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Nursery staff won't provide out of hours care?

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ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:29

My baby goes to a council run/owned nursery. I want to go out for dinner next week two nights on the go - with a friend. However baby will need looking after.

Everyone says to ask the nursery staff, which I'm 100% comfortable with them looking after the baby, but it's a council run nursery and I don't think they would be allowed to?

It would be so ideal if one of the workers I already know could do it :/

OP posts:
Maria1979 · 18/09/2024 08:16

Just ask them if anyone would be interested babysitting DC x date from x to x for x£/ hour. They will either tell you yes or no. And they might say would love to but can't because there is a policy against it. Not your responsability, you are just asking, for them to decide.

Just a question : you do know that you should pay more than 5£ / hour though ? The going rate is 10-15/ hour...

mindutopia · 18/09/2024 08:15

Just ask the manager if they can connect you with any staff who do babysitting on the side. We used a private nursery, but that’s what I did and she connected me with two staff who did. One of them became our long term babysitter until we moved away. If you go through the manager, then it’s all above board.

justasking111 · 18/09/2024 08:14

Our extended family have quietly used two girls for a few years, they've done weekends and the odd evening. But they're not supposed to apparently.

Elphamouche · 18/09/2024 08:13

You need to sort yourself out and ask. Asking wouldn’t get anyone in trouble. My sister used to babysit all the time for her key children.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 18/09/2024 08:10

Babysitting pay would be more than nursery

Musiclover234 · 18/09/2024 08:08

Ahh it’s a shame this is no longer allowed 20 odd years ago i did this ( management had no issues and staff were happy to) and the parents were great and paid well (better than my nursery rate of £5 an hour!) Never had any issues and the money was much needed.

Georgie743 · 18/09/2024 08:06

sorrynotathome · 18/09/2024 07:53

No one is “tearing her down” for wanting a night out. Just wondering why she can’t ask a very simple question of people she sees every day!

a couple of posts have mentioned that's just 'being a parent' as if life should stop once you're a mother.

totally agree, OP can just ask!

Luio · 18/09/2024 08:05

Just ask the person who you want to do the babysitting and they will say yes or no. It isn’t a big deal at all, and there is no harm in asking.

User364837 · 18/09/2024 07:53

Wimwims · 18/09/2024 07:30

OP are you expecting to pay £5 per hour for babysitting?

And yes this obviously, not sure why you mentioned the hourly rate OP as the babysitting would be totally separate and you’d definitely need to pay more than that

ButterAsADip · 18/09/2024 07:53

Or if you REALLY can’t bring yourself to outright ask if they would babysit, ask for babysitter recommendations. If they are willing and able, they’ll recommend themselves.

sorrynotathome · 18/09/2024 07:53

Georgie743 · 18/09/2024 07:48

Wowsers, a couple of very uptight posters on here. So sad to see a few women happy to tear others down for daring to want to have dinner out with a friend whilst also being a mother.

for what it's worth when my DC was at childcare (5 years ago) it was very normal and common for staff to do out of hours babysitting for cash. It was a private agreement between the parents and the employees as individuals, not as employees of the childcare company. Almost everyone I know - all different childcare companies - used childcare workers for occasional evening babysitters. Not everyone is lucky enough to have healthy, willing, local and available parents nearby to babysit. A childcare worker who knows your child and has qualifications in childcare and first aid seems an ideal babysitter to me!

No one is “tearing her down” for wanting a night out. Just wondering why she can’t ask a very simple question of people she sees every day!

comedycentral · 18/09/2024 07:52

Maray1967 · 18/09/2024 06:52

This.

This is like asking the John Lewis carpet fitters whether you can hire them privately to refit another carpet after decorating. They are not allowed to pick up work like this - but many do, and it’s very helpful to the customer!

Our nursery set recommended pay rates for babysitting - there was no problem at all - but that was 10-20 years ago. Having your child’s key worker babysit is ideal. They could easily settle him if he woke up - unlike his grandparents…

This! Our bathroom fitter from B&Q is now the person we go to for plumbing and maintenance as he also offers freelance work.

ButterAsADip · 18/09/2024 07:52

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:34

I wouldn't want to get them into trouble :/

Just ask or look in your contract. It will be there. I’ve used 4 nurseries and they’ve all been different. Some can some can’t. Just ask.

User364837 · 18/09/2024 07:52

people are being weird about this
just ask quietly if anyone does babysitting on the side.
you’re not employing them as the nursery worker just as someone your child knows who does babysitting in addition to their day job.
it’s not really to do with the nursery.

comedycentral · 18/09/2024 07:51

When I worked in a nursery, many moons ago, lots of our staff, including myself did local babysitting too. It was separate to the nursery and not just for nursery children, usually advertised locally and lots of word of mouth recommendations. Lots of nursery staff are apprentice level or on a low wage so babysitting is a useful top up.

Georgie743 · 18/09/2024 07:48

Wowsers, a couple of very uptight posters on here. So sad to see a few women happy to tear others down for daring to want to have dinner out with a friend whilst also being a mother.

for what it's worth when my DC was at childcare (5 years ago) it was very normal and common for staff to do out of hours babysitting for cash. It was a private agreement between the parents and the employees as individuals, not as employees of the childcare company. Almost everyone I know - all different childcare companies - used childcare workers for occasional evening babysitters. Not everyone is lucky enough to have healthy, willing, local and available parents nearby to babysit. A childcare worker who knows your child and has qualifications in childcare and first aid seems an ideal babysitter to me!

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 18/09/2024 07:46

Why not word it as asking for a recommendation? Ask the child's keyworker , I'm looking for a babysitter do you know anyone who you would recommend? Someone other parents use regularly or someone who works here? That way if she says oh we're not allowed to babysit for parents, you say oh I'm so sorry I didn't realise and I was just looking for any recommendation, and if she says well actually I'd do it, great.
No one upset either way

SummerFade · 18/09/2024 07:43

Just because something is written in a contract, doesn’t mean it’s enforceable.

I doubt the council can do much about preventing their staff from doing childcare after hours as they don’t own an employee 24/7 and presumably the employee is being paid somewhere around minimum wage?

@ThatMauveSquid As others have said, quietly ask the employee when she’s out of earshot of other staff.

DannSindWirHelden · 18/09/2024 07:40

Why on earth is your friend scared to use a taxi? Can you go and pick her up if it's so nearby (taking baby with you)

Anothernamechane · 18/09/2024 07:38

So you’d like someone from the nursery to babysit, but you haven’t asked, don’t want to ask and haven’t checked the T&Cs to see if this isn’t allowed.

in the nicest way possible, are you looking for advice from this thread?

Pistachiochiochio · 18/09/2024 07:33

ThatMauveSquid · 18/09/2024 01:33

FYI it's an overseas friend who I really want to see. They don't feel comfortable being in a taxi but have a hotel very close to me. I'm working so able to see them briefly during the day but going out for dinner would be ideal. They could come to mine but I haven't been out for so long!

They're traveling from overseas but don't feel comfortable in a taxi?

Go out for dinner if you prefer (and don't ask the policy on staff covering our of hours care, ask the person you'd love to babysitting quietly if she knows anyone who would babysit on X date).

Wimwims · 18/09/2024 07:30

OP are you expecting to pay £5 per hour for babysitting?

Ttcagainnow · 18/09/2024 07:28

Around here, the nurseries that don't allow their staff to babysit have the rules because of nanny poaching. It happens more than you'd think! I think just ask them, you may be surprised and they may be fine with it.

Clearinguptheclutter · 18/09/2024 07:22

I’ve asked nursery people to help babysit before on occasion. I know lots of people who had nursery staff over to help babysit on a regular basis!
I think they are usually so badly paid they are all grateful for some extra cash
poaching them to work as Nannies wouldn’t really work round here- no one has enough income for that

LostittoBostik · 18/09/2024 07:19

Don't call it "out of hours care"

Just ask if any of them also do some babysitting.

The language matters. Anyone from teens up can babysit. It makes it clear you're not asking them to work as a nursery worker, which comes with legal implications

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