Nursery staff won't provide out of hours care?

At our last nursery, staff weren't allowed to babysit. At this one, they are, and enjoy it for the extra cash. If there's a parents WA group ask if they're allowed to

You're worrying about a complete non issue? X

You haven't even asked yet!

I don't know how people like this get through the day.

Yes, there are many like that. But there are also many who are like my dad when I was a baby - in the forces, or my FIL - working 200 miles away. Or they work night shifts or are in the police with unpredictable finishing hours. Or they’re no longer involved.

Just ask. They'll either say no, not allowed, or they'll let you know who does it. Every nursery I've used has allowed staff to babysit. You'll pay a lot more than £5 an hour though!

My friend worked in a private nursery and did quite a bit of babysitting as it was allowed. I worked in a nursery school,and it wasn’t. We had a notice board but wouldn’t accept any adverts that advertised childminding or babysitting. It was something to do with it looked as if we were recommending them.

Flipping heck - 7 pages for this? OP just ask them - worst they can say is no!

How would you make a mistake if you just asked? They can say "No, sorry, we're not permitted to by the Council's employment terms" or whatever. Just ask!!!

But if you really can't find a baby sitter, why not have your friend to your house, but get a really nice restaurant take away? There are lots of quite "fine dining" places that will do deliveries. I know it's not going out out, but it would be a lovely treat!

I think they meant they can't tell them they at not allowed, rather than they are legally obligated to baby sit .

That’s my point. People mention the children’s dad to pry and see what the situation is. It’ll either be that the OP is a single parent or the dad will be at work so can’t look after their child. People’s favourite is when the dad is occupied with something else but as I said, that’s literally no one’s business.

No one ever says that to genuinely be helpful

Exactly. People know exactly what they’re doing

Exactly. There's a thread running right now where the OPs DH is complaining about how she treats him like a mug and takes advantage because she goes away overnight a couple of times a year and he has to look after his own DC while she's gone.

OP are you the nursery worker? Have you been asked?

Why would you get in trouble for asking a question? You literally just approach them and ask if they have a policy on babysitting out of hours and if not could you speak to key worker about it? Even ask if they have any recommendations. All they can say is yes we allow it or no we don't. How do some people get by in life being so wet.

This is a lot of drama. No one ever got in trouble for asking. If th epolicy is no, they'll tell you that - and different nurseries have different policies. Ours was fine with it, but we had to sign a form saying we were hiring the person completely independently and would have no recourse to the nursery. Others have different.

At our school, teachers cannot be hired as tutors for children at our school. But as a rule, if you ask the teachers, they will give you names of teachers at other schools and I assume our teachers' names are provided to other students.

it's really no big deal. OP, nicely, you need to toughen up.

It's not really backhanded, there seem to be a lot of useless men out there who couldn't possibly "babysit" their own kids. Because of their "hobby". Especially on MN.

I used to do it as well. Babysitting outside hours isn't poaching.

Employers shouldn't prevent their staff from having side hustles or earning money outside hours if it isn't conflicting with their work (eg having two WFH jobs at the same time :) )

It seems quite common and acceptable where I live, I often see people advertising in our local parents' FB group saying they work in local nurseries and are looking for extra babysitting work.

why would you get told off? I think all nurserys have a policy, whether it's a 'no way' or 'you can do what you want, off our premises it's nothing to do with us'. Ours had a suggested rate of pay and kept a log of it but made it clear it was a private arrangement and they had no responsibility for it. The staffs job is childcare and they have all the dbs and first aid stuff in place already, of course it's something they might want to do in their evenings to earn some extra cash.

Just say 'hello, I need a babysitter on sunday and my friend said they use staff from their nursery, is that something any of your staff offer?' - they'll either say 'yes here's the information' or 'no they're not allowed'.

Well to be fair there seems to be a lot of father's that 'can't possibly' look after their kid because of some nonsense reason.

Anyway sorry if my question caused offence, that wasn't my intention.

Well it’s either that or a complete failure to engage the brain.

Why on earth would anyone be asking about babysitters if the baby’s dad can do the childcare?

Polite response - you are being a little ridiculous here. "Told off"?!

Ask a member of staff you like, she can know/choose what she wants to do and can answer accordingly.

If she shouldn't but does, that's on her - she's an adult and can make that decision. Literally not your responsibility.

Lol. Rather a lot of assumptions there.

It’s obviously not a reasonable question. It’s obvious the dad isn’t an option and that isn’t any of your business. You asked because you wanted to get the OP to spell out her status as a single mum so could sit smugly at home judging her.

Do you know , maybe the OP hadn’t thought of asking the child’s father. Good shout .

If the child’s father could look after them, do you think the OP would be on here asking whether nursery staff are able to carry out babysitting? Genuine question

How is it a 'backhanded comment'? It's a perfectly reasonable question.