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ThatMauveSquid · 2024-09-18T00:29:24+00:00

My baby goes to a council run/owned nursery. I want to go out for dinner next week two nights on the go - with a friend. However baby will need looking after. Everyone says to ask the nursery staff, which I'm 100% comfortable with them looking after the baby, but it's a council run nursery and I don't think they would be allowed to? It would be so ideal if one of the workers I already know could do it :/

Ohiwish12 · 18/09/2024 01:54

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:45

Of course they can say no. What on earth makes you think they would be forced to look after children after work? Local councils, as far as I am aware, do not force employees to do o.o.h. work with no right of refusal, we aren't quite living under a communist regime yet...

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I meant I don't think the council run nursery owners can say no to staff who may choose to do babysitting in their own time! Not that staff can't say no to a babysitting request! 🙄 At no point did I state that employees would be forced to do o.o.h work...

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:53

OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 18/09/2024 01:52

What a rude response.

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Don't need women being judgemental on this board.

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:52

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:49

Says much about morals

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Or fuck it because col?

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What a rude response.

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I have a very happy life thank you. One that didn't invole putting my selfish needs above those of my children.

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:50

Poopdetective · 18/09/2024 01:48

My kiddo has been in 2 nurseries, one had a strict ‘no babysitting’ policy, the other is fine with it.

The issue is that some nurseries believe that their insurance might be claimed upon if an issue arose during babysitting, which is possible from a legal perspective (although not straight forward)

Interesting how the nursery insurance can be claimed upon?

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ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:49

Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:43

Yes, I was happy to leave my child with someone who knew him, and who my child knew, meaning that it was a stress free experience for all…so yes, it was marvellous actually!

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Says much about morals

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MumChp · 18/09/2024 01:49

It wasn't allowed for our nursery staff to provide childcare out the setting but you can ask.

Poopdetective · 18/09/2024 01:48

My kiddo has been in 2 nurseries, one had a strict ‘no babysitting’ policy, the other is fine with it.

The issue is that some nurseries believe that their insurance might be claimed upon if an issue arose during babysitting, which is possible from a legal perspective (although not straight forward)

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:47

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:33

FYI it's an overseas friend who I really want to see. They don't feel comfortable being in a taxi but have a hotel very close to me. I'm working so able to see them briefly during the day but going out for dinner would be ideal. They could come to mine but I haven't been out for so long!

That's life with kids. You want to go out 2 nights on the trot. You don't have childcare, so you cannot go out. Your friend can come to you, though.
Life with kids means few opportunities to live your own 'best life'

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:45

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 01:40

How is asking someone going to be a mistake? It’s really either a yes or a no

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I just feel ashamed or something. What if I get told of?

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ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 01:45

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:42

Well then, both parties are walking on very thin ice.
But if she is happy to beak the rules of her employment and you are happy to leave your child with a dishonest person, then hey, that's marvellous

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Everything alright there?

Most people are happy to have nursery staff that they’re already familiar with, as frequent/infrequent baby sitters. No one’s forcing anyone to do anything

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:45

Ohiwish12 · 18/09/2024 01:32

You haven't asked them yet? Maybe try asking them if there is any policy on staff doing babysitting out of their hours. I don't think they can say no technically unless council have put it in their staff contract that they can't do babysitting for children in their care.

But don't presume - ask first!

Of course they can say no. What on earth makes you think they would be forced to look after children after work? Local councils, as far as I am aware, do not force employees to do o.o.h. work with no right of refusal, we aren't quite living under a communist regime yet...

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:45

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:42

Well then, both parties are walking on very thin ice.
But if she is happy to beak the rules of her employment and you are happy to leave your child with a dishonest person, then hey, that's marvellous

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Lol omfg

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Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:43

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:42

Well then, both parties are walking on very thin ice.
But if she is happy to beak the rules of her employment and you are happy to leave your child with a dishonest person, then hey, that's marvellous

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Yes, I was happy to leave my child with someone who knew him, and who my child knew, meaning that it was a stress free experience for all…so yes, it was marvellous actually!

Ohiwish12 · 18/09/2024 01:43

Honestly just ask them !

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Youmwarayoum · 18/09/2024 01:31

They probably aren’t allowed. But they might be happy to do it quietly. I just asked my son’s key worker when we were standing away from everyone and she said officially the answer is no, but she’d be more than happy to do it.

Well then, both parties are walking on very thin ice.
But if she is happy to beak the rules of her employment and you are happy to leave your child with a dishonest person, then hey, that's marvellous

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 01:40

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:38

Because I don't want to make a mistake

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How is asking someone going to be a mistake? It’s really either a yes or a no

ThePrologue · 18/09/2024 01:39

That is crossing a professional boundary. Legally, they are covered to care for your child during nursery hours. They won't be after hours.
Those who have asked keyworkers to do this, or those who think this is ok, why?
What if something goes wrong, but you have to see that at nursery next day? What if you fall out?
Either find a neutral babysitter, or see friend at your house. The joys of parenthood....

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:39

Bearbookagainandagain · 18/09/2024 01:38

My point was to check the T&C's of the nursery. It's a very common clause.

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I don't remember that clause

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Bearbookagainandagain · 18/09/2024 01:38

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:37

My nursery is less than £5 an hour so I can't see it being beneficial for staff to do work for others.... It's already cheap!

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My point was to check the T&C's of the nursery. It's a very common clause.

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:38

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 01:37

How about you actually ask someone first?

Because I don't want to make a mistake

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ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 01:37

How about you actually ask someone first?