Nursery staff won't provide out of hours care?

OP, you're being really snarky for someone who is fretting this much about asking the staff at your own child's nursery a simple question!

Ask them - we used DT’s key workers as our weekly babysitters for years. No restrictions on them doing this. Worked really well as DT’s already knew them and we trusted them.

Our nursery said basically they didn't need to know as it was something between us and the nursery teacher out of hours. Definitely check with the nursery to be sure though.

It’s everything to do with the nursery if it’s a contractural breach
I’m sure it happens discreetly but most nursery don’t allow it. Multitude of reason eg poach staff fir nanny role, accusations of favouritism, what happens if something goes amiss, other parents complain, maintain boundaries etc

This makes zero sense. You’d definitely have to pay them (or anyone) more than £5 an hour to babysit!!! I pay our babysitter (neighbours daughter) £15 an hour!

Them babysitting for you is nothing to do with nursery op. You’re offered them a little job one off that’s all. It’s zero to do with nursery and their pay check there.

We will be paying above minimum wage for the babysitting btw before anyone asks

Can't see what the problem is. My child's key worker is going to babysit for us next week. There's nothing against it in contract, I asked openly and there was no need for secrecy. Various ladies at the nursery offered to help. My colleague also does this with her son in Scotland and gave me the idea.

We live in a rural area in a non expensive part of the country though, maybe elsewhere its different.

Yup. That about cover it. No head tilting or aww hun all us ladies together on mn. Rightly so.

I used to be a nursery nurse and frequently babysat. I was amazing at it. My view was that it was time to do with what I liked and if they paid me a livable wage I wouldn't have needed to.

It’s obvious why nurseries have rules like this. You could try asking one of the staff on the fly and you might get lucky but if it’s in their contracts they’re unlikely to flout that. Use childcare.co.uk - it’s brilliant you’ll find lots of experienced childminders on their. I’ve got a manager from another nursery to the one I’m my daughter attends who now comes regularly to us in evenings. Ask to see their DBS and CB and ID - I think you should easily be able to sense of who is decent.

I’m a Nominated individual of a group of nurseries and we have policies saying no out of hours babysitting. This is mostly due to our liability should anything happen to the child or employee.

also if there are any disagreements about payments or behaviour etc.

we have had staff take annual leave in order to babysit for families of three or more without letting us know.

I think it does happen without the nursery manager knowing but we really wouldn’t support it.

Our nursery had a list of staff who did babysitting , I just called the office

Some people are too immature to be parents. Grow up and ask the nursery directly. No one here knows their policy.

You are going to have a hard time as your child gets older if you can't ask a question because you're worried about being "told off". Gosh, I feel for your poor child.

Hmmmm.......

You're coming across as quite difficult here.

You're complaining about being judged, but you've posted in AIBU. The whole point of this forum is asking for judgements on your actions. If you just want to know about child care, there's a whole other area dedicated to that. Also, being worried you might get told off is rather rich when you're happy to tell other posters they have sad lives.

Could you just ask them if they know of any local babysitters/is there anyone they can recommend to you?

If it's something they do then they'll volunteer it. Otherwise you might get contact details for someone else for future.

It was a very common clause when my eldest DS started nursery 30 odd years ago!

It goes.....first kid goes to nursery, all is fine. Second kid is on the way and ma and pa do the maths and realise that a nanny is cheaper than two kids in nursery and because one of the nursery nurses already knows the kids and babysits for them on the side, they offer her the job. So babysitting between nursery workers and service users meant that if they owners got wind, the parents care contract would be terminated and it counts as gross misconduct with the nursery worker so they lose their job with no notice.

6 kids here and this has been in every nursery contract since, so I would assume that this is the case now.

So you would be risking her job and your kids nursery place.

You are posting on MumsNet.

Of course you are going to be judged. Haven’t you read any other threads here?

Literally….

Their employment contract is their business, not mine. They are free to say no, and I’m not going to judge anyone who gets paid peanuts doing extra work on the side.

The morals of an employee happy to beak their contract of employment are questionable

Says the woman claiming others have a sad life. Pot kettle black....

Ensuring my child is safe and comfortable and with someone we both trust is a lot more important to me than what you very strangely call morals.

And this is funny how?