do they do them in human size!?

OP posts:
JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 15:31

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:12

You basically accused the OP of neglecting her cat. That's nasty and hardly just "offering an opinion" is it?

This.

You told me I shouldn't own a cat. And inferred I'm an unfit owner.

Take your faux outrage elsewhere.

Maybe volunteer at some shelters where cats actually need help, then you wouldn't have the time or energy to misdirect your emotions at people that don't deserve it.

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:12

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 15:06

Well I wasn't going to post again but just tell me why you needed to get a final nasty dig in? My last post wasn't even addressed to you.

My intention when I put my original comment on was just to put one post on. It's only because of you , and other posters, quoting me back and being unpleasant have I come back to answer your snide remarks.

You posted in AIBU. I gave an opinion. You didn't like my opinion. Fair enough. Why you and other posters have to be so unpleasant about it I don't know.

You have plenty of other pp backing you up. Why not just ignore what I had to say? Why post in AIBU if you don't want differing viewpoints?

You basically accused the OP of neglecting her cat. That's nasty and hardly just "offering an opinion" is it?

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 15:11

What you need is a cosy cat sleeping bag...

(Facebook reels clearly has an amazing algorithm to show me this right now!)

To also lock cat out of the room?
Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 15:06

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:14

Hurray!

Well I wasn't going to post again but just tell me why you needed to get a final nasty dig in? My last post wasn't even addressed to you.

My intention when I put my original comment on was just to put one post on. It's only because of you , and other posters, quoting me back and being unpleasant have I come back to answer your snide remarks.

You posted in AIBU. I gave an opinion. You didn't like my opinion. Fair enough. Why you and other posters have to be so unpleasant about it I don't know.

You have plenty of other pp backing you up. Why not just ignore what I had to say? Why post in AIBU if you don't want differing viewpoints?

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:59

BTW the cat NEVER sleeps with me. He sleeps on top of the wardrobe.

If he stayed up there it wouldn't be an issue. But he jumps down, to my dressing table, knocking things over. Gets on my bed, not to sleep, but to pat my face, knead my chest or bite my toes if they're out of the covers.

So he's not 'used to sleeping with me' because he sleeps on his own, the other side of the room

OP posts:
takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:59

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:45

On the flip side, maybe you shouldn't go around accusing people of being cruel or neglectful if you don't want backlash for it. I actually don't think that poster has been polite at all, and she's been (rightly) called out for her comments.

OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong - cats don't need to sleep in with their owners even if that's what they've been allowed to do before. Prioritising the sleep of a human is not "cruel" in any sense of the word.

Well, she didn't accuse anyone of cruelty or neglect. Read her posts again 😉

Politeness is subjective, I guess.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:45

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:37

I have - she said it's important to get to know a pet's individual needs and respond to them, so she said it was cruel to deny access to a bedroom if that's what the cat clearly wants. As I said, that's a bit different from putting a cat in the kitchen at night from day one. We have no idea whether the OP has tried anything like... simply putting the ornaments in a box.

Obviously you might not agree with her and that's fine, but actually that poster has been polite and simply offered her own view, and she's been met with defensive and mocking replies. I don't know why people post in AIBU if they can't handle hearing someone else's point of view!

On the flip side, maybe you shouldn't go around accusing people of being cruel or neglectful if you don't want backlash for it. I actually don't think that poster has been polite at all, and she's been (rightly) called out for her comments.

OP is doing absolutely nothing wrong - cats don't need to sleep in with their owners even if that's what they've been allowed to do before. Prioritising the sleep of a human is not "cruel" in any sense of the word.

Perroi · 18/09/2024 14:38

It's a cat. Not a person, not a child.
Shut it in another room. If it doesn't have a cat flap it will be fine anywhere as long as it has a litter tray and food.
My cat is shut in the kitchen at night, he can come and go as he likes but even during the day he's not allowed in bedrooms.

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 14:37

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:05

Read her other responses - she thinks it's cruel for cat owners to shut their cats out of bedrooms, even when it impacts their own sleep.

I have - she said it's important to get to know a pet's individual needs and respond to them, so she said it was cruel to deny access to a bedroom if that's what the cat clearly wants. As I said, that's a bit different from putting a cat in the kitchen at night from day one. We have no idea whether the OP has tried anything like... simply putting the ornaments in a box.

Obviously you might not agree with her and that's fine, but actually that poster has been polite and simply offered her own view, and she's been met with defensive and mocking replies. I don't know why people post in AIBU if they can't handle hearing someone else's point of view!

NewGreenDuck · 18/09/2024 14:19

Mine have always been shut in downstairs but with access to the cat flap. Each has been able to sleep, eat, go out at will. Several cat baskets so they can pick and choose where they sleep. I just find that easier. They seem happy.

Toddlerteaplease · 18/09/2024 14:18

Have you got my late Orange car, Cheddar reincarnated. She'd always make biscuits on my face at ungodly hours. It was a pain at the time, but I miss it now!

SoupDragon · 18/09/2024 14:15

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:08

I really don't want to get into an argument over this.
But actually she listed all the places the cat couldn't go at night: kitchen too cold, living room not suitable because of dog, dd's room not suitable because of ornaments, OP's room not suitable because he keeps her awake.
So it does smack of not forward planning to take into account the poor cat's night time needs.

I'm not trying to knock the OP. But I admit I am fiercely pro cat. And pro a lot of pets actually. Not so sure about my pro human stance.

I'm not posting further on the thread

Cats are not nocturnal.

They are crepuscular (most active at dawn and dusk).

JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:14

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:08

I really don't want to get into an argument over this.
But actually she listed all the places the cat couldn't go at night: kitchen too cold, living room not suitable because of dog, dd's room not suitable because of ornaments, OP's room not suitable because he keeps her awake.
So it does smack of not forward planning to take into account the poor cat's night time needs.

I'm not trying to knock the OP. But I admit I am fiercely pro cat. And pro a lot of pets actually. Not so sure about my pro human stance.

I'm not posting further on the thread

Hurray!

OP posts:
JulianBoon · 18/09/2024 14:14

Kelly51 · 18/09/2024 14:06

slightly off topic but why is every day things now described as 'bonding'
It's a nice bonding thing we have to find silly videos about them
twee twee

Because she is autistic and it's extremely hard to connect with her over things. So this is one of the things she actively enages in with me, without prompting and it feels really special when I know she's seen something and taken the time to send it to me off her own back.

Hope that's OK with you?

OP posts:
Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:08

LuckySantangelo35 · 18/09/2024 14:01

@Ohwhatacircusitis

ok… so he can go and be nocturnal in her kitchen or living room or wherever - as opposed to in her bedroom where she is trying to sleep - cant he?

I really don't want to get into an argument over this.
But actually she listed all the places the cat couldn't go at night: kitchen too cold, living room not suitable because of dog, dd's room not suitable because of ornaments, OP's room not suitable because he keeps her awake.
So it does smack of not forward planning to take into account the poor cat's night time needs.

I'm not trying to knock the OP. But I admit I am fiercely pro cat. And pro a lot of pets actually. Not so sure about my pro human stance.

I'm not posting further on the thread

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:07

In fact, as someone who works with animals, I'd say the most unpleasant to be around (of any species) are those who are indulged in every aspect of their lives and who have never had any kind of boundaries enforced on them.

Kelly51 · 18/09/2024 14:06

slightly off topic but why is every day things now described as 'bonding'
It's a nice bonding thing we have to find silly videos about them
twee twee

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:05

takealettermsjones · 18/09/2024 13:31

It's really not fair to insinuate that everyone who prioritises their sleep over having a cat in the bed/room with them is cruel

I don't think that's what that poster was insinuating... My understanding was that she found it cruel in this case given that OP's cat has got used to sleeping in DD's room but then been banned from there, then has got used to sleeping in OP's room and now looking at being banned from there. It's a bit different from being in the kitchen every night from the word go. Sorry if I've misunderstood but that was my interpretation.

Read her other responses - she thinks it's cruel for cat owners to shut their cats out of bedrooms, even when it impacts their own sleep.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 18/09/2024 14:04

Ohwhatacircusitis · 18/09/2024 14:00

Well as has been pointed out cats are nocturnal creatures.

If you don't want a nocturnal pet then don't buy one.

I'm sure OP loves her cat. And as she said up thread she is prepared to spend a lot of money on him. But that doesn't change the fact that cats are nocturnal and she must have known that when she got him.

Actually, cats are not nocturnal - they're crepuscular.

Having pets doesn't translate to indulging their every whim and allowing them to rule your life, even when it starts to have a negative impact on your own health and happiness Hmm

Snowpaw · 18/09/2024 14:04

My cat is full on nocturnal hunter - as soon as its dark outside he wants a big bowl of food then he goes out all night. He has access to a small utility room with his food in if he wants to shelter from rain. My DP leaves for work about 5.30am so he feeds him and lets him into the living room then, where he promptly curls up and goes to sleep all day. I don't let him in the bedroom.